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| Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 9:08 AM GMT on July 07, 2010 | +3 |



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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.
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Tropical Tidbit for Wednesday, July 7th, with Video
95L featured a closed LLC regardless of what Dr. Carver said, it was obvious on radar the strong amount of turning and had substantial amount of vort to be considered a closed LLC. They even ran model data on a TD to the models the day 95L hit land, yet the NHC never gave a renumber. If 95L never had a closed LLC, the NHC would never have bumped up the odds so rapidly. That's all I have to say on the subject, personally I'm more concerned about 96L than the NHC not naming a dead invest.
I am assuming your are in the USA. (Some other countries this doesn't apply)
You don't have to agree with anyone, regardless of the letters that follow their name. However, the official historical record is not up to you -
Just like Dr. Carver, all of the forecasters at the NHC, Dr. Masters, Stormw, Levi, W456, etc... do not have to agree with you.
Having said all that, if its looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck...
The message being sent to them is an important one: it is not their place to determine whose inquiry is relevant or "legitimate". Science is about truth and if what you propose is the truth then all inquiries should be welcome and accepted.
atcf changed it back if you go look, no TD for any update now
Chantal 2007
Wilma 2005
Alex 2004
Otto 2004
Erika 2003
Arthur 2002
Dolly 2002
Isidore 2002
Erin 2001
Felix 2001
or does the front rule only apply to developing systems?
I can't, sites not working for me.
AL, 95, 2010070118, , BEST, 0, 306N, 829W, 20, 1009, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070200, , BEST, 0, 304N, 833W, 20, 1009, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070206, , BEST, 0, 302N, 836W, 20, 1009, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070212, , BEST, 0, 298N, 840W, 20, 1015, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070218, , BEST, 0, 292N, 845W, 20, 1015, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070300, , BEST, 0, 288N, 851W, 20, 1013, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070306, , BEST, 0, 282N, 863W, 20, 1013, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070312, , BEST, 0, 278N, 870W, 20, 1013, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070318, , BEST, 0, 276N, 876W, 25, 1013, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070400, , BEST, 0, 275N, 884W, 25, 1011, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070406, , BEST, 0, 273N, 895W, 25, 1011, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070412, , BEST, 0, 272N, 900W, 20, 1011, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070418, , BEST, 0, 274N, 901W, 20, 1012, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070500, , BEST, 0, 277N, 905W, 25, 1011, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070506, , BEST, 0, 281N, 908W, 25, 1010, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070512, , BEST, 0, 284N, 909W, 30, 1009, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070518, , BEST, 0, 287N, 911W, 30, 1008, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070600, , BEST, 0, 290N, 915W, 30, 1008, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070606, , BEST, 0, 296N, 922W, 30, 1008, LO,
AL, 95, 2010070612, , BEST, 0, 303N, 924W, 20, 1009, LO,
before it is all said and done so caution should be used if anyone
is talking about dismissing it.
Granted, it does not look like much but it has a favorable setup
and apparently the mid level circulation is still very intact and soon
it will be moving into an incapsulated low shear enviroment with
clearly noticeable warmer sst's despite the recent upwelling that
occured from Alex.
right now 96L's biggest problem that i see is its rather quick forward
motion which may only give it a small window of opportunity if any
to form and intensify.
Whatever 96L ends up being, it will certainly make the flooding situation down there worse.
It is a debate about a meaningless storm, but it is still spinning in NE Texas.
Well at least I have my own opinion. 95L was about 30 - 35 mph with a 1009 mb "closed low"...albeit very weak.
Not entirely. Not jumping in the 95L debate now, but what if five or 10 people had been killed in flooding from the 15 inches of rain that fell swest of Morgan City? Would have greater awareness been created and saved lives had it been classified as a TD? Maybe. Everyone shares some personal responsibility, first and foremost. But, I don't think it's the role of the NHC is to necessarily "classify" storms as much as it is to help save lives and protect property.
Again, just my two cents. Have a great afternoon, all.
