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Posted by: Zachary Labe, 9:21 PM GMT on January 07, 2009 +1
Thoughts on January 9-10 storm...
Lack of confidence for forecast, therefore no discussion on storm. I believe that much of central Pennsylvania will be dry slotted and then as precipitation moves in, some of it will mix. Accumulations will be lucky to get to 4inches I think at this point. I am not one to give up on a storm, but I have had a bad feeling about this storm all week, just see my posts from a few days ago. I think these warnings may bust badly. I-80 corridor and northward is place to be as frontogensis places heavy snow band at that location. A sharp cutoff can be expected to the south. Then as precipitation moves in due north of low, mixing will take place. What we need to setup is a good initial band across central Pennsylvania as indicated by some earlier model runs on the 700mb RH moisture charts. Whether that will happen or not is a guestion. I have a feeling some areas in York and Lancaster will really get shafted. In any case I hope I am wrong, but this is how I see things this evening. And I would rather feel good to know that I am firm with my gut than stick with the NWS forecast of warning criteria snowfall just because they have a winter storm warning.

Radar...
Radar...

Warnings...
Warnings...

NAO...
NAO...

This is my current rain/snow line...
This is my experimental snow/mix/rain lines. These lines may adjust up to 25miles north or south, but they are my best estimation at this current time. This precipitation line is for the height of the storm, some initial snowfall to south of the lines is expected.

My rain/sleet line is... Deep Valley (Greene County) - Morgantown, WV - Frostburg, MD - Frederick, MD - Manchester, MD - Delta (York County) - Oxford (Chester County) - Wilmington, DE

My sleet/snow line is... Pittsburgh (Alleghany County) - Latrobe (Westmoreland County) - Johnstown (Cambria County) - Bedford (Bedford County) - Shippensburg (Cumberland County) - Middletown (Dauphin County) - Ephrata (Lancaster County) - Quakertown (Bucks County)

These are overall precipitation types. Precipitation types can wander several miles on either side of the lines.

Storm Reports...
None.

Storm Impacts...
1. Significant, widespread snowstorm.
2. Largest snowstorm for Pennsylvania for the winter season.
3. Mixing will cut down on accumulations for border counties.
4. Snow ratios near 13:1, 15:1.
5. Quick moving system.

Snow Map...

*Note the southern part of the 5-9inch will more likely be 4-8inches.

Selected City Accumulations for the Northeast...
Hagerstown, MD- 1-3inches of light snow. Freezing rain up to .1inches.
Baltimore, MD- Light snow/sleet then rain. C-1inch of snow.
Washington, DC- Trace of light snow/sleet then rain.
Wilmington, DE- Light snow then rain. 1-3inches of snow.
Dover, DE- Trace of light snow then rain.
Cape May, NJ- Rain up to .5inches.
Trenton, NJ- 2-4inches of snow then sleet and rain.
New York City, NY- Moderate snow mixing with sleet and rain. 3-5inches of snow possible.
Poughkeepsie, NY- Heavy snow likely. 6-10inches of snow.
Binghamton, NY- Moderate to heavy snow likely. 5-10inches of snow.
Albany, NY- Moderate snow. Snow accumulations 4-8inches.
Hartford, CT- Heavy snow likely. 6-11inches of snow possible.
Concord, NH- 3-5inches of light snow.
Providence, RI- Heavy snow with some sleet. 5-9inches of snow.
Worcester, MA- Heavy snow likely with 6-10inches.
Boston, MA- Heavy snow. 6-10inches of snow likely.
Nantucket, MA- Moderate snow with some sleet. 3-5inches of snow.
Hyannis, MA- Moderate snow with 3-7inches.
Portland, ME- Light snow. 2-4inches.
Bangor, ME- Light snow. C-1inch of snow.
"Subject to Change"

