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World storm surge records
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:41 PM GMT on August 03, 2009 +4
There's still not much to talk about the tropical Atlantic today. The Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), the band of intense thunderstorms that spans the tropical Atlantic between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has grown more active in the past few days, though. The two tropical waves in the ITCZ closest to the coast of Africa bear some scrutiny this week as they cross the Atlantic. However, none of the models are currently forecasting development of these waves, and there is plenty of wind shear and dry air that will interfere with potential development.

World storm surge records
In preparation for the release of a major new storm surge section of the web site, I've been researching storm surge records. The Bathurst Bay Cyclone, also known as Tropical Cyclone Mahina, which struck Bathurst Bay, Australia on March 5, 1899, is generally credited with the world record for storm surge. The cyclone's storm surge is variously listed at 13 - 14.6 meters (43 - 48 feet). The Category 5 cyclone was a monster--with sustained winds in excess of 175 mph and a central pressure between 880 and 914 mb. Mahina killed at least 307 people, mostly on pearling ships, and was the deadliest cyclone in Australian history. The eyewitness account of Mahina's record storm surge was provided by Constable J. M. Kenny, who journeyed to Barrow Point on Bathurst Bay to investigate a crime on the day of the storm. While camped on a ridge 40 feet above sea level and 1/2 mile inland, Kenny's camp was inundated by a storm wave, reaching waist-deep. On nearby Flinders Island, fish and dolphins were found on top of 15 meter (49 foot) cliffs. However, an analysis by Nott and Hayne (2000) found no evidence of storm-deposited debris higher than 3 - 5 meters above mean sea level in the region. They also cited two computer storm surge simulations of the cyclone that were unable to generate a surge higher than three meters. Indeed, Bathurst Bay is not ideally situated to receive high storm surges. The Great Barrier Reef lies just 20 - 40 km offshore, and the ocean bottom near the bay is not shallow, but steeply sloped. Both of these factors should conspire to keep storm surges well below the record 13 - 14.6 meters reported. The authors concluded that the actual surge from the Bathurst Bay Cyclone may have been 3 - 5 meters. The observed inundation at 13 meters elevation, plus the observation of dolphins deposited at 15 meters above sea level, could have been caused by high waves on top of the surge, they argue. Waves on top of the surge (called "wave run-up") can reach five times the wave height at the shore for steeply fronted coasts like at Bathurst Bay. Since waves in the Bathurst Bay Cyclone could easily have been 3 meters, 15 meters of wave run-up on top of the surge is quite feasible. Since wave run-up doesn't count as surge, the status of the 1899 Bathurst Bay Hurricane as the world-record holder for storm surge is questionable. However, the event is certainly the record holder for the high water mark set by a tropical cyclone's storm surge, an important category in its own right.


Figure 1. Satellite image of Bathurst Bay, Queensland Province, Australia. The record 43 - 48 foot storm surge wave occurred on Barrow Point, marked by an "x" on the map above. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. Track of the 1899 Bathurst Bay cyclone. Bathurst Bay is located at the point where the 914 mb pressure is listed. Image credit: Whittingham, 1958.

Australian storm surge records
The largest storm surges in Australia occur in Gulf of Carpentaria, due to the large expanse of shallow water there (the Gulf of Carpentaria is the large bay to the left of the zoomed-in map of Bathurst Bay shown above). According to an email I received from Australian hurricane scientist Jeffrey Callaghan, "From all reports the storm surge from the disastrous 5 March 1887 cyclone flooded almost all of Burketown (some 30km inland from the Gulf). A copy of a 1918 report to the Queensland Parliament from the Department of Harbours and Rivers Engineer refers to the sea rising to 5.5 metres above the highest spring tide level at the Albert River Heads. This level is about 8 metres (26.2 feet) above Australian Height Datum (AHD). The biggest measured surge in the Gulf of Carpenteria occurred on 30 March 1923, when a surge of 21.4 feet was recorded at a Groote Eylandt Mission".

So what is the world storm surge record if the Bathurst Bay cyclone does not qualify? Well, I haven't researched storms in the Indian Ocean or Pacific Typhoons yet, but it might be difficult to find any storm that beats Hurricane Katrina's 27.8 foot storm surge.

References:
Nott, J, N. Hayne, 2000: How high was the storm surge from Tropical Cyclone Mahina?", Australian Journal of Emergency Management, Autumn 2000.

Anonymous, 1899, The Outridge Report--The Pearling Disaster 1899: A Memorial", The Outridge Company, 1899

Whittingham, 1958, "The Bathurst Bay hurricane and associated storm surge", Australian Meteorological Magazine, No. 27, pp. 40-41. Scanned and put on-line courtesy of John McBride.

I'll have an update on Tuesday, when the latest CSU seasonal hurricane forecast comes out at 11am EDT.
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Jeff Masters
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401. Cavin Rawlins 6:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:

In the last rame it appears to be spreading out a bit, starting to un-organize actually. But I want it to form lol we need something to track in the atlantic.


which one? 18W or 30W
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402. Chicklit 6:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:


NO.....they really did put a yellow circle there....but it was a mistake, and they just now fixed it.

Someone forgot...they're downcasting this year.
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403. AllStar17 6:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:

In the last rame it appears to be spreading out a bit, starting to un-organize actually. But I want it to form lol we need something to track in the atlantic.


