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Ana, Bill, and Claudette--a rare early season triple threat
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:58 PM GMT on August 16, 2009 +5
After an unusually slow start to the Atlantic hurricane season, the tropics exploded into action this weekend. We have a rare triple threat this afternoon--simultaneous named storms beginning with the letters A, B, and C. The last time this occurred was in the slow-starting 1984 hurricane season, when Tropical Storms Arthur, Bertha, and Cesar were all active on September 1. This afternoon, the Hurricane Hunters confirmed than Tropical Storm Claudette had formed in the Gulf of Mexico. Radar animations out of the Florida Panhandle show a small but well-organized tropical storm with plenty of heavy thunderstorm activity, and improving low-level spiral banding. Claudette has built an eyewall that is 1/3 complete on the east side of the center. Some moderate wind shear from upper-level southwesterly winds is keeping Claudette from forming much heavy thunderstorm activity on its west side. Most of the rain is on the right side of the storm, and regions to the left of where Claudette comes ashore will get only a maximum of 1 - 2 inches of rain. Satellite loops show an area of intense thunderstorms with cold cloud tops continuing to expand near the storm's center.


Figure 1. Current short-range radar out of the Florida Panhandle.

Claudette developed literally overnight, and has enough time over water to be a 60 - 65 mph tropical storm by the time it makes landfall tonight along the Florida Panhandle. Claudette reminds me of 2007's Hurricane Humberto, which became a hurricane just 24 hours after first appearing as a tropical depression. By the time Claudette makes landfall, it will have been in existence just 18 hours since the first advisory. This is not enough time to strengthen into a hurricane. If Claudette had had another twelve hours over the 30°C waters of the Gulf of Mexico, it would likely have been a hurricane. Given that the storm is so small, storm surge flooding should not exceed 3 - 5 feet, and will not be the major hazard from Claudette. Inland flooding from heavy rains of 3 - 6 inches is likely to be the main threat from the storm.

Ana near death
The Hurricane Hunters are in Tropical Storm Ana, and have found that the storm is very disorganized, and may not survive another day. Dry air continues to plague the storm, thanks to the large area of Saharan air the storm is embedded in. Ana's very rapid forward motion of 20 - 25 mph has stretched out the storm's circulation from circular to elliptical. This non-circular flow around the center has made the heavy thunderstorm activity less organized, and it may be difficult for the storm to hold together much longer. The outer rain showers from Ana are now on radar out of Martinique.

Nearly all of the computer models forecast Ana will dissipate over the next two days. If there is anything left of the storm by the time it encounters the rugged terrain of Hispaniola, that should finish Ana off. At this time, it does not appear that Ana will be moist enough to cause a major flooding disaster on Hispaniola.

Tropical Storm Bill continues strengthening
Tropical Storm Bill continues to gather strength in the middle Atlantic Ocean, and appears poised to become a major Cape Verdes-type hurricane later this week. Water vapor satellite loops show that Bill has developed a core region of heavy thunderstorms that should be fairly impervious to the dry Saharan air to its northwest, and the storm should be able to start building an eyewall tonight.

Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is forecast to be in the low range for the next three days. With Sea Surface Temperatures at 27.5°C, and ocean heat content sharply increasing 2 - 3 days from now, Bill should be able to intensify to a major Category 3 or 4 hurricane by Wednesday. At that time, some increasing shear may limit further intensification.

The big news is that our most reliable computer model from last year--the ECMWF model--appears to have made the right call yesterday, forecasting that a major trough of low pressure would develop along the U.S. East Coast, turning Bill more to the north. All of the other models have now jumped on the ECMWF bandwagon, forecasting that Bill will pass well north of the Lesser Antilles Islands. The UKMET model, which was resisting forecasting the northward turn, has now joined the other models in its latest 12Z run. The main drama with Bill this week will be to see how close it passes to Bermuda. Several models have Bill passing within 200 miles of Bermuda on Saturday. It is too early to be confident that Bill will miss the U.S. East Coast.

I'll have an update Monday.

Jeff Masters
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951. FloridaTigers 1:25 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:


Still a rumor. I sent him an email and he say's that he expects the models to shift to the west when a jet goes into bill to get data.

Sorry for the confusion, but acoording to him the model shif would be the 12Z models tommrow.


I don't see a reason why they'd shift back to the west. If anything, they shift even more north and east. It can't avoid the trof.
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952. KimberlyB 1:25 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:



Exactly 4.0

Quoting extreme236:


Needs to be T4.0 for a cane. T5.0 is a cat 2 with 90 knots.


Thanks much.
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953. Dakster 1:26 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting P451:


Sure, but you don't really count all of that. You count the core system.

This isn't a perfect representation but you get the general idea.


I like the graphic and representation. I also agree with you, except I can't seem to find the definition of "Other Crap" as it relates to a Hurricane...
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954. Patrap 1:26 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:


Still a rumor. I sent him an email and he say's that he expects the models to shift to the west when a jet goes into bill to get data.

Sorry for the confusion, but acoording to him the model shif would be the 12Z models tommrow.


