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Hawaii braces for Felicia; 99L near the Cape Verdes Islands may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2009 +4
A strong tropical wave (99L) is just south of the Cape Verdes Islands, 800 miles off the coast of Africa. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a nearly closed surface circulation, stretched out along one axis. The satellite saw winds of up to 45 mph in a band of heavy thunderstorms well south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The islands have seen winds of only 10 - 15 mph and some occasional rain showers thus far from the disturbance. Heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 99L died down this morning, but appears to be making a comeback late this morning. Wind shear is moderate, about 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures are moderately warm, about 27 - 28°C. There is a large area of dry air to 99L's north that is interfering with the storm's organization, though.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of disturbance 99L.

Wind shear is expected to be moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Wednesday. SSTs will remain relatively constant at 27°C, but the dry, stable air of the Saharan AIr Layer (SAL) to 99L's north will be problem for it. NHC has given 99L a moderate (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Most of the models show some weak development, but none of them predict 99L will become a hurricane. It is too early to say if 99L will recurve north of the Lesser Antilles Islands or not, since it will be at least 5 days before the storm makes it that far. It is unusual, though, for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands.

The GFS and ECMWF models are predicting the possible development of a new tropical wave coming off the coast of Africa late this week.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia has weakened steadily over the past 24 hours, thanks to cool sea surface temperatures and increasing shear. Recent satellite loops show that strong upper-level winds from the west have pushed the storm's heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds. Felicia's relatively meager heavy thunderstorm activity is steadily moving away from the center of the storm.


Figure 2. History of hurricane activity over Hawaii since 1950. Hawaii islands have been hit by only 9 tropical cyclones of tropical depression or greater strength, with 4 others passing withing 75 miles of an island. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia are 25°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by Tuesday. Wind shear has increased to a high 30 knots, and is expected to increase further to 40 knots by Tuesday. The high shear combined with the cool SSTs should continue to weaken Felicia today. I give a 30% chance that the shear will completely rip away Felicia's heavy thunderstorm activity by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, leaving only a swirl of low-level clouds that will not cause significant flooding problems. The wind speed probabilities forecast shows about a 25% chance Felicia will still be a weak tropical storm at 3 am Hawaiian time Tuesday morning, and a 15% chance the storm will have dissipated. If Felicia does hold together that long, it would be only the tenth tropical cyclone of tropical depression or higher strength to affect the islands since 1950 (Figure 2). Large swells from Felicia are already affecting the Big Island, and a high surf warning has been posted for east-facing shores of the Big Island and other Hawaiian islands. Felicia or its remnants may bring heavy rain, flash flooding, and mud slides to the islands beginning this afternoon, and a Flash Flood Watch has been posted for most of the islands.

Links to follow:
Long range radar from the Big Island
Wundermap for Hawaii

I'll have an update Tuesday morning.
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1052. ALCoastGambler 8:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:


I'm from Pensacola. We've shortened that to P'cola when talkin'. (Too many syllables.)

Pass Christian (4 syllables)
Gulfport (a more managable 2 syllables)

Take a poll. Most people will tell ya Gulfport if asked where Camille made landfall. (Even though wrong.)
LOL understandable but I'm from Gpt and we don't want the responsability of Camille...lol
1053. jurakantaino 8:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Dr. Lions Said the wave near the island "looks ferousious" but to much shear hindering development of the system. How strong is the shear there?
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1054. cyclonekid 8:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Dr. Lyons just said that the Barbados Blob has little chance of developing because UL winds are too unfavorable. I thought they were perfect.
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1056. futuremet 8:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Convection seems to be waning with the Antilles wave. If this continues, this means that it is vulnerable to diurnal maximum, and it is not self-sufficient. The wave behind will likely be that one that develops. The Antilles wave have been doing this for over a week when it was in the ITCZ.

I'd focus more on 99L and the wave near 45W
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1057. CybrTeddy 8:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting jurakantaino:
Dr. Lions Said the wave near the island "looks ferousious" but to much shear hindering development of the system. How much is the shear there?


Hardly any. LOL! The NHC says conditions are favorable.
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1058. cyclonekid 8:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
See....
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1059. chevycanes 8:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Lyons is wrong.
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1060. presslord 8:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
tsunami alert
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1062. ALCoastGambler 8:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Hardly any. LOL! The NHC says conditions are favorable.
So basically, if TWC says the sun will rise tomorrow. We better check other sources?....LOL
1063. futuremet 8:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:
We can't forget about AOI #2 which is currently around 47W... 18Z NAM has been trending towards a stronger disturb region heading right over the NE Leeward Islands and NE of PR. It still have a good low level (850MB) VORT MAX. Although convection is not that great at this point... it does continue to show its ability to sustain convection and recent SAT images to agreed on some convection increase with this area.


