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Tropical wave 92L weakens but could bring heavy rains to Haiti
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:23 PM GMT on June 20, 2010 +3
The tropical wave (92L) that brought heavy rains of 2 - 5 inches to Puerto Rico on Saturday is continuing westward at 10 - 15 mph, but has grown very disorganized. The National Hurricane Center is no longer interested enough in this wave to classify it as an "invest" worthy of generating computer forecasts for. Today through Monday, 92L will encounter 20 - 40 knots of wind shear as it plows though a region of strong upper-level winds associated with the subtropical jet stream. The disturbance will also encounter the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola and Cuba. If there is anything left of 92L after crossing these mountains, it may have the opportunity to develop beginning on Tuesday, when it will enter a region of wind shear less than 20 knots near central Cuba. None of our reliable computer forecast models is calling for 92L to develop once it reaches this region of lower wind shear. I give 92L a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday. The storm could bring heavy rains of up to four inches to Haiti today and Monday. Rain of four inches are probably the lower threshold for life-threatening floods to occur in the Haiti earthquake zone, and this disturbance poses the most serious flooding threat Haiti has seen since the earthquake.


Figure 1. Radar estimated rainfall over Puerto Rico from Invest 92L.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS and ECMWF models call for a possible tropical depression to form in the central or western Caribbean next weekend, 6 - 8 days from now.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
Southeast to east winds less than 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico Monday through Thursday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The resulting weak ocean currents should cause little motion of the oil slick, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range outlook calls for a continued summertime weather pattern of weak winds over the Gulf of Mexico during the coming two weeks.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument of the Deepwater Horizon oil slick from Saturday, June 19, 2010.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Happy Father's Day, all you fathers out there, and I'll have an update on Monday.

Jeff Masters
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103. bappit 4:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting cg2916:


Except strong wave train and boiling SSTs.


What wave train and are the SST's actually boiling? Y'all watch too much cable news.
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104. watchingnva 4:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:

Why would one cheer for that?


i was wondering the same thing...

its fun to watch hurricanes on sat, and watch the life cycles...but to beg for conditions to be perfect for major storms to watch is ridiculous...lol...thats when time needs to be taken to find additional hobbies...pick up a new instrument?...lol...

personally id prefer a handful of "fish storms" and a few weak rain producers...sounds like a good season to me...lol

anyways, hows everyone doing today?

happy fathers day to all the others dads on here...my little one woke me with a few swift kicks in the lower back this morning...lmao.
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106. Levi32 4:12 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Good morning all. And Happy Father's day to all the Papa's out there!
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107. weatherwatcher12 4:12 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
People were hyping this season.Talking about this was going to be a record season,yeah right.This season is going to be just like the last season's.Wasn't this suppose to be a record season.i don't think so.Where's alex.Didn't every hyperactive season have a name storm in june.14 storms is my forecast.2010 maybe the year of bigg sst but not storms.

No not every one did.
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108. MiamiHurricanes09 4:13 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning all.
Good afternoon Levi! As you noticed 92L was deactivated.
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110. Levi32 4:14 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Good afternoon Levi! As you noticed 92L was deactivated.


Hey MH01. Yeah....still being mentioned on the TWO though which is interesting. They are probably still watching it for trouble down the road.
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111. MiamiHurricanes09 4:15 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

No not every one did.
What post number was that?
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112. Levi32 4:17 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Well....the CIMSS 850mb vorticity map is just plain wrong. The wave axis of ex-92L never dissipated. There are in fact, two very pronounced vort maxes along the wave axis, one east of Jamaica and one south of Haiti. 92L's surface structure isn't gone....not sure why CIMSS is showing no vorticity. It looks exactly the same as yesterday when it still had oranges on the vorticity map.

Loop to see better



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113. weatherwatcher12 4:17 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
What post number was that?