The NOAA G-4 Jet dosent fly into a System,..it flys around the periphery of it to sniff the Upper Air Environment and drop Sondes to add to the Computer Runs,..
If one would fly into a Hurricane with a Jet Engine,..it would be a very BAd day.

That's why they us the Turboprop C-130 and P-3 Orion's for Penetration.They can Handle the Rain Rates.
A Jet well,..would Fail from Ingestion of Rain.
And that's a very bad way to Fly.
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955. Stormchaser2007 1:26 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
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956. canesrule1 1:27 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
for the 00z models:

Models have Bill turning much earlier than the 18z models, expect for very few pointing it for a Florida hit, I have noticed the before the curve is expected to take place several reliable models show uncertainty as in they are all over the place.
957. HurricaneKyle 1:27 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


I'm doing good. Yeah I also live in a hurricane free zone, which is nice, but also keeps me more objective in the "wishcasting landfalls" department as I'd have no reason to.


scottsvb has been doing stuff like this all year and last too. Blowing personal blows and calling us all wishcasters, pretty childish.
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958. chevycanes 1:27 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting caneluver:



Wrong

no, he is right.

most of the models take it near or to the east of Bermuda now.

only the UKMET shows it curving later and even that is east of the Bahamas and has been trending to the north with each run.
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959. primez 1:27 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
I still think its way too early to think it will recurve. Just yesterday everyone was so sure Bill was going to go into the caribbean.

We won't know for sure until Bill is really north of the leeward islands.
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961. KimberlyB 1:28 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
DVORAK chart.




Fantastic! That's perfect. It's saved. Thanks.
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962. Dakster 1:28 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Canesrule1 - Did the model suite change? The last one I looked at, NONE of the model showed a Florida landfall..
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963. Stormchaser2007 1:28 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
WNW-NW movement.

Watch out Bermuda lol

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964. homegirl 1:28 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Soon to be 92L

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966. canesrule1 1:28 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:


Still a rumor. I sent him an email and he say's that he expects the models to shift to the west when a jet goes into bill to get data.

Sorry for the confusion, but acoording to him the model shif would be the 12Z models tommrow.
ok, so at 8AM, ill be watching, ill start posting at around 8AM to 11PM tomorrow, on storm alert.
967. chevycanes 1:29 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
for the 00z models:

Models have Bill turning much earlier than the 18z models, expect for very few pointing it for a Florida hit, I have noticed the before the curve is expected to take place several reliable models show uncertainty as in they are all over the place.

which model points it towards a FL hit? i sure don't see any on the sfwmd site or this site.
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968. scottsvb 1:29 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Another thing...Charley... a few years ago...moved NE across florida in mid August!


Troughs can affect systems down to even 15N this time of year... just matters on the strength of the trough. This trough coming in should reach down to 25N near 75W... anything east of 65N and 20-25N will get pulled N then NE ahead of the Upper Trough!
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969. flstormhog 1:29 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting weathersp:
Claudette should make landfall about 15 Miles east of Destin,Florida...

Maximum winds and surge should impact the towns of:

Dune Allen Beach
Blue Mountain Beach
Grayton Beach
Seagrove Beach
Rosemary Beach
Down to the Walton/ Washington county line

These locations can expect sustained winds of 45 mph with gusts up to 60 mph with a water rise of 3-5 feet.



Since I live in Blue Mountain Beach (BMB), I would like to say one thing......GRRRRRRRR
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970. partylight 1:29 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting weathercrazy40:
here in new engalnd its been so long i dont think a lot of people who live here now have any idea how bad it could be you have many years of tree growth not cleaned out by any big storm so if we ever got hit by a big one people will be learning real fast its not like a noreaster that a day later the roads are cleared im sure for a big one could plan on no electric for days or weeks people would freak
no email no tweet no voicemail ooo god what do we do lololo


For one thing, the ice storm was bad this past winter but, the thing that is scary is no one seems to think a hurricane up here would be that bad. Look back to 1938. The worst is the summer we've had, with all the rains. If a storm makes it here, it won't take long for the soil to overload with water. A lot of homes built in the last 70 years in dumb places may be washed away. These things will happen and have happened, it is just when....
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971. canesrule1 1:30 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
Canesrule1 - Did the model suite change? The last one I looked at, NONE of the model showed a Florida landfall..
only the ERG models have it hitting Florida, btw look at the post above.
972. serialteg 1:30 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting primez:
I still think its way too early to think it will recurve. Just yesterday everyone was so sure Bill was going to go into the caribbean.

We won't know for sure until Bill is really north of the leeward islands.


speaking of generalities...
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973. Patrap 1:30 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    


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975. Stormchaser2007 1:30 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Bills has made its own moisture wall.

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976. weathersp 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


The NOAA G-4 Jet dosent fly into a System,..it flys around the periphery of it to sniff the Upper Air Environment and drop Sondes to add to the Computer Runs,..
If one would fly into a Hurricane with a Jet Engine,..it would be a very BAd day.

That's why they us the Turboprop C-130 and P-3 Orion's for Penetration.They can Handle the Rain Rates.
A Jet well,..would Fail from Ingestion of Rain.
And that's a very bad way to Fly.