Model Analysis
After one of the most frusturating groups of model runs, we are now finally coming to a consensus. Model blend for my forecast consists of NAM/GFS/GGEM blend with EURO only for idea of mixing farther north. Models took a while to come on a solution as the EURO had a much more amplified runs and took the low well to the north. Meanwhile the GFS was the southern outlier along with the UKMET and showed the low crossing through central Virginia. As we got closer to the event, the NAM provided a middle ground solution and held ever side consistent with it generally trending only a bit to the south. The new EURO has now come around to a NAM track with similar temperature profiles. Track of 850 vortex low seems pretty consistent for all of the models tracking across central Pennsylvania between I-80 and the turnpike. This will cause mixes to occur generally to the south of the turnpike as a sliver of warm air sits at around 900-950mb. Timing is a major issue with the models as the NAM seems to be very slow with the system and even the latest 18z NAM does not show bulk of precipitation until the 24hour mark. Looking at the GGEM model it currently is the farther north, tracking the low across the Turnpike and bringing the H85 0C line as far north as just south of I-80. But during short term predictions I do not advise using the GGEM as the resolution is lower. The Canadian RGEM is a better high resolution model and takes the system very similar to the NAM with similar temperature profiles. The GFS finall came around to a slightly farther north solution taking the low just south of the Mason-Dixon line and that seems to be a good track. Personally I think the GFS has the best hold on this storm with temperature profiles, track, and QPF. Here is the simulated radar from the HIRES NMM for the height of the system...

As you can see it is pretty widespread with precipitation. Here are the final QPF totals for the GFS...

This a relatively sharp gradient, so that will need to be monitored in the form on Nowcasts.

After the storm...
Good Wednesday afternoon!!! This is the only section I will update for today, but there is a lot to talk about. So far I am very pleased with how my winter outlook is unfolding. Cold temperatures have dominated the winter so far along with snowfall +-1-2inches of normal, which is my call. It does appear we are entering what I believe to be the main theme of January. Who is ready to board the clipper express? Extreme cold air has been bottled up in Alaska for quite a while part in response to an unfavorable polar vortex over the region. A shift in this vortex will occur. This vortex is part reason why storm tracks have been through the Great Lakes and Ohio Valley. Lets first look at the teleconnections... The NAO is sharply negative currently with a negative PNA. The negative NAO is balancing out the unfavorable PNA resulting in near normal temperatures for the time period. Right now if we had less blocking and a positive NAO, I think we would be quite mild. The NAO is trending towards a positive state. Now in the past massive swings like this have been accompanied by major storms systems along the coast. In fact all major snowstorms on the east coast have showed a negative to positive trend in NAO. But for now models are speculative to anything of that occuring. 0z GGEM from Wednesday morning had a tightly wound cutoff low inland bombing out, but that scenario seems unlikely for next week. The AO index is positive currently and will be trending sharply negative during the time period of this arctic blast. The PNA lastly is going to be positive through this time period. The EPO and PNA being in favorable conditions along with the negative AO should balance out the effects of the positive NAO. Another major feature resulting in this highly cold period coming up is the dramatic shift of the MJO. Over much of December it was in phase 4 trending to phase 5, which favors more of a midwest and western US trough axis resulting in inland runners. Now finally we have moved into phase 6 and possibly into phase 7 which is ideal for an east coast trough axis. Something of concern is the La Nina that has developed quite impressively over the central Pacific with temperature anomalies near -1.1degree. Now there has been a few signs of warming waters very gradually surrounding the cold anomaly region. Also I have found from the past that La Ninas typically peak in early winter with a gradual decrease or otherwise known as warming of sea surface temperatures. All ENSO/SO climatic schemes are different and they cannot be put into judgement on further exact forecasts for future, but in this overall pattern the SO is the bust potential.