Yes, it is he...he is the chosen one!


This is the wave that has a greater chance and 99L
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1064. WxLogic 8:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
Convection seems to be waning with the Antilles wave. If this continues, this means that it is vulnerable to diurnal maximum, and it is not self-sufficient. The wave behind will likely be that one that develops. The Antilles wave have been doing this for over a week when it was in the ITCZ.

I'd focus more on 99L and the wave near 45W


Indeed...
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1065. MsBlanch 8:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting ALCoastGambler:
My first was Camille. Was 5 1/2 y/o. Lived in Gpt, MS. Never left home. Have stayed for every storm since. Spend every year telling people to get out if thy can. Talk about hypacritical.


Gosh I resemble that remark - was 14 and had just moved from Bay St Louis to P'cola
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1066. wunderkidcayman 8:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
well look what I found on NRL
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1067. futuremet 9:01 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:


Indeed...


That wave is just another 97L; I hate waves like that.
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1068. PcolaDan 9:01 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting ALCoastGambler:
LOL understandable but I'm from Gpt and we don't want the responsability of Camille...lol


Did make for some nice Redfish holes in the "new" Ship Island(s) pass. :)
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1069. sky1989 9:01 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Shear is only 5 to 10 knots over the Antilles wave which is very favorable for development. However, something else is keeping it in check as there still is a lack of any well-established outflow, but because of my limited meteorological skill I cannot determine what the inhibiting factor is!
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1070. presslord 9:02 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
"aximoranic"

...just curious...from what language does this word come?
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1071. chevycanes 9:03 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:


Indeed...
Quoting futuremet:
Convection seems to be waning with the Antilles wave. If this continues, this means that it is vulnerable to diurnal maximum, and it is not self-sufficient. The wave behind will likely be that one that develops. The Antilles wave have been doing this for over a week when it was in the ITCZ.

I'd focus more on 99L and the wave near 45W

you mean diurnal minimum?
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1072. futuremet 9:03 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting chevycanes:

you mean diurnal minimum?


Yes lol

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1073. ALCoastGambler 9:03 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting PcolaDan:


Did make for some nice Redfish holes in the "new" Ship Island(s) pass. :)
I will agree there. And the Grasses around Cat
1074. KYhomeboy 9:03 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
Convection seems to be waning with the Antilles wave. If this continues, this means that it is vulnerable to diurnal maximum, and it is not self-sufficient. The wave behind will likely be that one that develops. The Antilles wave have been doing this for over a week when it was in the ITCZ.

I'd focus more on 99L and the wave near 45W


I think you mean vulnerable to diurnal MINimum. Diurnal max will only assist this feature. Just because a system fluctuates in terms of heavy convection doesn't mean it';s over. People are always so quick to write a system off because or warming cloud tops (an almost guaranteed process in developing systems)
1075. wunderkidcayman 9:04 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
18z map the low is still there and added a second low at our AOI #2 BUT IT IS dieing
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1076. Patrap 9:04 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
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1077. Floodman 9:05 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Howdy Flood! Good to see ya!


Good to be seen...as a good friend used to say, any day you wake up on the right side of the grass is a good one...LOL

So we have some features to discuss it seems...the bit in the Antilles looks interesting in a Chinese sort of way, huh?
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1078. futuremet 9:05 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting KYhomeboy:


I think you mean vulnerable to diurnal MINimum. Diurnal max will only assist this feature. Just because a system fluctuates in terms of heavy convection doesn't mean it';s over. People are always so quick to write a system off because or warming cloud tops (an almost guaranteed process in developing systems)


On the contrary, I am appalled to see people paying less attention to the other waves east of the Antilles wave, which have a greater chance. 99L still has a far greater chance.
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1079. louisianaboy444 9:05 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Shear is only 5 to 10 knots over the Antilles wave which is very favorable for development. However, something else is keeping it in check as there still is a lack of any well-established outflow, but because of my limited meteorological skill I cannot determine what the inhibiting factor is!

it needs more Upper Level Divergence or in other words an Anticyclone to help it breathe and create outflow
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1080. gator23 9:06 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Hardly any. LOL! The NHC says conditions are favorable.

The weather channel is the suck. A cat 5 could be bearing down on South Florida and they would be reporting from Gerogia saying that the storm isnt too bad...
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1081. Floodman 9:07 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
I'm good, oh denizen of the academe; how are you today?
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1082. TerraNova 9:07 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Tsunami warning after Indian Ocean Quake


AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 1956Z 10 AUG 2009
COORDINATES - 14.1 NORTH 93.0 EAST
LOCATION - ANDAMAN ISLANDS INDIA REGION
MAGNITUDE - 7.7

EVALUATION

EARTHQUAKES OF THIS SIZE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE A
DESTRUCTIVE LOCAL TSUNAMI AND SOMETIMES A DESTRUCTIVE REGIONAL
TSUNAMI
ALONG COASTS LOCATED USUALLY NO MORE THAN A THOUSAND
KILOMETERS FROM THE EARTHQUAKE EPICENTER. AREAS FURTHER FROM THE
EPICENTER COULD EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA LEVEL CHANGES AND STRONG OR
UNUSUAL COASTAL CURRENTS.

