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Unusually well-organized 92L disturbance may become a tropical depression
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:14 PM GMT on June 14, 2010 +3
Invest 92L, a remarkably well-developed African tropical wave for so early in the season, is midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. Infrared satellite loops show a modest area of heavy thunderstorms along the north side of 92L's center of circulation, and the storm's heavy thunderstorms activity appears to be slowly increasing in intensity and areal coverage. Upper-level outflow is apparent to the west and north of 92L, and the outflow has been gradually improving this morning. Visible satellite loops do not show much in the way of low-level spiral bands, and my current take from the satellite imagery is that 92L is slowly organizing, and will not become a tropical depression any earlier than 11pm EDT tonight (Monday.) A 4:27 am EDT pass from the WINDSAT satellite saw a partially closed circulation at the surface (open on the south side), with top surface winds of 25 - 30 mph north of the center.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L (left side of image) and a vigorous new tropical wave that has moved off the coast of Africa (right side.) None of models develop the new tropical wave, but it bears watching.

Sea surface temperatures
Climatology argues against development of 92L, since only one named storm has ever formed between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands in the month of June--Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 (Figure 2). However, sea surface temperatures (SSTs) underneath 92L are an extremely high 28°C, and will increase to 29°C by Thursday. In fact, with summer not even here, and three more months of heating remaining until we reach peak SSTs in the Atlantic, ocean temperatures across the entire Caribbean and waters between Africa and the Lesser Antilles are about the same as they were during the peak week for water temperatures in 2009 (mid-September.)

Dry air not a problem for 92L until Wednesday
The disturbance doesn't have to worry about dry air today or Tuesday--Total Precipitable Water (TPW) loops show a very moist plume of air accompanies 92L, and water vapor satellite loops show that the center of 92L is at least 200 - 300 miles from any substantial areas of dry air. As 92L continues to push northwest, though, the SHIPS model is predicting that relative humidity at middle levels of the atmosphere will fall from the current value of about 70%, to 60% on Wednesday. This dry air may begin to cause problems for 92L on Wednesday, especially since wind shear will be increasing at the same time. Tropical cyclones are more vulnerable to dry air when there is substantial wind shear, since the strong winds causing the shear are able to inject the dry air deep into the core of the storm.

Madden-Julian Oscillation
The 60-day cycle of enhanced thunderstorm activity called the Madden-Julian Oscillation is currently favoring upward motion over eastern tropical Atlantic, and this enhanced upward motion helps create stronger updrafts and higher chances of tropical cyclone development.


Figure 2. Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 was the only June named storm on record to form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Wind shear
A major issue for 92L, like it is for most June disturbances, is wind shear. The subtropical jet stream has a branch flowing through the Caribbean and tropical Atlantic north of 10° N that is bringing 20 - 40 knots of wind shear to the region. Our disturbance was located near 10°N, 40°W at 8am EDT this morning, a few hundred miles south of this band of high shear, and is currently only experiencing 5 - 10 knots of shear. This low amount of shear should allow for some steady development of 92L over the next two days as it tracks west-northwest or northwest at 15 mph. The latest run of the SHIPS model is predicting the shear will rise to 20 knots on Wednesday, which may start to cause problems for 92L.

The forecast for 92L
The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a high (60% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. The odds of development have increased since yesterday, as the storm has moved considerably to the northwest, away from the Equator. Now it can leverage the Earth's spin to a much greater degree to help get it get spinning. It is quite unusual for a tropical depression to form south of 8°N latitude.

I expect that 92L's best chance to become a tropical depression will come on Tuesday, and the storm could strengthen enough by Wednesday to be named Tropical Storm Alex. The farther south 92L stays, the better chance it has at survival. With the system's steady west-northwest movement this week, 92L will probably begin encountering hostile wind shear in excess of 20 knots by Wednesday, which should interfere with continued development. Several of our reliable models do develop 92L into a tropical storm with 40 - 55 mph winds, but all of the models foresee weakening by Thursday or Friday as 92L approaches the Lesser Antilles Islands and encounters high shear and dry air. I doubt 92L will be anything stronger than a 45 mph tropical storm when it moves through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands on Friday and Saturday, and it would be no surprise if wind shear has destroyed the storm by then. However, as usual, surprises can happen, and the GFS and the SHIPS model (which is based upon the GFS) do indicate that more modest levels of wind shear in the 15 - 20 mph range late this week may allow 92L to stay stronger than I'm expecting. Residents of the islands--particularly the northern Lesser Antilles--should follow the progress of 92L closely, and anticipate heavy rains and high winds moving through the islands as early as Thursday night.