So now onto global models. They are in fair agreement for a severe arctic blast lasting from midweek next week through at least January 21, nearly a seven day period. H85s are near -20C with even a core of -30C across southern Canada. Surface temperatures likely resulting in negative numbers in some areas and single digits. While this seems extreme, it is all of the models showing this. EURO at times has been even more extreme showing polar vortex over the Great Lakes. This will result in likely a few lake effect snow outbreaks and many clippers. The latest 12z GFS from Wednesday afternoon makes this an evident idea with clippers moving in every few days bringing colder and colder air, snow ratios for some of these events may be near 30:1 across the north. The coldest temperatures look to be in the 10day mean with strong riding on east coast. Also another evident sign of cold air will be the positive anomalies across much of Alaska. Temperatures will be quite bitter for several days with gusty northwest winds under a times tight gradients. This will likely be the coldest period of the winter. Also I apologize for not issuing a January formal outlook, but it does seem like the month will be below normal for average snowfall for all across Pennsylvania. It has already started off very wintry and this is likely to continue. Stay warm all!

Please post storm reports in this blog from across the Northeast during the winter storm...
This blog is in progress. Check back soon...

"Here northeast of Harrisburg 2008-2009 winter statistics"
(Snow Stats)
Current Snow Cover- C-1.5inch of snow
Monthly Total- 2.00inches
Seasonal Total- 12.45inches
Winter Weather Advisories- 6
Winter Storm Warnings- 1
Ice Storm Warnings- 1
Blizzard Warnings- 0
Freezing Rain Advisories- 0
Winter Storm Watches- 3

(Temperature Stats)
Lowest High Temperature- 14degrees
Lowest Low Temperature- -3degrees
Wind Chill Advisories- 0
Wind Chill Warnings- 0

(Snow Storms Stats)
First Snow - October 29 - Trace
First Snow on Ground - November 18 - Coating
Lake Effect Snow - November 21/22 - 6.00inches
Synoptic Snow - December 16 - 3.5inches
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701. TheDawnAwakening 8:21 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
12z EURO showing a bomb according to the HPC final 12z discussion. I see potential too Blizzard and hope this is far enough east or west to give us all snow and a heavy snowstorm at that. For some reason the GFS has problems in this range.
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702. onoweather 8:22 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
TDA- which storm are you talking about today's or thursday's?
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703. Zachary Labe 8:23 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- All I would focus on right now is if there is even going to be a storm.
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704. PalmyraPunishment 8:26 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
any chance for blizzard conditions for us thursday, blizz?

looks like the axis of heaviest precip (as heavy as a clipper can produce, even with the high snow ratios) should find itself just north of harrisburg -- hopefully this doesnt change unless it comes slightly south.
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705. Zachary Labe 8:31 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- I am thinking a 2-4inch snow is very possible from turnpike on northward.
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706. onoweather 8:35 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
i'll go with your forecast state college thinks c-1, for middletown to reading, basically north of 22 for anything more than an inch.
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707. Zachary Labe 8:36 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
onoweather- That has not been updated since this morning. All of the models are now south of Mason-Dixon line with low so we should be good from what I see to see snow.
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708. PalmyraPunishment 8:38 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
timeline for this blizz, during the day, early evening, evening/overnight?
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709. Zachary Labe 8:39 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- Wednesday night slightly before midnight till Thursday morning.
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710. Zachary Labe 9:18 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Here just north of Harrisburg it has started to snow flurry.
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711. jthal57 9:37 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Blizzard-looking good for a couple of inches Wed. night/Thursday AM. Coupled with the cold air coming in could make for difficult travel.
712. Finky 9:43 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Blizz,

What are the chances of me getting any snow out of this storm?
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713. TheDawnAwakening 9:51 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Blizzard my thoughts right now on the Thursday clipper is a weak storm aided by the fact its so cold outside when it comes through. The fact that the models don't have an intense low or something deeper then 999mb which I think is quite deep, will not produce anything more then a few inches in any one spot. This doesn't look as dynamic as it is right now in the northern Plains and the low will be something like 1010mb once it hits the coast. This was the problem we saw with the Weekend clipper which never panned out because it was so weak when it hit the coast and the models over did the QPF, which is the case this time around for us again, except this time cold air stays as a high is located to the NW of the storm. Therefore a further south track with limited QPF the heaviest axis looks to hit south of NYC if the trends continue and I have no reason for them not too.
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714. TheRasberryPatch 9:57 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
What TDW needs is for this cold front pushing through right now to have that low off of NC hook up and ride along the front to give him some snow, but i am guessing the front will push the storm out to sea. looks like some areas of the coast will be getting a bit of rain.
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715. hurigo 10:22 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Hi Ya'll.
It's about 39 degrees here on the NC/VA border and it is raining. It feels very COLD. I wonder if we will get snow tonight.