Do you mean year?
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114. MiamiHurricanes09 4:18 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Hey MH01. Yeah....still being mentioned on the TWO though which is interesting. They are probably still watching it for trouble down the road.
It could be trouble down the road if i survives the hefty upper level winds, dry air, and possible land interaction. IMO, the NHC is just watching it due to the nasty downpours it is causing to the Caribbean islands.
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115. taco2me61 4:18 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting watchingnva:


i was wondering the same thing...

its fun to watch hurricanes on sat, and watch the life cycles...but to beg for conditions to be perfect for major storms to watch is ridiculous...lol...thats when time needs to be taken to find additional hobbies...pick up a new instrument?...lol...

personally id prefer a handful of "fish storms" and a few weak rain producers...sounds like a good season to me...lol

anyways, hows everyone doing today?

happy fathers day to all the others dads on here...my little one woke me with a few swift kicks in the lower back this morning...lmao.
I agree with this and Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads out there...

Taco :o)
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116. MiamiHurricanes09 4:19 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

Do you mean year?
No, what post number was the baltimorebirds one so I can respond.
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117. bappit 4:19 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:

Arianna Huffington: Sunday Roundup

Tough to say who needs remedial PR training more, BP chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg, who this week referred to those affected by the Gulf catastrophe as "the small people" or Texas Rep.
Joe Barton who used a high-profile hearing on the Hill to apologize to BP and accuse the White House of subjecting the company to "a shakedown." Svanberg quickly went into contrition mode, blaming his tone-deaf remark on a "slip in translation" (he's Swedish).
Under pressure, Barton, who owns a natural gas well and has received nearly $1.5 million from oil and gas industry donors, apologized for his apology, saying:

"If anything I've said this morning has been misconstrued... I want to apologize for that misconstruction."

He should apologize for that sentence. Then, as penance, both men should translate their regret into reparations, contributing a big amount to "the small people" devastated by the disaster.


Barton is unbelievable. He went on and on about how low down and mean the White House scoundrels had been and then has the nerve to say his comments were misconstrued. What an #$%*#($*!
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118. MiamiHurricanes09 4:19 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Oh yes. Happy Fathers day to all the fathers out there!
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120. weatherwatcher12 4:20 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
No, what post number was the baltimorebirds one so I can respond.

Oh, 102
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121. bappit 4:22 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Hey MH01. Yeah....still being mentioned on the TWO though which is interesting. They are probably still watching it for trouble down the road.


Yeah, might start some tropical mischief. Don't want that, no way, uh uh.
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122. Kearn 4:22 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
As I previously said, 92L won't last long. It has lost most of its heavy convection and very few thunderstorms remain, and the circulation and bands are nowhere to be found. When and IF this thing gets to Cuba, it will be destroyed from the mountains.
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123. watchingnva 4:23 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

No not every one did.


personally, you gotta take all predictions with a grain of salt. just because a previous handful of seasons had similar setups does not mean your gonna have a copycat season. everyone on here knows that it takes many factors to be just right for activity to pop up, let alone have a hyperactive season.

lets track stuff when it develops and enjoy it when it does happen...and hope minimum harm is done anywhere...i think its amazing to watch a powerful cat 5 develop and mature, they are a beautiful freak of nature. I however feel the complete opposite when that storm comes ashore killing, destroying, etc...

so as i said...fish storms and rain producers...lol
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124. Levi32 4:23 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting bappit:


Yeah, might start some tropical mischief. Don't want that, no way, uh uh.


Lol.
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126. all4hurricanes 4:24 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Something will develop this weekend I think a computer model band-wagon is starting and I'm away at camp without internet access so basically something has to form then
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128. bappit 4:25 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
No, what post number was the baltimorebirds one so I can respond.


I think you are taking the bait.
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130. kmanhurricaneman 4:26 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
i see that some of us is still fologging a dead horse with 92L, wow you guys are relentless like 92L give it man it's dead ripped to schreads, done -kaput -fini-zilch- nada-mash up-wrecked cant come back gone, ok lets move on to something else, such as what in the world is that large haze circ coming off africa, is that dust?
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134. weatherwatcher12 4:28 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Yes it was me.But I have proof.You see in the last hyperactive years their was a name storm in june.Usually when their is a name storm in june it shows favorable conditions.

