Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Boise Idaho 831 PM MDT Friday may 24 2013 Discussion...asymmetric upper low over Washington was shifting north after rotating a lobe cyclonically across our northern zones earlier today. A new lobe was moving eastward across Oregon this evening and it also is prognosticated across our northern zones overnight and Saturday morning with another chance of showers. Our southern and eastern zones will stay dry. A much stronger lobe will come into our Oregon zones Sunday and then into our northern Idaho zones Sunday night/Monday with more showers...and general troughing and chance of showers will continue into at least the middle of next week. In the short term...current forecast has highest probability of precipitation Sunday afternoon but latest models from 18z say Sunday night will be at least as wet. We await 00z models for new information beyond Sunday. No updates for now. && Aviation...VFR with areas of high and middle level clouds. Surface winds...west to northwest around 10 kts. Winds aloft...southwest up to 20 kts at 10k feet mean sea level. Weekend outlook...VFR Saturday. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms developing Saturday afternoon over the higher terrain of eastern Oregon and the west central Idaho mountains...spreading over most of southeast Oregon and southwest Idaho by Sunday afternoon. Snow levels 7500-8500 feet mean sea level rising to 8000-9000 feet mean sea level Sunday afternoon. && Previous discussion... short term...tonight through Sunday...the Memorial Day weekend will start off dry as the upper low that has been parked over Washington state lifts into Canada. Showers and isolated thunderstorms over east-central Oregon and SW Idaho this afternoon will dissipate by sunset. Air mass modifies into Saturday on strengthening SW flow. Only a slight chance of showers or thunderstorms over mountains on Saturday as large scale forcing is absent so development is dependent on afternoon instability which is marginal. Clouds increase Sunday ahead of a short wave trough moving into the Pacific northwest. There are some differences on timing the feature. It becomes negatively tilted as it moves inland which will likely slow it down which would follow the GFS and European model (ecmwf) solutions. Height falls and increased dynamical forcing will favor shower and thunderstorm development over southeast Oregon and much of SW Idaho by late Sunday afternoon. Cloud cover could cap development in the Snake River Valley of Idaho so have only slight chance there. Raised the chance of precipitation elsewhere across southeast Oregon and mountains of SW Idaho for Sunday afternoon where confidence is higher. More clouds and some cooling aloft will take 3-7f degrees off of high temperatures from Saturday to Sunday. Long term...Sunday night through Friday...the Pacific northwest remains under a broad upper trough through the extended period. Monday looks to be the driest and warmest day next week as region will be between low pressure systems. Increased moisture associated with the next upper trough on Tuesday will bring precipitation across the entire area. At the moment...this looks like the best day for widespread precipitation. Latest model guidance is trending this system further north across the forecast area Tuesday. Models are not in total agreement with this idea as a few GFS ensemble members and the 12z European model (ecmwf) continue to show the trough closing over central Nevada as it moves east. However...more solutions are trending towards the GFS open wave across the forecast area and thus have trended the forecast in this direction. This system lingers over the region through Wednesday and is followed quickly by another system Thursday/Friday. These systems will continue the chance of showers and thunderstorms through Friday. Temperatures will remain below normal throughout the extended period. && Boi watches/warnings/advisories... Idaho...none. Or...none. && $$ Weather.Gov/Boise Discussion...lc aviation.....Jt previous short term...dg previous long term....js/wh