Patch--a 50% increase in premiums? I wonder why. I haven't heard anything about it. There certainly are a lot of nice rental properties on OBX that are great for family get togethers for families that COOK, but not so great for people that do not enjoy a vacation of housekeeping and cooking. I prefer room service! Duck and Southern Shores are more to my liking. I dream of staying at the Sanderling.
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716. TheRasberryPatch 10:53 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
hurigo - i hear you. i pretty much am the same way, unless i am going to the OBX.
did they close your beach this year because of one nesting bird? the locals down in Avon were so upset this past summer because of beaches getting closed for one nest
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717. TheDawnAwakening 10:54 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
TRP, this really stinks, now it appears the Thursday clipper will be too weak and too far south. I derived my snowfall map in my blog from the 12z suite given that I believe the 18z suite is too far south and the 00z will correct that to some extent. Possibly even strengthening the low a little quicker as it reaches the still very warm Gulf Stream and combine that with the very cold air mass coming in it could mean some rather modest cyclogenesis off the coast.
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718. hurigo 11:05 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
I haven't heard about that Patch.
But, I'm on it.
Will report back with my findings!
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719. hurigo 11:17 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Maybe you are referring to last summer's restriction of vehicles on some stretches of beach. The battle of Drum fishing vs. osytercatcher and piping plover nests?

I know that was controversial, with one headline, save a bird, kill an island. I think that especially affected Cape Hatteras, Avon.

Here's one article I found about it.Link
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720. TheRasberryPatch 11:37 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
that was pretty much it hurigo. like i said the natives were restless. if you read the article and any comments it was not just vehicles, they would close the beach to everyone for a nest.
here is another website that is really good, hurigo. did you see two more whales washed ashore. Link
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721. hurigo 11:47 PM GMT on January 13, 2009    
Whoa.
I didn't know that Jimmy Buffet was here!
I didn't know about the latest whale beachings either. I guess I need to pay better attention, about some things, but have enjoyed my mini-vacation from the news.
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722. Zachary Labe 12:25 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Arctic front pushing across central Pennsylvania with snow squalls. Up to one inch of snow just was reported in a short bit of time in State College.
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723. Zachary Labe 1:39 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Beginning to lightly snow here as front approaches with squalls.
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724. TheDawnAwakening 1:47 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Blizzard I think the winds are too northwesterly for a prolonged period of ocean effect snow otherwise we would be pummeled by them.
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725. TheRasberryPatch 2:12 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
nothing going on in my area, Blizz.

hurigo that is a good link for OBX.
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726. TheDawnAwakening 2:17 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Where's Blizzard?
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727. Zachary Labe 11:08 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Good morning!!! Down to 15degrees here. I am thinking 1-4inches of snow from the turnpike on northward with 3-5inches of snow in the Laurel Highlands all coming tonight. Little snow is expected east of the Lebanon-Lancaster line.
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728. croftj 11:59 AM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Morning Bliz,

A chilly -1.2 here in Chicora this morning. Looks like we're in for one cold week. The wife's thinking about knitting woolies for our chickens!
729. Stanb999 12:00 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Good Morning blizzard,

My temp. is a balmy 1F. No wind or humidity so it feels warmer than the last few days. So it's not all bad.
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730. TheRasberryPatch 12:25 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
low of 15.2F this morning.
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731. PalmyraPunishment 1:46 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
morning everybody,

man it got slightly cold last night/this morning. low temperature in little sarajevo was 13 degrees -- currently it's 15 in palmyra.