Oil spill wind forecast
There is little change to the oil spill wind forecast for the coming two weeks. Light winds of 5 - 10 knots mostly out of the south or southeast will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico all week, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. These winds will keep oil near the coast of Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and the extreme western Florida Panhandle, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

Jeff Masters
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2201. SouthALWX 2:52 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Im with Levi here ... there was as much evidence for a closed low as you can expect to get from a TD. just wait til it hits that strong shear and the top gets ripped off... you'll see that naked swirl and go "Oh look .. it DID" LOL
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2202. Orcasystems 2:52 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
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2203. aspectre 2:53 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
558 GTcooliebai "Do ppl actually eat crow on here?"

Not me. I never eat anything more intelligent than I am.
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2204. kmanislander 2:53 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
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2205. MiamiHurricanes09 2:53 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Surfcropper:
Canes09 are you Brian Osburn?
I've been blogging way before Oz got banned, and no I'm not Brian.
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2206. Levi32 2:53 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I looked at a lot of loops and stills today but one thing I have learned over the years is that a satellite image does not confirm a closed surface low. Go back into the archives and look at pre Dolly that had TS force winds, looked like a TS but did not have a closed low.

The winds you were seeing could just as easily have been at the mid levels.

Believe what you want but show me precisely where this ever had a closed low.


Yesterday's ASCAT pass: Closed.



Pretty obviously closed on visible today....

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2207. Orcasystems 2:53 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
I can't believe the NHC site just doesn't have a live feed (like a twitter feed) of the comments here.

What a colossal waste of taxpayer dollars to have all those educated-types down there when the WU is free!


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2209. wfyweather 2:54 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting SouthALWX:
Im with Levi here ... there was as much evidence for a closed low as you can expect to get from a TD. just wait til it hits that strong shear and the top gets ripped off... you'll see that naked swirl and go "Oh look .. it DID" LOL


LOL
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2210. Grothar 2:54 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
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2211. tropicaltank 2:54 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
IMO, already a TD.
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2213. stormpetrol 2:55 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
92L is looking good tonight,TD or TS tomorrow if this trend continues in my opinion.
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2214. Levi32 2:55 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Yesterday's ASCAT pass: Closed.



Pretty obviously closed on visible today....



Visible loop won't post....will get it up in a sec
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2215. wfyweather 2:55 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


Why is everyone showin this, its just a flare up of convection.
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2216. MiamiHurricanes09 2:55 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting aspectre:
558 GTcooliebai "Do ppl actually eat crow on here?"

Not me. I never eat anything more intelligent than I am.
You do understand that you called a crow more "intelligent" that yourself. At that pace you will be eating rocks let alone "intelligent" vegetables. LOL!
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2218. Ossqss 2:55 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Interesting, BP has purchased Costner's oil centrifuge equipment and we will probably see the Jones act waived tomorrow night. Last time that was waived was 9-01-2005! Finally some effective actions for the clean up effort.......
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2219. xcool 2:56 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    



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2220. Ameister12 2:56 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
I'm listening to the local news and I heard some reports of possible tornadoes near Finneytown and Cheviot.
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2221. kmanislander 2:56 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Yesterday's ASCAT pass: Closed.



Pretty obviously closed on visible today....



Levi,a classification for a TD has more than one objective measurement. If you choose to believe it was and is a TD but for some reason the NHC are deliberately refusing to so classify it then fine. I am sure they would find your opinion of interest.
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2222. MiamiHurricanes09 2:56 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:
92L is looking good tonight,TD or TS tomorrow if this trend continues in my opinion.
I would agree. I think convection needs to consolidate over all four quadrants to make that call but, regardless I do agree.
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2223. CaicosRetiredSailor 2:56 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
OK today

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2224. tropicaltank 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Can somebody explain to me why the Blob entering th GOM is of no interest?
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2225. leo305 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
if it keeps blowing up, they have to classify it as a TD.. I MEAN WHAT ELSE DOES IT NEED TO BE A TD?!!

CLOSED LOW
CONVECTION OVER THE CENTER
PURELY TROPICAL
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2226. JRRP 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
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2227. Levi32 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Yesterday's ASCAT pass: Closed.



Pretty obviously closed on visible today....



Visible Loop....surface southwesterlies pretty evident south of the center. It was not always the tightest circulation in the world, but it was certainly closed. That is not debatable, honestly.

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2228. wfyweather 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


Levi,a classification for a TD has more than one objective measurement. If you choose to believe it was and is a TD but for some reason the NHC are deliberately refusing to so classify it then fine. I am sure they would find your opinion of interest.


c'mon. stop.
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2229. Clearwater1 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/COMPSHEARATL_0z/f36.html

shear forecast 36 hours from now.

Seems to me that 92 is moving due west and surface map maker agrees. So there you have it!
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2230. scott39 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
It looks like the COC of 92L is almost moving due W.
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2231. reedzone 2:57 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Well thats not what I was referring to...

The NHC wont classify the system just because it looks nice due to a diurnal phase. They'll wait at least another 6-12 hours and take it from there like they have been doing for the past 72 hours. Again, if 92L can sustain convection in all quadrants tomorrow, it has a decent shot. If it doesnt do so...it'll probably die out in a few days.

