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97L a threat to become a tropical depression on Wednesday
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:31 PM GMT on July 20, 2010 +3
A tropical wave (Invest 97L) near the east coast of Puerto Rico has become more organized overnight and is a threat to develop into a tropical depression as early as Wednesday. The disturbance has brought heavy rains of 8+ inches to Culebra and Vieques islands over the past day (Figure 1), and all of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are under flash flood watches today. The storm could bring an additional 3 - 6 inches of rain to the islands over the next two days. The upper level low centered a few hundred miles north of the Dominican Republic is no longer bringing high levels of wind shear to 97L; wind shear has fallen to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, which may allow 97L to continue to develop today. Satellite images of 97L show a moderate area of disorganized thunderstorms, but no signs of a surface circulation, no low-level spiral banding, and no upper-level outflow. There is a large amount of dry air to the northwest of Puerto Rico that will interfere with development of 97L. Surface observations show only light winds over Puerto Rico, with no signs of a surface circulation. The Hurricane Hunters are on call to investigate 97L this afternoon, if necessary.


Figure 1. Total radar-estimated rainfall from Invest 97L.

Forecast for 97L
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and 97L should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Saturday. The rains from 97L's thunderstorms will bring the threat of flooding to the Dominican Republic today and Wednesday, and to Haiti on Wednesday and Thursday. Heavy rains from 97L will begin moving into eastern Cuba, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the eastern Bahamas on Wednesday, and South Florida can expect heavy rains to arrive as early as Thursday night. We do have several models developing 97L into a tropical depression or tropical storm. The GFS and HWRF both take 97L to tropical storm status over the Bahamas by Thursday, with the storm then tracking over South Florida on Friday and entering the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. The NOGAPS is similar, but portrays a weaker system. All of these models foresee a threat to the oil spill region by Saturday night or Sunday, with the storm making a second landfall somewhere between the Florida Panhandle and Louisiana. One factor potentially aiding the storm will be the Madden-Julian oscillation, which currently favors upward motion over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean. The Madden-Julian oscillation is a pattern of enhanced rainfall that travels along the Equator from west to east. The pattern has a wet phase with large-scale rising air and enhanced thunderstorm activity, followed by a dry phase with large-scale sinking air and suppressed thunderstorm activity. Each cycle lasts approximately 30 - 60 days. When the Madden-Julian oscillation is in its wet phase over a hurricane-prone region, the chances for tropical storm activity are greatly increased. Also in favor of development are the warm ocean temperatures of 29°C. The SHIPS model predicts shear will remain moderate, 10 - 20 knots, over the next 4 - 5 days, and I believe the primary detriment to development of 97L over the next two days will be the presence of dry, stable air in its path over the Bahamas, thanks to the upper-level low to the north of the Dominican Republic. NHC is giving 97L a 40% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday, which is a reasonable forecast. I think there is a 60% chance 97L will eventually become Tropical Storm Bonnie, sometime in the next five days. Sudden rapid development today or on Wednesday is unlikely, due to the dry air over the Bahamas, and I put the odds of 97L making it to hurricane strength before reaching Florida at 10%. There is a better chance that 97L could attain hurricane strength in the Gulf of Mexico, perhaps 20%. These probabilities will depend heavily upon how long 97L (or Bonnie) spends over land or interacting with land over the next four days, which is very uncertain.

Time to cut the forecast numbers for the coming hurricane season?
Here are the number of Atlantic named storms, hurricanes, and intense hurricanes predicted by the various forecast groups in their late May or early June forecasts:

23 named storms: PSU statistical model
20 named storms: UKMET GloSea dynamical model
18.5 named storms, 11 hurricanes, 5 major hurricanes: NOAA hybrid statistical/dynamical model technique
18 named storms, 10 hurricanes, 5 intense hurricanes: CSU statistical model (Phil Klotzbach/Bill Gray)
17.7 named storms, 9.5 hurricanes, 4.4 intense hurricanes: Tropical Storm Risk (TSR), hybrid statistical/dynamical model technique (Note: TSR increased their numbers to 19.1, 10.4, and 4.8 with their July 6 forecast)
17 named storms, 10 hurricanes: FSU dynamical model
10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, 2 intense hurricanes: climatology