we had a nice snow squall move through last night around 9:30 - 10:00 pm. didn't accumulate too much other than a light coating on a few cars, but it was definitely coming down in earnest.

hoping for negative readings thursday night into friday. and a touch of snow tonight won't hurt either.
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732. Zachary Labe 8:05 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Looks like snow is coming tonight, although it looks pretty disorganized on radar.
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733. TheDawnAwakening 8:10 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
NAM shows something interesting, it shows that the storm may strengthen a little faster and if we can get that 1008mb low a little further west, we are in business for 6"+.
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734. Zachary Labe 8:18 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- Quick mover this clipper is, not sure about that at all.
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735. PalmyraPunishment 8:23 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
radar is making it look like this thing may die a brutal and agonizing death over the mountains.
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736. Zachary Labe 8:25 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
PalmyraPunishment- It is actually doing fine from what I see. Mountains are doing it much destruction yet, mainly dry air but that is to be expected in the early parts of the storm. Snow has just been reported south of Altoona.
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737. onoweather 8:26 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
you still think snow will be the heaviest on the northside of the turnpike? it looks as though accumulations will be from the mason-dixon line to somewhere about half way between I-80, based on radar.
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738. Zachary Labe 8:28 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
onoweather- You are correct about the radar, it does seem to make the radar sheild look a bit farther to the south. Definitely something to watchful. Clippers always pull surprises making them one of my favorite types of storms to track. I still think 1-4inches is likely from turnpike northward with the Middle Susquehanna Valley near Selinsgrove being the winners with 3-5inches.
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739. sullivanweather 8:28 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Quoting onoweather:
you still think snow will be the heaviest on the northside of the turnpike? it looks as though accumulations will be from the mason-dixon line to somewhere about half way between I-80, based on radar.



Snow coming over the higher terrain of the Laurel Highlands always dries up from some downsloping. Should be mainly a virga storm from the Turnpike south.
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740. onoweather 8:29 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
this is another good storm for the wgal radar, cuts out the virga and gives you actual returns close to the surface. They should make a radar like this for the national radar, maybe they do... not sure. I know its very accurate though for ground observations.
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741. Snowlover2010 8:30 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
so bliz ya thinking i am too far south to see any acc?
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742. Zachary Labe 8:34 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
onoweather- That really is a great radar, thanks for the link the other day.

Snowlover2010- Likely, I have never seen Lancaster do well from clippers before.
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743. Snowlover2010 8:37 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
maybe this is the day. things are always changing. who i am kidding? ha ha:)
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744. Zachary Labe 8:38 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Snowlover2010- Keep the spirit high, I like the optimistic spirit this blog usually has.
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745. Mason803 8:41 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
blizzard,

check out warren & mckean counties seven day. I could settle for that>
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746. onoweather 8:42 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
I think snowlover will seem some snow, if the batch of precip. se of pittsburgh doesn't get eaten up over the mountains it should make it to lancaster based on its trajectory, although nothing has made it past franklin county as of yet.
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747. Zachary Labe 8:42 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Mason803- Lol, it would be awesome to live up there. Should be some decent lake effect snow tomorrow.
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748. Zachary Labe 8:43 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
onoweather- Take a look at latest radar, precipitation into western Perry/Cumberland Counties. Quickly blossoming.
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749. TheDawnAwakening 8:44 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
Is this blossoming precip going to be occuring here on Cape Cod, MA when it hits the coast?
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750. Zachary Labe 8:47 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
TheDawnAwakening- Likely chance, I would go with a 2-5inch snowfall out there, but watch the southern trend with the 850 vort.


*Snow accumulations of 1inch are being reported as far east as Indiana County already. A very heavy batch of snow is moving into Somerset County right now so they should pick up 3-6inches.
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751. onoweather 8:47 PM GMT on January 14, 2009    
yeah, the first band did that as well, it followed 76 through cumberland and then fell apart before reaching carlisle. I hope it fills in, I want some snow.
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