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Hawaii braces for Felicia; 99L near the Cape Verdes Islands may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2009 +4
A strong tropical wave (99L) is just south of the Cape Verdes Islands, 800 miles off the coast of Africa. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a nearly closed surface circulation, stretched out along one axis. The satellite saw winds of up to 45 mph in a band of heavy thunderstorms well south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The islands have seen winds of only 10 - 15 mph and some occasional rain showers thus far from the disturbance. Heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 99L died down this morning, but appears to be making a comeback late this morning. Wind shear is moderate, about 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures are moderately warm, about 27 - 28°C. There is a large area of dry air to 99L's north that is interfering with the storm's organization, though.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of disturbance 99L.

Wind shear is expected to be moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Wednesday. SSTs will remain relatively constant at 27°C, but the dry, stable air of the Saharan AIr Layer (SAL) to 99L's north will be problem for it. NHC has given 99L a moderate (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Most of the models show some weak development, but none of them predict 99L will become a hurricane. It is too early to say if 99L will recurve north of the Lesser Antilles Islands or not, since it will be at least 5 days before the storm makes it that far. It is unusual, though, for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands.

The GFS and ECMWF models are predicting the possible development of a new tropical wave coming off the coast of Africa late this week.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia has weakened steadily over the past 24 hours, thanks to cool sea surface temperatures and increasing shear. Recent satellite loops show that strong upper-level winds from the west have pushed the storm's heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds. Felicia's relatively meager heavy thunderstorm activity is steadily moving away from the center of the storm.


Figure 2. History of hurricane activity over Hawaii since 1950. Hawaii islands have been hit by only 9 tropical cyclones of tropical depression or greater strength, with 4 others passing withing 75 miles of an island. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia are 25°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by Tuesday. Wind shear has increased to a high 30 knots, and is expected to increase further to 40 knots by Tuesday. The high shear combined with the cool SSTs should continue to weaken Felicia today. I give a 30% chance that the shear will completely rip away Felicia's heavy thunderstorm activity by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, leaving only a swirl of low-level clouds that will not cause significant flooding problems. The wind speed probabilities forecast shows about a 25% chance Felicia will still be a weak tropical storm at 3 am Hawaiian time Tuesday morning, and a 15% chance the storm will have dissipated. If Felicia does hold together that long, it would be only the tenth tropical cyclone of tropical depression or higher strength to affect the islands since 1950 (Figure 2). Large swells from Felicia are already affecting the Big Island, and a high surf warning has been posted for east-facing shores of the Big Island and other Hawaiian islands. Felicia or its remnants may bring heavy rain, flash flooding, and mud slides to the islands beginning this afternoon, and a Flash Flood Watch has been posted for most of the islands.

Links to follow:
Long range radar from the Big Island
Wundermap for Hawaii

I'll have an update Tuesday morning.
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3201. CaneWarning 1:30 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting TheCaneWhisperer:


That plays out, it would be chaos. The insurance industry is crippled right now thanks to Gov. Christ


You can say that again.
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3202. Stormchaser2007 1:32 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
TD2 is forecasted to go up to 60-65 MPH at the end of the forecast period so beyond that it wouldn't surprise me to see TD2 become a Hurricane.


Look at shear and SAL then come back to me lol
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3203. WAHA 1:30 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Autistic2:
Two yellow and a TD.
Yet the 0-0-0 rolls on!
But how long? Untill latter today?
Will the SAL slow this down?
Is this the end of the Perfecta?
The plot thickens with the mystery guest named SAL.

LATTER?! YOU FAIL!
3204. sporteguy03 1:31 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting ineedwind:


I think 50w and 60w are dead. Looked way more promising yesterday. For TD2, NHC just looks at the data and makes their judgment based on hard facts (not wrong at all). Just saying they're not taking into account that it is basically surrounded by dry air/SAL.