And no one has bashed you. Just having a "debate".


I agree that it will die out, similar pattern to Karens demise in 2007. However, I agree with Levi, this was a TD since this morning, but the convection was not deep enough and the COC was partially closed. A medium chance sounds right for tonight cause it go either go one way or the other.
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2232. hercj 2:58 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I looked at a lot of loops and stills today but one thing I have learned over the years is that a satellite image does not confirm a closed surface low. Go back into the archives and look at pre Dolly that had TS force winds, looked like a TS but did not have a closed low.

The winds you were seeing could just as easily have been at the mid levels.

Believe what you want but show me precisely where this ever had a closed low.

And this is the problem with a storm in the middle of the atlantic. NHC without recon will not classify a TD. If recon goes in and says it they will say. Since this imo Depression is in the middle of the Atlantic they will wait til either they get an aircraft in it or it get strong enough to classify as a TS.
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2235. OneDrop 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Whether it was or wasn't a depression isn't the argument. When a storm, especially the first storm is that far out to sea, does it really matter? The last thing the U.S. needs is the crazy, aggro media thinking a storm is even heading in this direction to start new "what if" scenarios into the Gulf and then a domino effect will start with rising gas prices, falling stock markets, uneasiness in the masses and an overall unstable population in the Southeast which is unneeded right now. I think the NHC knows what they are doing and when long range models were leaning towards 92L's demise anyways what is the difference? Let's start off 2010 in a peaceful fashion. Make waves not war or just go fishing and be thankful for the good weather when you have it and for all storms to head out to sea.
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2236. wfyweather 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
getting colder cloud tops. should only get better overnight as we get into dmax
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2237. MiamiHurricanes09 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Visible Loop....surface southwesterlies pretty evident south of the center. It was not always the tightest circulation in the world, but it was certainly closed. That is not debatable, honestly.

I was about to say, "Look a closed low!", until I read the sentence above it.
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2238. Grothar 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting wfyweather:


Why is everyone showin this, its just a flare up of convection.


The colors are nice.
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2239. Levi32 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


Levi,a classification for a TD has more than one objective measurement. If you choose to believe it was and is a TD but for some reason the NHC are deliberately refusing to so classify it then fine. I am sure they would find your opinion of interest.


I wish people would stop playing the NHC card. I could care less what they think. It is a fact that they are ultra-conservative with events that take place outside of climatology. This is a potentially historic storm that they will be epically hesitant to classify.

It's been a convection argument this whole time, not a matter of closed circulation. A TD doesn't need a CDO, which is a feature of a 50+ knot TS and above. It had more than enough banded convective organization yesterday and certainly last night when it bursted. Try to forget the NHC's opinion and look at a satellite loop of the Atlantic, and tell me what you see doesn't look like a tropical cyclone out there.
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2240. ElConando 2:59 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
It looks like the COC of 92L is almost moving due W.


I see it moving SSW.
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2241. kmanislander 3:00 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Levi, the floor is yours.
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2242. LongGlassTube 3:00 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
My first cell phone in 1990 came in a huge leather bag. It included a lead acid battery and a 4 foot whip antenna. Laugh all you want but that baby a Motorola Bag Phone could carry a signal for nearly 100 miles on a good day. Today I can't always connect to towers that I can see the phones are so weak. We called them car phones back then. We actually considered ourselves elite to have one back then. What a joke.



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You mean cell phones??.Becuase when my grandmother showed me hers I laughed.
Link
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2243. MiamiHurricanes09 3:00 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Miami hurricanes work twards your futuer.Your the only one that can save the nch from all this conservative crap.
Lol, yeah you wouldn't want me as chief of the NHC. 92L would of been a TS already, 90L would of been an STS, and 91L would've been a TD.
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2244. MZV 3:00 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
People are never satisfied. Complaints now are about NHC being too cautious. But I remember complaints in 2005 that they were too trigger-happy to name storms that barely qualified.... using up letters quickly and pushing into the "Greek Zone"
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2245. MiamiHurricanes09 3:01 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:
Levi, the floor is yours.
Good night Kman!
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2247. taco2me61 3:02 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting tropicaltank:
Can somebody explain to me why the Blob entering th GOM is of no interest?
its a Upper Level Low just from what I'm seeing...

Taco :o)
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2248. Levi32 3:02 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Loop this and think to yourself what your first guess would be as to what this feature is east of the islands if you had no prior knowledge of what the situation in the Atlantic was. First thing that comes to mind? For most experienced people that looks like a tropical cyclone that is struggling to maintain deep convection.
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2249. wunderkidcayman 3:02 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
hey guys if you look at the last surface map and now that tropical wave in BOC/E PAC it moving backwards/eastward
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2250. scott39 3:02 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


I see it moving SSW.
Its going to take its new convection and make a run for the Carribean!
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2251. wfyweather 3:02 AM GMT on June 15, 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


I see it moving SSW.


I still see wnw but quickly transitioning west
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