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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 
1052 am CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Update... 
issued at 1049 am CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Late morning update was to go dry through late afternoon in southeast ND into 
west-central Minnesota. Temperatures somewhat of an issue and lowered a bit especially northern 
zones where low 60s in Langdon-Cando may be all that can be done. 
Kept high probability of precipitation far northern forecast area in NE ND/northwest Minnesota with showers 
moving through. Still thinking lower 80s or so far southeast ND...but 
depends on amount of sun. Latest hrrr/rap all indicate main warm 
front and convection developing in northern South Dakota into central Minnesota 22z-00z 
period and then maybe lifting north into southeast ND. 


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Short term...(today through sunday) 
issued at 326 am CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Forecast challenge through the short term will continue to be precipitation 
chances as well as severe storm and heavy rain potential. Models 
in fair agreement with main features however subtle differences 
exist with surface low/boundary positions today. 


Arc of weakening convection lifting NE through forecast area at 30kts will 
continue to propagate NE through the morning and into early 
afternoon. Will attempt to adjust/time probability of precipitation accordingly. 


Temperatures will be tricky and dependent on degree of cloud cover 
and how far north warm front gets. With warm column any breaks 
will really boost temperatures. 


Later today and into tonight. Surface inverted trough to sharpen 
across forecast area providing good source of low level convergence. Tough to 
determine any specific short wave however region comes under 
entrance region of modest jet streak which will aid in upper 
support. Models differ on location of surface low which will ride 
northward along trough as well as position of warm frontal 
boundary. Models indicating good surface moisture flux with 60 
dewpoints spreading northward through most of forecast area. Precipitable water 
values increase to around 1.5 by evening. Greatest instability and 
cape across south half of forecast area and looks to be the favored location 
for severe potential. Some capping may initially delay convective 
initiation during the afternoon. Heavy rain potential there but with 
differences in surface low position to enhance low level 
convergence not as clear cut. 


Inverted trough to drift east Sunday which will put heavier rain 
threat into Minnesota. Temperatures to be quite a bit cooler on back side 
of inverted trough. 


Long term...(sunday night through friday) 
issued at 326 am CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Cut off low takes over and drifts across east South Dakota into S Minnesota to start work 
week for continued moderate rain potential and cooler temperatures. 


Tuesday-Friday...the upper low will slowly shift eastward from the 
central/northern plains into the Great Lakes during this period. The 
00z GFS/12z European model (ecmwf) begin to shift shower activity south and east on 
Wednesday...with the Gem slower in ending the precipitation. Will continue 
to mention probability of precipitation across the southeast through Wednesday night. Surface 
high pressure is expected to build across the area towards the end 
of the week as middle/upper level ridging develops across the plains. 
Below normal temperatures will moderate back to near normal by late next 
week. 


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Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Sunday morning) 
issued at 650 am CDT Sat may 18 2013 


With showers in the vicinity ceilings vary greatly. Ceilings generally bouncing 
between MVFR/VFR with mostly VFR ceilings. There is however some 
localized IFR ceilings in br but not limited to within rain band. 
Expect condition to persist through the morning as rain showers lift 
northward. Could see more VFR conditions this afternoon with thunderstorms and rain 
possible late afternoon. 




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Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... 
ND...none. 
Minnesota...none. 
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Update...Riddle 
short term...voelker 
long term...makowski/voelker 
aviation...voelker