Also going over the turbulence at a faster rate would cause structural damage... For a time in the 60's the Hurricane Hunter fleet did include jet aircraft... then quickly disbanded them for the reason above and the G's pulled in the turbulence exceed structural capabilities of the aircraft.
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977. sugarsand 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Claudette should make landfall about 15 Miles east of Destin,Florida...

Maximum winds and surge should impact the towns of:

Dune Allen Beach
Blue Mountain Beach
Grayton Beach
Seagrove Beach
Rosemary Beach
Down to the Walton/ Washington county line

These locations can expect sustained winds of 45 mph with gusts up to 60 mph with a water rise of 3-5 feet.


Where did that statement come from, please?
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978. scottsvb 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Actually there were some like me telling you guys 2 days ago that Bill will probably run into a trough off the east coast... I thought Bill may make 70W but never really threatening anyone but Bermuda or Newfoundland!
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979. drg0dOwnCountry 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
for the 00z models:

Models have Bill turning much earlier than the 18z models, expect for very few pointing it for a Florida hit, I have noticed the before the curve is expected to take place several reliable models show uncertainty as in they are all over the place.

The next hours will be intresting.
The last observation shows a slight northward trend. I think it will depend on bills intensification. If it gets more power than i tend to say it takes a more westward turn ... we will find out.
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980. jipmg 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
only the ERG models have it hitting Florida, btw look at the post above.


oh so those are the 8pm models..

but there are two troughs though, if one comes down and it breaks through it, the next one is expected to be HUGE ..
981. wunderkidcayman 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
guys convection is still increasing in ANA COC
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982. futuremet 1:31 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
CCHS, this map indicates that the ECMWF and the GFS have just backed off on the trof a tad bit...tad bit. However, I need to see consistency for three runs to conclude a pattern.

GFS-ECMWF 00Z



GFS-ECMWF 12Z

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983. Stormchaser2007 1:32 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting homegirl:
Soon to be 92L



Eh...I dont think it will amount to much.
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984. canesrule1 1:32 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting chevycanes:

which model points it towards a FL hit? i sure don't see any on the sfwmd site or this site.
ERG models
985. weathersp 1:32 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
WNW-NW movement.

Watch out Bermuda lol



Spread is not a good thing..
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986. scla08 1:32 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
I believe that bill may be attempting to form an eye according to the latest satellite image. Anyone else see it?

Link
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987. serialteg 1:33 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
Canesrule1 - Did the model suite change? The last one I looked at, NONE of the model showed a Florida landfall..


they all did a few days back... into the gom, conus, everywhere but antartica and guam

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988. szqrn1 1:33 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Pat.. which way is Claudette going now?
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991. StormFreakyisher 1:34 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Models have seemed to spread out a bit then the earlier models.Some models are creeping a little more towards the west but still makes a curve.
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992. Stormchaser2007 1:34 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting scla08:
I believe that bill may be attempting to form an eye according to the latest satellite image. Anyone else see it?

Link


Microwave images and MIMIC dont show anything. Give it 6 hours.

Im out.
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993. canesrule1 1:34 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting jipmg:


oh so those are the 8pm models..

but there are two troughs though, if one comes down and it breaks through it, the next one is expected to be HUGE ..
yup
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

The next hours will be intresting.
The last observation shows a slight northward trend. I think it will depend on bills intensification. If it gets more power than i tend to say it takes a more westward turn ... we will find out.
i agree with u
994. WPBHurricane05 1:34 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
WNW-NW movement.

Watch out Bermuda lol



But the purple model has it heading for S. Florida.

Yeah, I know...XTRP not a model, blah blah blah.
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995. tropics21 1:35 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:


Still a rumor. I sent him an email and he say's that he expects the models to shift to the west when a jet goes into bill to get data.

Sorry for the confusion, but acoording to him the model shif would be the 12Z models tommrow.
Jets don't fly into hurricanes they use Turbo Props they need the slower speed to drop launch the instrument packages and Get Readings to relay to NHC
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996. Stormchaser2007 1:35 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:


But the purple model has it heading for S. Florida.

Yeah, I know...XTRP not a model, blah blah blah.


LOL

I was waiting for that.
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997. weathersp 1:35 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting sugarsand:
Claudette should make landfall about 15 Miles east of Destin,Florida...

Maximum winds and surge should impact the towns of:

Dune Allen Beach
Blue Mountain Beach
Grayton Beach
Seagrove Beach
Rosemary Beach
Down to the Walton/ Washington county line

These locations can expect sustained winds of 45 mph with gusts up to 60 mph with a water rise of 3-5 feet.


Where did that statement come from, please?


Its not an offical statment...

I made it based off of the NHC predictions and current radar and Doppler Velocity readings.
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998. extreme236 1:36 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
It almost looks as though Bill is shedding those extra long convective bands on the south side as they appear to be weakening, in favor of more consolidated ones.
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999. Patrap 1:36 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Looks like Nw at 10-12 mph


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1000. canesrule1 1:36 AM GMT on August 17, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:


But the purple model has it heading for S. Florida.

Yeah, I know...XTRP not a model, blah blah blah.
ERG models take it to Florida and that's it

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