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INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 95, 2010, DB, O, 2010070212, 9999999999, , , , , , WARNING, 2, AL952010
AL, 95, 2010070118, , BEST, 0, 306N, 829W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 95, 2010070200, , BEST, 0, 304N, 833W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 95, 2010070206, , BEST, 0, 302N, 836W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 95, 2010070212, , BEST, 0, 298N, 840W, 20, 1015, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1018, 150, 15, 25, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, D,
AL, 95, 2010070218, , BEST, 0, 292N, 845W, 20, 1015, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1018, 150, 15, 25, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, D,
AL, 95, 2010070300, , BEST, 0, 288N, 851W, 20, 1013, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1016, 130, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 95, 2010070306, , BEST, 0, 282N, 863W, 20, 1013, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 120, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070312, , BEST, 0, 278N, 870W, 20, 1013, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 120, 20, 25, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070318, , BEST, 0, 276N, 876W, 25, 1013, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 120, 20, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070400, , BEST, 0, 275N, 884W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 120, 30, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070406, , BEST, 0, 273N, 895W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 100, 40, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070412, , BEST, 0, 272N, 900W, 20, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 100, 40, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070418, , BEST, 0, 274N, 901W, 20, 1012, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1014, 70, 40, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070500, , BEST, 0, 277N, 905W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 60, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070506, , BEST, 0, 281N, 908W, 25, 1010, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 60, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070512, , BEST, 0, 284N, 909W, 30, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 70, 25, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070518, , BEST, 0, 287N, 911W, 30, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 70, 25, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070600, , BEST, 0, 290N, 915W, 30, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 80, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 95, 2010070606, , BEST, 0, 296N, 922W, 30, 1008, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 95, 2010070612, , BEST, 0, 303N, 924W, 20, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
You like, just killed the blog. Either that or my computer lol
Part of that is deceiving. It's not moving as fast as the flaring convection makes it look like it is.
Yes, they represent the area where the greatest pressure falls are occurring relative to normal.
Thanks NRAamy - That painted a wonderful picture in my mind...
Link
I still think this will get renumbered, but do you think it will have a shot at becoming the B storm, or do you think this is a depression max. I know it's kind of a specific question since the difference between a TD and a weak TS is so little. But what are your thoughts?
To be fair, it was not without good cause. They've been facing a huge storm of people with no credentials in and little familiarity with the science, motivated by blogs and pundits, to try to find fault with global warming. That's something that scientists in other fields don't face. These people usually do lousy analysis, not understanding the most rudimentary aspects of the field, and then publish their un-peer-reviewed "AHA!" all over the net. One of the "Climategate" scientists who was encouraging others to find ways to turn down requests once had his partner sued for fraud by a day trader who fancied himself a climate scientist. So basically they want to work with these people about as much as they want their teeth drilled.
But that said, as you note, it's not their call. They don't get to pick and choose who they consider legitimate. These are the cards you're dealt. If you want to be a scientist in a controversial field, you need to have a thick skin and be willing to put up with this sort of stuff. Evolutionary biologists have been dealing with it for a century and a half.
sorry!!! :)
Thats the top part of the waves that came over us Saturday. The Low off the east coast sucked all the convection north over the weekend. Keeping an eye on it. Some chance of development but it is already re-curving and will head out to sea towards Bermuda. More subtropical than anything
Ugh.. someone pull out "the chart"
10 to 15 mph is a good clip
As for 96L---it will probably be a depression by tonight/tomorrow and move into Brownsville...more rain where they don't need it.
Nvm I found it:
The nerve you have to cloud up the blog with LOGIC lol
I think it has a shot at being classified if it can keep firing convection and ignore the dry air to the west. Whether it would be a TD or TS is iffy because we know that it did have gales in its NE quad while it was in the Caribbean, but the only buoy really near the system is only showing TD-force winds, but then again that's not under a convective band, so it's hard to say what its max winds would be. Either way it wouldn't be more than a weak tropical storm if it does develop before landfall. It has a chance right now but the important thing is that it doesn't have enough time to become a significant threat to life and property. Just a nasty weather-maker for the northern Mexico, south Texas, and Louisiana coastlines.
And pressure anomalies of 6 millibars below normal indicate pressure falls in the area.
Thanks Levi, I really appreciated today's video.
There is no TD watch or warning system, so people should pay attention to local weather advisories for that stuff. If a cold front bring in severe weather came through here in Ohio I don't need any classified system to keep an eye on it.
Things should start to pick back up out in the Tropical East Atlantic later this month. Cape Verde season typically doesn't get cranked up until after July 15. The season I think will still be a very active one.
Sad thing is, people don't. Heck, people are still under the impression that a Category 1 Hurricane is nothing to worry about.. just look at what Katrina did to Miami before it went in the Gulf.
hahahahahahaha!
:)
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