Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen Minnesota 146 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Short term...(today and tonight) issued at 344 am CDT Sat may 25 2013...updated for 18z taf discussion. Initial shield of warm air advection showers that was depicted well on 310k isentropic surface on the NAM/GFS is fading away across western WI as this batch of forcing weakens and dives southeast. In its wake...we have warm air advection at 850 mb...but the deeper moisture has pushed east...so precipitation has cut off pretty quick. With the warm air advection and weak moisture transport...should be able to get some light showers/sprinkles across Minnesota this morning...but not much more than that. Best chance for rain today will be across southern Minnesota. Warm front now can be found across south central Nebraska into NE kan...with a strong low level jet overrunning it. This has generated an mesoscale convective system over eastern Nebraska this morning. Thunder starting to increase across Iowa as well as the low level jet has slowly worked east. Most of this thunderstorm activity will remain south of Minnesota through the day...but all hi-res models show some of this moisture from Iowa sneaking up into south central Minnesota through morning...where some high chance/likely probability of precipitation are continued through the morning hours. For the afternoon...precipitation looks to shut off...but we will be stuck with fairly broad cloud cover...with the only hope for some breaks across the NE mpx County Warning Area thanks to the influence of a dry surface high that will be splayed out across the Great Lakes. Given the cloud cover will be a cool day...with temperatures in south central Minnesota likely staying in the 50s thanks to better rain chances and thicker cloud cover. For tonight...all models show another round of convection riding along north of the warm front...kind of like what we have seen overnight to our southwest. Question becomes how far north does the activity make it. Consensus placement from the warm front places it by 12z Sunday morning from the Black Hills...down through Yankton...South Dakota and then down to the central Iowa/MO border. Once again...will see a low level jet overrunning this frontal feature...which should generate yet another mesoscale convective system. Given the fronts placement to our southwest...best chances for thunderstorms tonight will be south of the upper Minnesota river in SW Minnesota into SC Minnesota. For timing...favored highest probability of precipitation to after 6z...as convection should fire this evening over southeast sodak into NE Nebraska...then head toward SW/SC Minnesota. All of this activity would be elevated...so severe threat looks minimal...with the main impact being the potential for heavy rain...as we have seen this evening in Nebraska. Long term...(sunday through friday) issued at 344 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 The long term period continues to look increasingly wet and stormy. This is due to the region being sandwiched between a building upper high along the eastern Seaboard... while a very deep trough pushes into the western half of the United States. There should be a round of convection pass across southern Minnesota Sunday morning...very similar to what has been ongoing overnight across NE/IA. The storms to our south currently have been basically sub severe... but very efficient rain producers... with upwards of 1.75 inches of rain in three hours. This is the trend expected Sunday morning across southern Minnesota... especially the I-90 corridor. Thereafter... a significant diminishing trend in the precipitation for Sunday afternoon and evening with the nmm/arw WRF/S in agreement. Memorial Day is looking a little worse now with even the European model (ecmwf) driving a wave of convection across the forecast area during the day and evening. Just general thunder indicated on swody2 which seems reasonable with the main warm frontal boundary meandering from the Central Plains to the lower Ohio Valley. Again... the concern will be localized heavy rainfall. The deterministic runs would also suggest another round of convection for US late Monday night and Tuesday morning... especially across southern Minnesota. This repeating rounds of potential convection is disturbing with areas of southern and especially southeast Minnesota running well above normal on rainfall for the month of may. The threat for flash flooding will be on the increase. It was pointed out on Friday in the weathertalk from Dr Seely at the umn that since March 1st...(meteorological spring) it has been one of the wettest in history for many areas of Minnesota. Add this to the cips analogs for 5 days from now and one sees a very wet pattern across all of the region with 2 inches of rainfall exceeding 30 percent probability with even widespread 3 inches having a 10 percent probability. This is in addition to the rains Sunday through Tuesday. Not surprising then are the run totals from the GFS and European model (ecmwf) through next Friday which paint the landscape with 2 to 4 inches of rain... with 4 inches or more south of US. Digressing for a moment... one of the months/years that has shown up in the cips analogs recently is July 1993... with record flooding in this part of the country. A review from ncdc showed low pressure aloft over the western High Plains with a strong SW jet at 250 mb across our area. The Bermuda high had pushed into the southeast United States with organized 850 mb winds from the western Gulf of Mexico to the western Great Lakes. Hence... the flooding potential is a big concern for the week ahead as the pattern in the Summer of 1993 mimics our week ahead quite well. Finally... and just as important... will be the threat for severe weather next week as the warm front lifts north into our area beginning on Tuesday. Not too concern about severe on Sunday. The chance increases some on Monday (isolated)...especially if afternoon convection develops as deep layer shear rises. Then from Tuesday Onward there is severe potential each day. The cips analogs contain many severe reports for US for the middle of next week with severe probabilities from 15 to 30 percent for the entire forecast area using the top 8 analogs. A cold front may move across the forecast area from Friday into Saturday...diminishing the severe weather threat. && Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Sunday afternoon) issued at 100 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Remnants of mesoscale convective system which produced moderate to heavy amounts of precipitation over much of northern Iowa...and lighter amounts above far southern Minnesota continues to decrease in coverage and intensity as it treks into northern Illinois. Closer to home...large swath of strato-cumulus continues to blanket all of the taf region. Western half of this region dealing with MVFR...to low end MVFR ceilings...with VFR conditions elsewhere. Although infrared satellite confirming some redevelopment of lower ceilings over eastern sodak ..loss of heating by early this evening should give green light to short term loss of ceilings over kaxn...kstc...and krwf ..with redevelopment possible later this evening ahead of area of convection forming over central Dakotas after 03z. Nothing very substantial concerning forcing in respect to convection during the next 24 hours or so...save tonight over west central through south central Minnesota. With that said tempo groups will be the rule at most western taf locations with instability parameters indicating possible short term thunder at krwf. Light to MDT southeast flow will continue for much of the forecast period. VFR visibilities will be seen into Sunday afternoon ..minus short periods of MVFR associated with possible convection. VFR ceilings expected at all Airport locations after 15z. Kmsp... Confidence is not high for shower activity later this evening. Moderate Theta-E advection and very potent 250mb divergence Couplets after 06z...could generate a passing shower at kmsp. Much better bet concerns fairly drastic lowering of VFR to MVFR ceilings by 23z time period. Actually have a fairly large area of low MVFR ceilings over west central WI at this time advecting in this direction. Heating should elevate ceilings as they proceed east. Although current forecast depicts contuinuation of MVFR ceilings through 15z...there is a possibility of a short term break in the cloud cover mentioned above between 03z and 05z. After 15z MDT southeast flow and VFR ceilings and visibilities should be anticipated until end of period. Better chances for convective activity will be encountered by late Sunday night. && Mpx watches/warnings/advisories... Minnesota...none. WI...none. && $$ Short term...mpg long term...rah aviation...ajz