Great point, but it has been that way for a few days, if it meets the requirements of a closed low per quikscat and Dvorak it can be classified despite what future it holds.
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3205. RescueAFR 1:31 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Some folks blogged earlier that is was a suprise South Fla media hadn't mentioned the activity in the Atlantic...Sure enough SunSentinel.com..just posted to the front page the track of TD2..see it didnt take long!!
Stay well...
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3206. Seastep 1:31 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Well I didn't expect to see a special advisory issued to upgrade this to a depression. Interesting. Good morning all.


It looked awesome at 5-6am. Perfectly round convection. That with an observed fully closed low. Really not a tough call at that point.

You can still see a hint of in the first frame at SSD, but not on the floater. Look at the CATL loop.
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3207. Nolehead 1:31 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
3192. TheCaneWhisperer 1:27 PM GMT on August 11, 2009
Quoting Funkadelic:
Im surprised the news here in south florida wont talk about what models ae developing behind 99L.


That plays out, it would be chaos. The insurance industry is crippled right now thanks to Gov. Christ


with the economy the way it is...a storm is the last thing anybody needs....i can just see the media and insurance companies scaring the bejeebies out of everyone...not to mention all the empty forclosed homes down south...not good at all...
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3209. mobilegirl81 1:31 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
That does not look good.
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3210. JRRP 1:32 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
GFDL still showing Bill to the west
Link
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3211. CybrTeddy 1:32 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Look at shear and SAL then come back to me lol


Do you think TD 2 will even become named?
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3212. Orcasystems 1:32 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Blog Update
Reflector site for those at work, which includes Weather456, daily update.


TD2

AOI
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3213. Stormchaser2007 1:32 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
GFDL is pretty disturbing. It clearly develops 3 separate systems. The first is TD02 the next is the 'Bill' wave and the third is the 50W wave which it has cutting through south Florida and making it into the Gulf.

Tracks are marked by red lines and circles are points of genesis

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3214. 7544 1:33 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting fmbill:



Good morning, all. I'm curious...per the 00z GFS, it appears the wave at 50w will come to the Florida east coast; followed by Ana crossing the southern tip of Florida; followed by "Bill" brushing the Florida east coast.

Anyone else seeing this?


thanks so its back to fla again
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3215. CaneWarning 1:33 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting RescueAFR:
Some folks blogged earlier that is was a suprise South Fla media hadn't mentioned the activity in the Atlantic...Sure enough SunSentinel.com..just posted to the front page the track of TD2..see it didnt take long!!
Stay well...


They're talking about it in Tampa for sure.
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3217. Stormchaser2007 1:34 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Do you think TD 2 will even become named?


I do. But at the moment im not following any models due to the lack of consistency and data. Im going to wait until tomorrow until I make a full intensity forecast and track. If the models look the same then Ill wait again.
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3218. mobilegirl81 1:34 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Looks like the models are trying to tell us something.
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3219. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 1:34 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
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3220. BobinTampa 1:35 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Tropics are the lead story on Ch. 28's website here in Tampa. And we NEVER get hit (thanks Deflector Shields).

Think they'd be getting antsy down Miami way. I'm sure WeatherStudent is running through the streets screaming like a little girl right now.

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3221. mobilegirl81 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Tucan sam?
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3222. caribbeansurvivor1 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Good Morning JRRP, ready to the College? What is expected to TD 1 and the "Bill" wave? I think we will have Anna at 12 or so....What u think pal?
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3224. BenBIogger 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting BobinTampa:
Tropics are the lead story on Ch. 28's website here in Tampa. And we NEVER get hit (thanks Deflector Shields).

Think they'd be getting antsy down Miami way. I'm sure WeatherStudent is running through the streets screaming like a little girl right now.



lol
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3225. WPBHurricane05 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting BobinTampa:
Tropics are the lead story on Ch. 28's website here in Tampa. And we NEVER get hit (thanks Deflector Shields).

Think they'd be getting antsy down Miami way. I'm sure WeatherStudent is running through the streets screaming like a little girl right now.