HOWEVER - IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT A TSUNAMI WAS GENERATED. THIS
WATCH IS BASED ONLY ON THE EARTHQUAKE EVALUATION. AUTHORITIES IN
THE REGION SHOULD TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO THIS
POSSIBILITY. THE WATCH WILL NOT EXPAND TO OTHER AREAS OF THE
INDIAN OCEAN UNLESS ADDITIONAL DATA ARE RECEIVED TO WARRANT SUCH
AN EXPANSION.

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1083. hondaguy 9:07 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
Shear is only 5 to 10 knots over the Antilles wave which is very favorable for development. However, something else is keeping it in check as there still is a lack of any well-established outflow, but because of my limited meteorological skill I cannot determine what the inhibiting factor is!

it needs more Upper Level Divergence or in other words an Anticyclone to help it breathe and create outflow


Outflow is the major inhibiting factor with the wave near Barbados.
1084. louisianaboy444 9:08 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Heres a thought to ponder...If there is a developing Tropical Cyclone and a large tsunami passes under it can it have an effect on the system i mean i know a tsunami ain't much in mid ocean but could it stir up the water?
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1086. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 9:10 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
POSS T.C.F.A.
INV/99L/XX


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1088. TerraNova 9:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
Heres a thought to ponder...If there is a developing Tropical Cyclone and a large tsunami passes under it can it have an effect on the system i mean i know a tsunami ain't much in mid ocean but could it stir up the water?


Good question...since tsunamis (whatever the plural of that is) tend to extend from the surface down through the deepest levels of the ocean, it might cause cooler water from the depths to surge up to the surface. Just an educated guess, though...
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1089. Floodman 9:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
"aximoranic"

...just curious...from what language does this word come?


Apparently it's a new word, having something to do with the spin axis of Rick Moranis...maybe Canadian, huh?
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1090. stormdude77 9:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Winds are starting to increase here in Barbados...just had a 35 mph gust
1091. extreme236 9:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
POSS T.C.F.A.
INV/99L/XX




There was a TCFA issued but I doubt it gets renewed tonight.
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1092. louisianaboy444 9:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Outflow is the major inhibiting factor with the wave near Barbados

Yes Voricity levels are there in the 850 mb level but it is imbalanced...The convergence and divergence are the same if it can gain some divergence aloft which could happen with sustainable convection or an anticyclone then the low will be able to deepen and pressure could start falling....Looking at the maps it looks to be a mid level low it will have to deepen to make its way down to the surface
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1093. presslord 9:12 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


Apparently it's a new word, having something to do with the spin axis of Rick Moranis...maybe Canadian, huh?



...ah....that explains it...thanks ; )
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1094. sctonya 9:13 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
I refreshed my page and got this: "To help protect your security, IE has blocked this website from displaying content with security certificate errors" Is someone posting bad links again?
1095. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 9:13 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    


AOI/XX/XXL
MARK
13.3N/59.4W
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1096. hondaguy 9:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
Heres a thought to ponder...If there is a developing Tropical Cyclone and a large tsunami passes under it can it have an effect on the system i mean i know a tsunami ain't much in mid ocean but could it stir up the water?


Doubtful, I dont think a moving tsunami wave would cause much upwelling since it is a different type of wave than surface waves cause by wind.

Tsunami's generally only move one direction away from the main energy source leaving waters relatively undisturbed till they get to shore. It would basically move under all the other waves and leave the surface undisturbed.

Of course I could be totally wrong, but that's the best description based on my understanding of tsunami's...which isnt much. haha
1097. ALCoastGambler 9:13 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Guys just got another virus warning. Don't know where it came from though
1098. louisianaboy444 9:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Good question...since tsunamis (whatever the plural of that is) tend to extend from the surface down through the deepest levels of the ocean, it might cause cooler water from the depths to surge up to the surface. Just an educated guess, though...

yeah thats what i was thinking also i knew it would inhibit developement if anything
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1099. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 9:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


There was a TCFA issued but I doubt it gets renewed tonight.
its for tonight as darkness falls it has to refire or its done
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1100. presslord 9:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
It would basically move under all the other waves and leave the surface undisturbed.

...you are correct, sir...,
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1101. TerraNova 9:15 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting ALCoastGambler:
Guys just got another virus warning. Don't know where it came from though


Yeah my browser says this page has "security certificate errors". Somebody must have posted something from a restricted access site.
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