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Tropical Storm Danny not impressive yet
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:19 PM GMT on August 26, 2009 +2
Tropical Storm Danny is here, born from an African tropical wave that developed a closed circulation and some respectable heavy thunderstorm activity this morning. Data between 2 - 3 pm EDT from the Hurricane Hunters indicates the Danny has a central pressure of 1009 mb, and top surface winds of about 45 mph. Satellite imagery shows that Danny's circulation has gotten stretched and pulled away from the heaviest thunderstorm activity on the storm's east side. It is possible that Danny's center will reform at a different location, closer to the heaviest thunderstorms, so the model forecasts probably have a higher degree of uncertainty than usual at present. Wind shear has dropped to the low range, 5 - 10 knots. The upper-level low Danny is moving underneath has plenty of dry air in it, and this dry air is intruding into Danny's west side, keeping and heavy thunderstorm activity from developing on that side.


Figure 1. Oceanic heat content for August 25, 2009. Regions where the Sea Surface Temperature is below 80°F, or where the shallow waters of the Continental Shelf lie, do not have enough heat content to be plotted, and are shown in white colors. The oceanic heat content along the track of Tropical Storm Danny is below the threshold of 90 kJ/cm^2 typically seen with cases of rapid intensification. The storm position at 8am EDT today is given by the hurricane symbol with the "0" inside it. Subsequent hurricane symbols show the official NHC forecast points from the 11 am EDT forecast today, for 8am Thursday (24 hours), 8am Friday (48 hours), 8am Saturday (72 hours), and 8am Sunday (72 hours). The cold waters stirred up by Hurricane Bill last week will not impact Tropical Storm Danny. Image credit: RSMAS, University of Miami.

The forecast for Danny
As Danny continues to plow through the upper low, the low will weaken, but will dump dry air into the storm through Thursday afternoon, slowing down development. By Thursday night, when Danny should be several hundred miles off the coast of northern Florida, the upper-level low may be weak enough and far enough away that Danny will find itself in a region with light upper level anticyclonic winds, which would favor more rapid development. Ocean heat content (Figure 1) is high enough to support a hurricane, until Danny gets to about New Jersey's latitude. Most of the intensity models, including the GFDL, HWRF, and SHIPS model, forecast that Danny will become a hurricane by Friday. However, this favorable environment will not last long, since a strong trough of low pressure will be approaching the U.S. East Coast on Friday. This trough will bring high wind shear of 20 - 30 knots by Friday night. This trough should be strong enough to turn Danny to the north, then northeast on Saturday. The models have come into better agreement keeping Danny offshore as it passes North Carolina, though the storm is certainly capable of giving the Outer Banks a direct hit. As Danny passes North Carolina, it should start heading north-northeast, with a landfall likely Saturday afternoon or evening somewhere between Massachusetts and Nova Scotia. At that time, Danny is likely to be a strong tropical storm or weak Category 1 hurricane, with winds in the 55 - 80 mph range. The latest runs of the GFDL and GFS model have Danny tracking directly over Martha's Vineyard, where President Obama is on vacation. It will be interesting to see if the president stays on the island for Danny.

For those of you wondering about specific probabilities of getting tropical storm force or hurricane force winds, consult the NHC Wind Probability Product.


Figure 2. Tropical wave newly emerged from the coast of Africa, with some potential for development.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
A well-organized tropical wave has exited the coast of Africa, and lies a few hundred miles southeast of the Cape Verdes Islands. None of the models are gung-ho about developing this wave, but shear is low, 10 knots, and waters are warm enough to support development. The dry Saharan Air Layer is relatively limited in extent and intensity, so dry air may have only a small inhibiting effect on the wave. Expect some slow development of this wave as it moves westward over the next few days. NHC is giving this system a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Friday afternoon.

I'll have an update Thursday.