When you look back to seasons in the 1900's you will find some are the complete opposite. Such as 1950. It started on August 12th and produced 13 storms, 11 hurricanes and 8 majors. This season also included Hurricane Dog which was a 185 mph hurricane.
Just goes to show that anything can happen.
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135. MiamiHurricanes09 4:28 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
People were hyping this season.Talking about this was going to be a record season,yeah right.This season is going to be just like the last season's.Wasn't this suppose to be a record season.i don't think so.Where's alex.Didn't every hyperactive season have a name storm in june.14 storms is my forecast.2010 maybe the year of bigg sst but not storms.
I have already corrected you endless times and so it has gotten frustrating to respond to posts like this but I am going to respond to one thing you were utterly wrong. Not every hyperactive season had 1 named storm in June.

1998: First named storm developed on July 27, 1998.

1955: First named storm developed on July 31, 1955.

1961: First named storm developed on July 20, 1961.

2004: First named storm developed on July 31, 2004.

1950: (Season with the record for most major hurricanes, 8) First named storm developed on August 12, 1950.

Please stop making those types of posts unless you are "debby", lol.
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136. sarahjola 4:29 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
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but it has lasted a long time and i am still watching it.
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137. MyrtleCanes 4:29 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
People were hyping this season.Talking about this was going to be a record season,yeah right.This season is going to be just like the last season's.Wasn't this suppose to be a record season.i don't think so.Where's alex.Didn't every hyperactive season have a name storm in june.14 storms is my forecast.2010 maybe the year of bigg sst but not storms.


Junior stuff it, read more post less. These assumptions and opinions you have have no scientific merit what so ever. Just stop
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138. MiamiHurricanes09 4:29 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Yes it was me.But I have proof.You see in the last hyperactive years their was a name storm in june.Usually when their is a name storm in june it shows favorable conditions.
You just don't have a clue about what you are talking about, huh?
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140. pottery 4:31 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
How 'bout dem KIWI's!

Good Fighting Spirit.
The 'Big Guns' from Europe are being zonked by south American, Central American, Pacific and Near East teams.
France, Germany, England, Spain, Italy all look mediocre.

Going to be some surprises by the end of this Group Stage for sure!
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141. MiamiHurricanes09 4:31 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
I thought sal wasn't suppose to be a problom this year???.What happened.I'm tired of hearing the excuse it's june.
Oh it isn't, you just have to wait for the Gulf of Guinea to cool a bit more which is already on its way. Would you like me to explain what a cold Gulf of Guinea does to SAL?
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142. weatherwatcher12 4:31 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Please don't compare me to that witch.She sent me a horrable e-mail one day.I had to deleate it.Ahyperactive season to me has 18 storms.That is my opinion however.

Hyperactivity is measured by ACE. Typically a hyperactive season is when the ACE is above 153.
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143. MZV 4:32 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
The fact that 92L came so close to categorization, is still an ominous sign. When Bertha formed in July 2008, there was quite a bit of discussion how that was too "early" for a Cape Verdes style storm. (Y2008 was no slouch, in my opinion. We don't need this to be a 2005 style season for it to be "bad".)
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144. MiamiHurricanes09 4:32 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Please don't compare me to that witch.She sent me a horrable e-mail one day.I had to deleate it.Ahyperactive season to me has 18+ storms.That is my opinion however.
I hyperactive season is not measured in named storms (I myself do not like to classify season by named storms either), it is measured by ACE (accumulated cyclone energy).
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146. bappit 4:33 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Oh it isn't, you just have to wait for the Gulf of Guinea to cool a bit more which is already on its way. Would you like me to explain what a cold Gulf of Guinea does to SAL?


You are getting trolled.
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148. MyrtleCanes 4:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Baltimore Birds = new weather student, JFV, etc
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149. Patrap 4:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
poof..poof..and Das Poof.

LOL
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150. MiamiHurricanes09 4:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
Yes please.
When the Gulf of Guinea cools it causes more precipitation over the Sahel which in turn does to things, lowers SAL and produces more vigorous tropical waves. Levi can explain this better but what I said is what it does.
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151. MiamiHurricanes09 4:36 PM GMT on June 20, 2010    
Quoting bappit:


You are getting trolled.
I'm not familiar with that?
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