No it is coming more into the satellite range, therefore it looks like it is spreading out, but it really is not. It is just moving into range of the CATL satellite.
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404. RitaEvac 6:07 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
System between 25W and 30W is the one to keep an eye on, the other one just off Africa is too far north already
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405. Dakster 6:08 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting BobinTampa:


I believe he prefers Drakster.


Hey Hey Hey.... Do not confuse me with Drak...

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406. Cavin Rawlins 6:08 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
There are areas of the Caribbean under drought, I cannot wait for the MJO for tropical systems and increase rainfall.
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409. BurnedAfterPosting 6:09 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Really both have a shot to develop because they are far enough apart

the wave at 18W has nice structure as is recognized as a wave by the NHC, it is also south of 15N. so it is not too far north for development

the area at 30W, is not a wave but a disturbance in the ITCZ that has shown organization


If they can stay far enough apart, for all we know both could develop
411. RitaEvac 6:11 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
Really both have a shot to develop because they are far enough apart

the wave at 18W has nice structure as is recognized as a wave by the NHC, it is also south of 15N. so it is not too far north for development

the area at 30W, is not a wave but a disturbance in the ITCZ that has shown organization


If they can stay far enough apart, for all we know both could develop


Yea, the one just off Africa and below 15W has potential but usually when their that far north just off Africa they tend to spin off NW and out to sea, so the one nearing 30W is more of concern for us
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413. Drakoen 6:12 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
Really both have a shot to develop because they are far enough apart

the wave at 18W has nice structure as is recognized as a wave by the NHC, it is also south of 15N. so it is not too far north for development

the area at 30W, is not a wave but a disturbance in the ITCZ that has shown organization


If they can stay far enough apart, for all we know both could develop


They are not both going to develop. There is a very low chance for development.
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414. Cavin Rawlins 6:12 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
12Z UKMET, develops it but does not show much past 2-3 days.
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415. MahFL 6:13 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
This is a wide view.

GEOS
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416. Drakoen 6:15 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
I don't see development on the UKMET.
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417. Cavin Rawlins 6:15 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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418. Drakoen 6:16 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Dust Forecast

Shear Forecast


Yep good amount of dust to hamper development.
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420. Cavin Rawlins 6:19 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
All cyclinders are firing.


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421. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6:19 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
You are all to be commended for your appropriately specific references to North and South Carolina!!!

Thank you for your attention to this critical detail...
LOL
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423. cyclonekid 6:20 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


or maybe it was for later 2night
We can always wish...can't we?
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424. Seflhurricane 6:23 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
the tropical wave looks impressive has some circulation to it i really believe we will have a TD by the weekend
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425. Seflhurricane 6:24 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
All cyclinders are firing.


weather do you think we will have an invest real soon its really firing up
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427. Cavin Rawlins 6:25 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
weather do you think we will have an invest real soon its really firing up



if it persists through this evening.
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428. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6:25 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
All cyclinders are firing.


once to 12n35w then we see what is to happen got to lift a little and become independed from the ITCZ
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430. HIEXPRESS 6:26 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
RE: 397
Here, on IR centered 8N 53W, 20 frame loop (fast) it spins , but this graphic (CIMSS relative vort) doesn't reflect what I see (at any level). Nothing, I know, but as long as we're blob watching...
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431. cyclonekid 6:26 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:
LOL

How do you guys put the TWO's up there...I can NEVER do that :((
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433. Seflhurricane 6:27 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good afternoon!
hey storm what do you think of the tropical wave looks good lets see if it persists any other models going for development at this time :)
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434. mobilegirl81 6:27 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
I also agree. This wave is not disintegrating.
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436. Seflhurricane 6:30 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
lets do the usual game

A) the wave develops into an invest by morning and we have a depresion by weeks end

B) the wave maintains convection but dust hampers development

C) the wave develops by wednesday into a TD

D) the wave never develops
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437. Cavin Rawlins 6:30 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good afternoon!


would ou mine commenting on the feature or is it unchange from your update.

Oh and Good afternoon
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440. MobileMob 6:32 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good afternoon!

Good Afternoon Sir
Good Afternoon All
442. Seflhurricane 6:33 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


What wave? (just kidding). I give it a better chance than the one closer to the African coast. Though the one near the coast looks a little more symmetric, if it keeps heading NWWD, it's gonna hit dust, cooler water, and a more stable environment.
thanks storm i think it has a 50 % to develop
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443. 19N81W 6:34 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
looks like it has a good chance but likely torn apart when it gets into the Caribbean?
How accurate are those shear forcasts?
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445. Seflhurricane 6:35 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting 19N81W:
looks like it has a good chance but likely torn apart when it gets into the Caribbean?
How accurate are those shear forcasts?
they can change in a heart beat thats why we look for consistency
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447. weathermanwannabe 6:36 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
lets do the usual game

A) the wave develops into an invest by morning and we have a depresion by weeks end

B) the wave maintains convection but dust hampers development

C) the wave develops by wednesday into a TD

D) the wave never develops


E) Wave does not get it's act together in the short term; weakens in the Atlantic due to SAL, and, but "re-forms" as a contender north of the Antilles near the Bahamas in about a week..
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448. 7544 6:37 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
a and thanks strom w
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451. BurnedAfterPosting 6:39 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Good afternoon!

No sir...don't mind at all.

Convection appears to continue to build, however, looks like it may have lost some vorticity. The cyclonic motion doesn't appear to be as defined as it was earlier. Definitely needs to get out of the ITCZ.


I agree it does look like its lost some vorticity

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