Jeff Masters
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851. BahaHurican 2:04 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
what area in the sw Caribbean ? I don't see anything there.
stormpetrel keeps drawing our attention back to the area around Honduras, which he thinks might make something of itself. There is a precip. bulge in the MIMIC imagery in the area, mind u.
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853. tornadodude 2:05 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

thanks we need spell cheack on the blogs lol


mine has spell check......
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854. winter123 2:05 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

all 50 states


lol no i just looked it up. its CONtinental US, 48 states. What a dumb term because obviously a TS in the atlantic will not hit alaska or hawaii. Just say US.
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855. JLPR 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:
quick question why i almost no-one posting and their is a storm near the us this is gotta be a prank


nope
Danny looks sick, maybe if it looked better =P
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857. stormwatcherCI 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good evening all!

I thought I might be able to post an update tonight...however, I've been out most of the eve dealing with my son's medical issues.

I'll have an update tomorrow morning, late.

Have a great evening!

"Storm"
Hope all is well. I think your son takes priority over Danny and whatever else might be out there.
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858. BDADUDE 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Can someone tell me what a troll is??
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859. JLPR 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting winter123:


lol no i just looked it up. its CONtinental US, 48 states. What a dumb term because obviously a TS in the atlantic will not hit alaska or hawaii. Just say US.


that is what I was thinking
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860. extreme236 2:07 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

thanks we need spell cheack on the blogs lol


Thats the beauty of firefox
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861. mossyhead 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
WoW.. While I was in search of the time zone for the Cape Verde Islands area, I found out how humid that place is lol. Right now according to TWC the humidity is at 88%! by the capital of praia. I would dread living there.
Ike and me live in the panhandle of florida and during the summer we get 80 to 99 percent humidity almost everyday.
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862. stormwatcherCI 2:06 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


mine has spell check......
Mine too.
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863. WeatherMSK 2:07 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
You are wrong. How can it be all 50 states if Hawaii is not part on the Continent. You see, it is not nice to play high and mighty when you can be wrong too.


Ha ha ha....i was going to say the same thing.
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865. BDADUDE 2:07 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
I believe that people should not use the term conus as it is very misleading!!
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866. tropicfreak 2:07 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:
quick question why i almost no-one posting and their is a storm near the us this is gotta be a prank


It is odd. In june the blog clogged up all because of a sickly invest that had a yellow circle in unfavorable conditions. 93L I believe it was.
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867. chucky7777 2:08 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
does the conus include florida??
No Florida includes the conus,Seriously to answer your question Yes Florida is included I think Hawaii and Alaska are on their own..........just my opinion....
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869. GatorWX 2:08 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i got to ask why in your picture does your brain looks smaller than your face


lol
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872. BahaHurican 2:09 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Hey, just about anything can be 1) googled and 2)wikied. To wit:

CONUS
CONUS is a technical term used by the U.S. Military which is specifically defined as the 48 contiguous states, but is silent on the District of Columbia.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiguous_United_States

And it is CONTIGUOUS, as in the states that all touch each other, so Florida is definitely one. Alaska, Hawaii, PR, Guam, are not part of CONUS.
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873. wakd3Xn04 2:09 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
does the conus include florida??
Only north of Palm Beach County. Anything south of there requires a passport to get in.
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874. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:10 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
Can someone tell me what a troll is??


a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion which at the moment you could be doing
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876. AllStar17 2:10 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good evening all!

I thought I might be able to post an update tonight...however, I've been out most of the eve dealing with my son's medical issues.

I'll have an update tomorrow morning, late.

Have a great evening!

"Storm"


Hope your son gets better real soon!!!

Have a good evening, Storm.
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877. tropicfreak 2:10 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

it will get crazy again once the invest is declared near the cv islands


I don't know. When claudette made landfall on the FL panhandle this blog wasn't clogged. I could be wrong but not sure.
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878. WeatherMSK 2:10 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Is it just me or does it seem like the weather channel track cone is way too far east? That cone is shown as if this thing is moving northwest as we "blog".
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879. GatorWX 2:11 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting JLPR:


pre-Danny looked like it had a llc plus it was closer to land when it got a red circle


well our wave in the e atl has a near complete llc but I see your point on the close to land part.
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881. BDADUDE 2:11 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting wakd3Xn04:
Only north of Palm Beach County. Anything south of there requires a passport to get in.

