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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen Minnesota 
548 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 415 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


For the first time in what seems like quite some time we can see 
moonlight outside our back door this morning here at the National Weather Service office 
in Chanhassen. The surface low that brought 6-7 consecutive days of 
measurable rainfall and 4 to 5 inches in many locations across the 
forecast area is now over the Great Lakes and we are gaining about 1 
mb per hour at the surface early this morning. Northeast flow and 
much drier weather is expected today and tonight. The dry and breezy 
northeast low level flow today will make it feel even cooler than 
the already below normal temperatures in the forecast today. With 
little sensible weather to speak of in the short term...one of the 
bigger challenges today is to determine just how dry the dewpoints 
and humidity will get this afternoon. The saturated ground will 
certain aid in providing extra boundary layer moisture. 
Nonetheless...mixing down the air between 900-800 mb gives US a very 
dry afternoon. The NAM forecast soundings for today suggests we can 
mix as high as 830 mb...while the rap...sref...and GFS mix to 850 
mb...870 mb...and 875 mb respectively. There should be virtually 
cloud free skies today. 


The cool and dry day today will set the stage for a chilly night 
tonight. No major change to the temperature forecast with lower 40s 
west and low to middle 30s east across the forecast area for lows 
tonight. The Twin Cities metropolitan should also stay in the lower 40s 
tonight. We kept the mention of frost in far eastern Minnesota and west 
central WI. In fact...expected temperatures are cold enough in 
portions of WI to warrant a frost advisory late tonight. 


Long term...(friday through wednesday) 
issued at 415 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


The long term begins with a large high pressure system over the 
western Great Lakes region. Much of Friday will be dry...with the 
exception of the far west where strong low level Theta-E advection 
will commence in the afternoon on the back side of the high. This 
coupled with a short wave and middle level frontogenesis moving east 
from the northern plains will drive showers and isolated 
thunderstorms into the far west by late afternoon...with the 
activity passing across the forecast area Friday night and early Saturday. 
Elevated instability is minimal Friday night and severe weather is 
not expected. The best low level moisture transport is aimed from 
the Central Plains into Iowa Friday night with just about all model 
solutions pointing to the highest quantitative precipitation forecast staying south of Minnesota. 


In the wake of the short wave on Saturday...we are beginning to see 
the NAM and sref taking on more of what the European model (ecmwf) has been showing 
for 3 days now...and that is a more amplified flow aloft. This is 
very evident looking at three runs of the European model (ecmwf) spaced 24 hours 
apart. Deeper upper lows along both coast with more ridging in the 
center of the country. With time...this builds the surface high 
pressure system over the Great Lakes back west across the forecast area along 
with drier air. Using the European model (ecmwf) outright would place dry weather 
over all but our far western and southern counties in Minnesota for 
Sunday and Monday. Going against the grain however are the GFS and 
Gem. Both are Adamant on driving wave after wave aloft through the 
region both days with convective clusters. Model run quantitative precipitation forecast is in the 
several inch range across parts of the Minnesota County Warning Area. On the other hand... 
the European model (ecmwf) only has a tenth to a half inch from northeast to 
southwest across our area respectively from Friday through 
Monday. Hence...the weekend/Holiday may turn out better than the 
forecast indicates if the European model (ecmwf) is more correct. Probability of precipitation are more aligned 
now with very low chances in WI with higher chances near the 
western and southern border. 


Although the rain chances are diminishing after Saturday 
morning...there is good consensus that abundant low level moisture 
will cover the area with a warm front remaining south of US. This 
will likely yield plenty of cloud cover with high temperatures 
remaining in the 60s Saturday and Sunday with upper 60s to lower 
70s on Sunday. Showers and thunderstorms should become more common 
over the region from Tuesday Onward as the trough in the west 
moves east. This will lift the low pressure system and warm front 
into out area. This will also increase our threat for severe 
weather. 


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Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Friday morning) 
issued at 544 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


No major changes to previous forecast. Winds will remain fairly 
steady out of the east-northeast and slowly veer to the southeast 
with time tonight. 


Kmsp... 


VFR expected. Predominantly a northeast wind today. 


/Outlook for kmsp/ 


Friday night...VFR. Chance of showers. Southeast wind 5 to 15 knots. 
Saturday...brief MVFR ceilings possible with a chance of 
shra/tsra. Southeast wind 10 to 20 knots. 
Saturday night...MVFR ceilings and visibilities possible with a 
chance of shra/tsra. Southeast wind 10 to 20 knots. 
Sunday...MVFR ceilings and visibilities possible with a chance of 
shra/tsra...brief IFR conditions possible. Southeast wind 10 to 20 
knots. 


&& 


Mpx watches/warnings/advisories... 
Minnesota...none. 
WI...frost advisory from midnight tonight to 7 am CDT Friday for 
wiz014>016-025-027-028. 


&& 


$$ 


Short term...clf 
long term...rah 
aviation...clf