The group forecasting the lowest activity was the Florida State University group led by Dr. Tim LaRow. They use a new dynamical forecast model called COAPS, which is funded by a 5-year, $6.2 million grant from NOAA. This year's June forecast by the COAPS model called for 17 named storms and 10 hurricanes. However, Dr. LaRow emailed me yesterday to say that the COAPS model is now calling for reduced activity. Using the state of the atmosphere and ocean as of July 15, a new run of the COAPS model was performed over the weekend. The new forecast is now calling for two fewer hurricanes--a total of 15 named storms and 8 hurricanes (including Alex.) The COAPS model generated an "ensemble" of five different forecasts, done by varying the initial sea surface temperatures by a few percent at the beginning of the model run. These five forecasts came up with a range of 12 - 16 named storms (including Alex), and 7 - 10 hurricanes. It will be interesting to see when CSU issues its August 4 forecast if they also cut their numbers. With only one named storm (Alex) thus far this year, it's getting pretty hard to have a season with 19 or 20 named storms. Only four hurricane seasons since 1851 have had as many as nineteen named storms. These four seasons--1887, 1933, 1995, and 2005--all had at least three named storms by July 20.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 97
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks

Today's show will be about 45 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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752. MiamiHurricanes09 5:08 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY

A PERSISTENT BREEZY ONSHORE WIND FLOW ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST WILL
CONTINUE TO RESULT IN STRONG, DANGEROUS RIP CURRENTS AT THE ATLANTIC
BEACHES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS MONITORING THE VIGOROUS TROPICAL
WAVE NEAR PUERTO RICO FOR POSSIBLE TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT.
REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS FEATURE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING
HEAVY RAIN AND GUSTY WINDS TO SOUTH FLORIDA FROM EARLY FRIDAY
MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY. STAY TUNED TO THE LATEST FORECASTS FOR
POSSIBLE DETERIORATING WEATHER CONDITIONS LATE THIS WEEK.


From the Miami NWS
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753. patrikdude2 5:08 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    


HWRF model
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754. 7544 5:08 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
gfs

Link
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756. CyclonicVoyage 5:09 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
12Z HWRF further northward, although hard to tell with this graphic.




Strong tropical storm. Similar track to the 12Z TCVN
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757. patrikdude2 5:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
change in 12Z HWRF
A shift to the north in the forecast?
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758. TropicalNonsense 5:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
i need a Canadian beer


Moosehead is great! ... Here have one XCool. LOL
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759. StormSurgeon 5:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
i need a Canadian beer


I need another shot of Beam........
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761. unf97 5:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


But considerably less powerful...


Let's really hope that is the case!!
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762. Prgal 5:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting serialteg:
i was talking about 97l when it passed thru puerto rico and no one paid attention.


Hi Serial. With all due respect I think that most people here pay attention when there is a chance it will hit the CONUS but forget that people in the islands take the hit first. Just my opinion and obviously I agree with you.
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763. xcool 5:11 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
TropicalNonsense lol
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765. mcluvincane 5:11 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Well, you do that! Be my guest! Ya know, if some of ya folks that have nothin' to do but come on and give us mets a hard time, would zip it up and actually read, think, and understand the synopses, ya might learn somethin'


Sorry for the constructive criticism. Geez
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766. splash3392 5:11 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
729 Good suggestion Storm!
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767. flwthrfan 5:12 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Well, you do that! Be my guest! Ya know, if some of ya folks that have nothin' to do but come on and give us mets a hard time, would zip it up and actually read, think, and understand the synopses, ya might learn somethin'


Wish I had a like button right now! Thanks Storm!
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768. TropicalNonsense 5:14 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


But considerably less powerful...


Intensity is unknown. Remember Andrew?
The Gulf Stream and Herbert's Box is notorious.

although im not suggesting anything of the sort.
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769. Prgal 5:14 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Prgal:


Hi Serial. With all due respect I think that most people here pay attention when there is a chance it will hit the CONUS but forget that people in the islands take the hit first. Just my opinion and obviously I agree with you.