LOL...I can hear him in West Palm Beach...50 miles away!
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3226. Alockwr21 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Models will change a lot between now and when something actually reaches land.
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3227. heliluv2trac 1:38 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
where is weatherstudent somewhere probably asking everyone is it coming here
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3228. Stormchaser2007 1:38 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:


LOL...I can hear him in West Palm Beach...50 miles away!


Same here lol
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3229. CybrTeddy 1:38 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting caribbeansurvivor1:
Good Morning JRRP, ready to the College? What is expected to TD 1 and the "Bill" wave? I think we will have Anna at 12 or so....What u think pal?


TD 2* TD 1 was in May.
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3230. BenBIogger 1:39 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting heliluv2trac:
where is weatherstudent somewhere probably asking everyone is it coming here


Right now he's in school.
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3231. mobilegirl81 1:39 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Weather student is saying "Follow my nose!"
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3232. WAHA 1:39 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

the are not telling us they are telling weatherstudent to get the heck off the east coast

Oh, and how is he offensive?
3234. Orcasystems 1:39 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
I must admit... Weather456 does make some nice graphics to understand whats going on.

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3235. jscs 1:39 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting BobinTampa:
Tropics are the lead story on Ch. 28's website here in Tampa. And we NEVER get hit (thanks Deflector Shields).

Think they'd be getting antsy down Miami way. I'm sure WeatherStudent is running through the streets screaming like a little girl right now.



People are ready for a good story. Seems to me it's far too early to even say these storms will get named. Quiet year equals loud voices when anything forms.
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3236. Nolehead 1:41 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
3223. Acemmett90 1:37 PM GMT on August 11, 2009
Quoting mobilegirl81:
Looks like the models are trying to tell us something.

the are not telling us they are telling weatherstudent to get the heck off the east coast


that's just too dang funny...is weatherstudent JFV?? i haven't seen his scared frantic self in a while...
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3237. JamesGalloway 1:40 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Just now got online today. Anyone mentioned that a couple models develop the 50W wave and the CMC takes it into the Gulf?
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3238. alaina1085 1:40 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Morning everyone!!

FINALLY 99L is a TD. Going catch up on posts.
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3239. WAHA 1:40 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting BenBIogger:


Right now he's in school.

How do you know?
3240. caribbeansurvivor1 1:41 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Thanks for enlighting me in the TD matter, can u do the same offering your opinion to my question? thanks!!
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3241. BobinTampa 1:41 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting jscs:


People are ready for a good story. Seems to me it's far too early to even say these storms will get named. Quiet year equals loud voices when anything forms.


very true. The local news likes nothing better than leading the newscast with the local weatherman breathlessly telling us how we're in the dreaded Cone of Uncertainty.
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3242. TheCaneWhisperer 1:41 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting JamesGalloway:
Just now got online today. Anyone mentioned that a couple models develop the 50W wave and the CMC takes it into the Gulf?


The sneak attack was picked up by the GFDL as well.
3243. heliluv2trac 1:42 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
where is drak i hope he got his computer fixed we are going to need all the help we can get for the upcoming weeks
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3244. presslord 1:42 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:


Today's his birthday. His present of significant tropical activity arrived same day.

Gotta love that Karma!


wonder if he took your advice about the candles...
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3245. Drakoen 1:43 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
I see that TD 2 has formed
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3246. heliluv2trac 1:43 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
post models
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3247. HurricaneGeek 1:44 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Good morning everybody.
I am quite surprised to see TD2. The NHC didn't mention anything about dry air in their discussion or outlook. They did however say that if it were to go a little bit further north than anticipated, it could be weaker. Stronger is it goes more south. No matter how much we know here, the NHC guys are the pros. I tend to think that because they didn't mention dry air/SAL it won't be a problem.
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3248. mobilegirl81 1:44 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Who posted the pic of WS? We need a side profile to check the size of that beek.
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3250. Stormchaser2007 1:44 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
I see that TD 2 has formed


Barely..but yeah.

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3251. 7544 1:45 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
count to 10 the gfsx 10 day

Link
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