The keys are joined by bridges. Does this mean that they are not included in the conus??
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882. atmoaggie 2:12 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
WoW.. While I was in search of the time zone for the Cape Verde Islands area, I found out how humid that place is lol. Right now according to TWC the humidity is at 88%! by the capital of praia. I would dread living there.

In the middle of the night our RH is near 100% in SE LA...almost every night. You don't get dew where you live?
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883. amd 2:13 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
not sure if this matters, but another center with tropical storm Danny may be forming around 26.6 N 70.5 W.

This is according to the latest NOAA recon plane which shows a wind shift from wsw to ene as the plane traveled from 26.3 n 70.2 w to 26.7 n 70.8w.
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885. stormwatcherCI 2:13 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

"claps hands"
serously that is a Great question
do some resarch and find out
Not really a great question as the Keys are still Florida.
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886. tornadodude 2:14 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting wakd3Xn04:
Only north of Palm Beach County. Anything south of there requires a passport to get in.


oh my haha
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887. BDADUDE 2:14 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
ty gatekeeper. What am i doing wrong?? Im asking questions about things that i see every day on this site and would just like to know if people know the meaning. I mean no harm.
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888. BtnTx 2:14 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
I am glad I don't use Firefox so I don't have to worship it. Google Chrome does very good for me no worries
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889. Drakoen 2:14 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
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890. tropicfreak 2:14 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

idk future 94l look like it have the potental to be somthing big


Maybe. Conditions way down the road appear favorable for a hurricane to make landfall on the CONUS. Oops was it wrong to say conus. LOL.
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891. 900MB 2:15 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
Good evening all!

I thought I might be able to post an update tonight...however, I've been out most of the eve dealing with my son's medical issues.

I'll have an update tomorrow morning, late.

Have a great evening!

"Storm"


Praying all get well soon!
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892. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:16 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
ty gatekeeper. What am i doing wrong?? Im asking questions about things that i see every day on this site and would just like to know if people know the meaning. I mean no harm.
doing nothing wrong its all good
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893. 900MB 2:17 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:




Looks pretty robust!
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896. BahaHurican 2:19 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
I seriously doubt BDAdude is trolling. Don't forget some things we take for granted knowledge-wise are not so obvious to people who haven't been using them for ages like the rest of us. I know it took me a long time to figure out what CONUS was, myself, and I only did 'cause everybody was using the NRL (Navy) site so much at the time.

Someone said it well earlier. Most people are here to learn and understand. Let's not allow the REAL trolls to cause us to mistreat others with a genuine interest.
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897. tropicfreak 2:20 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting wakd3Xn04:
Only north of Palm Beach County. Anything south of there requires a passport to get in.


LOL LOL. I almost fell out of my chair that is so funny.
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898. tornadodude 2:22 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
ty gatekeeper. What am i doing wrong?? Im asking questions about things that i see every day on this site and would just like to know if people know the meaning. I mean no harm.


youre fine, really, just some people act like they know everything and put people down when they ask "silly" questions. i ask everyone on here to please have some patience. this blog is a great place to learn a lot of fascinating things about weather, and more specifically, the tropics. we all should be willing to answer questions to the best of our ability and in a pleasant manner. sorry if it seems like i am ranting, but i just get tired of people putting others down because of their questions, regardless of how stupid a question may seem.
thanks,
-Matt
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899. VAbeachhurricanes 2:20 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting Vortex95:


Reported


thanks for sharing...
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900. CatastrophicDL 2:20 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting BDADUDE:
ty gatekeeper. What am i doing wrong?? Im asking questions about things that i see every day on this site and would just like to know if people know the meaning. I mean no harm.

Just keep asking questions. Sometimes it may take asking them more than once. But if someone wants to ridicule you then they have the maturity issues not you. I found I was able to Google a lot of meteorological info too, including abbreviations. Just keep learning :o)
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901. jaxairportman 2:21 AM GMT on August 27, 2009    
Quoting wakd3Xn04:
Only north of Palm Beach County. Anything south of there requires a passport to get in.
Gee I don't remember needing one in Miami,Ft. lauderdale,Hollywood,Key Largo.

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