I even mentioned earlier about the circulation south of Vieques and I was mostly ignored. Ada Monzon said that there was a huge drop in pressure in the Fajardo area with the wind comming from the west. What does that tells us? We all know...
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770. ElConando 5:14 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
It seems that landfall in inevitable at this point. Whether a TD or TS. The question is will it landfall in SFL or CFL?
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772. Thundercloud01221991 5:16 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    


this shows a hurricane with winds around 75 mph and the very next image is landfall with winds of 65 mph... something is wrong there
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773. sailingallover 5:16 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
If 97L does not get in gear and move I'm going to have a beach front lot...

I have no doubts this will develop soon as it moves away from the islands a bit. There is basically a feeder band going straight over me right now and has been for the last 24 hours.
Pressure at
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=41043&meas=wdpr&uom=E&time_diff=-3&time_label=ADT
Will start to drop soon....
Again as I said yesterday and especially since it has really slowed down T&C, Bahamas get ready and SFL as well...its to late when it is on you..
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775. MiamiHurricanes09 5:16 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
The HWRF initialization point looks to be too far east and south IMO.

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776. 7544 5:16 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
hawf went further north this run and stronger right over so fla too stay tuned
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778. xcool 5:18 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
i think hwrf based on GFS .
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780. sporteguy03 5:18 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Prgal:


I even mentioned earlier about the circulation south of Vieques and I was mostly ignored. Ada Monzon said that there was a huge drop in pressure in the Fajardo area with the wind comming from the west. What does that tells us? We all know...
I read that also I am wondering how the folks elsewhere in Turks and Caicos, Bahamas, DR, Cuba will fare.
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781. Thundercloud01221991 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
another problem with this run of the model

this is in 6 hours from now.... 72 knts

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782. stillwaiting 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
offical track has 97L about 100 miles west of st pete fl at 120 hrs!!!,this could be setting up for a SWFL event IMO...
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783. TropicalNonsense 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Something to consider with that Beer guy's.....

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784. ncstorm 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
where is Weather456? he always does a great analysis of the systems we have out there..he is always cool and calm with the bloggers even with they critized him..interested to know if 97L wont even cross florida but hug the east coast of Fl, GA, SC and NC?
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785. wayfaringstranger 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting flwthrfan:


Wish I had a like button right now! Thanks Storm!


Couldnt agree more. I like storm and his post are very helpful. Cmon, lets show some respect, get along with everyone, and put everything else on the backburner ok?
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786. CyclonicVoyage 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
The HWRF initialization point looks to be too far east and south.




Looks right on the mark to me?

AL, 97, 2010072012, , BEST, 0, 190N, 658W, 30, 1013, DB,
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787. TropicalNonsense 5:19 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
i think hwrf based on GFS .


no GFDL.
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788. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 5:20 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
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789. Prgal 5:20 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting sporteguy03:
I read that also I am wondering how the folks elsewhere in Turks and Caicos, Bahamas, DR, Cuba will fare.


Right! And a lot of people read this blog even if they are not posting comments every day (I am one of them).
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791. MiamiHurricanes09 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:



Looks right on the mark to me?

AL, 97, 2010072012, , BEST, 0, 190N, 658W, 30, 1013, DB,
I understand that, but looking at vorticity and satellite imagery it looks like the center is just north of the eastern tip of the Dominican Republic.



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792. 7544 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
did everyone see the new moe gfs two so fla systems one follows the other
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793. Hurricanes101 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
The HWRF initialization point looks to be too far east and south.



the 12Z coordinates are spot on actually

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794. patrikdude2 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
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795. stillwaiting 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
san juan has a North wind at 5mph right now..
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796. CyclonicVoyage 5:21 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

exactly what i was pointing out


AL, 97, 2010072012, , BEST, 0, 190N, 658W, 30, 1013, DB,
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799. DookiePBC 5:23 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Well, you do that! Be my guest! Ya know, if some of ya folks that have nothin' to do but come on and give us mets a hard time, would zip it up and actually read, think, and understand the synopses, ya might learn somethin'


Amen...I thought I knew a lot about the tropics until I came to this board. Wow, have I ever learned a lot from people like StormW and others. Keep up the good work.
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