Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Quoting MechEngMet:
2479 Levi: I do recall that cold snap. In town we didn't get lower than the low 20'sF. I stated earlier that the lake keeps the south shore much warmer than the north shore.

If the north shore saw 12F then New Orleans saw ~22F.

Yeah. We do almost always have a low about 10 F cooler than you guys when in a cold snap. Closer to 5 F cooler during the summer nights, but not always.

But, during the day, we sometimes are a little warmer than y'all, too.

Big difference from 30 miles away...thanks to Lake Heatsink.

Quoting caneswatch:


I'm not so sure about that.

I was responding to JFV. He moved his cone of disaster from Miami to West Palm.

Quoting atmoaggie:
Okay.

Yeah, sounds like mesovortecies, with the inner eyewall passage.

But, this part bugs me, a little.

"Additional evidence for the mesovortex theory was seen in the relative humidity measurements. A sudden dip occurred in the near-saturated relative humidity at Barrow at the time of the lull between the two sets of extreme gusts. This may have been caused by a sudden subsidence such as would be expected to occur within the core of a mesovortex."

Wouldn't that also support downbursts, possibly more so than mesovorticies?

taken alone, yes. But as a group of evidence I think it helps the mesovortex argument ... circumstantial evidence if you will.

Quoting stillwaiting:
your doing the right thing for yourself bordanaro,maybe some action in the west carib next weekend IMO

That area keeps looking healthy. Although we are in a downward MJO, for the moment, the W Caribbean region keeps firing up some real healthy convective outbursts. By Aug 5th, things are going to get real, real interesting off of Africa. Enjoy the break, it will not last forever :o)

Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Well until after Thanksgiving anyway ;)

For God's Sake...Put a shirt on!!!!

Quoting PowEDier7:
you too, jp? cool, but, bad timming, :(

XD Tell me about it and my 1pm-7pm schedule is torturing LOL, at least I got Fridays free. :D

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


For God's Sake...Put a shirt on!!!!

Please?
Hmm, deja vu.

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I was responding to JFV. He moved his cone of disaster from Miami to West Palm.

No, don't tell me he's near me now!!!!!!!!

Quoting Levi32:


For sure....a cold flow in Anchorage comes from the interior mainland, and sometimes means downsloping off the mountains which results in a much drier cold, while the same cold flow comes off the water into Kenai, resulting in more moisture in the air.

Well I just know I want to go back, if not to live there, but just to see more.

Breathtaking!!! Almost claustrophobic since I am use to flat, open areas. The drive from Anchorage to Kenai was incredible but felt closed.

Then saw "grizzly adams" lol walking through the wilderness and a small building that said "bar", like an outhouse. We got lost in the wilderness and about out of gas. Crazy!

Quoting Levi32:


Yup that's what happens for you guys in the southeast during a cold PDO. Alaska is often the opposite of the SE US during the winter. We were very much warmer than normal this past winter, for example.

In Tallahassee there was a four month period where the temperature did not crack 80. That almost never happens. Miami-Dade county had snow flurries this past winter.

Funny thing is the Fall of 09 was not that cold in Tallahassee then all of a sudden I come back up from winter break and its freezing (for me at least).
From what I've been told in La nina years the fall is colder than normal while the winter is warmer and only slightly cooler than the fall.

Quoting Levi32:
Y'all should remember this....Christmas Eve 1989. Lows of 5 degrees Fahrenheit in central Louisiana, 11 degrees near the mouth of the Mississippi south of New Orleans, 9 degrees in the west panhandle of Florida.

Nope, that was before I was born. I do know of that one though. One of the cold snaps we had this winter was the coldest one since then.

By the way, where do you get all of those cool anomaly maps?

Quoting RedStickCasterette:


That happened in the Houston area in the 90's. Several tornadoes wiped out a subdivision in Channelview, which is east of Houston.

Crazy!

That outbreak happened in November and was non-tropical. However, it did produce a high-end F4 that leveled Channelview and was rated the 7th biggest weather event of the 1900s by the NWS and the 3rd biggest weather event during Bill Read's tenure at the NWS HGX. As I mentioned earlier, the most intense tornado that I have ever seen from a tropical cyclone was the F4 that Hurricane Carla spawned on Galveston Island in 1961.

my schedulae is kind of crummy this year come fall .... I did manage to fit in Dr. Blackwell's tropical discussion class in on Fridays though .... Will be great!

Quoting Levi32:
Y'all should remember this....Christmas Eve 1989. Lows of 5 degrees Fahrenheit in central Louisiana, 11 degrees near the mouth of the Mississippi south of New Orleans, 9 degrees in the west panhandle of Florida.

Levi, this might seem random.. could you post one of Jan, '86 for the same region.. particularly Florida.

Quoting atmoaggie:
Please?
Hmm, deja vu.

Running joke. It used to be you had to be holding a fish to have an avatar without a shirt on.

Quoting Levi32:
Lol, Miami isn't going to get leveled on August 23rd. Let's just wait and see.

I'm sure he just wants to miss the beginning of school. I remember fay canceled the first two days of school of my senior year of high school.

Quoting SouthALWX:
my schedulae is kind of crummy this year come fall .... I did manage to fit in Dr. Blackwell's tropical discussion class in on Fridays though .... Will be great!

Keith B. is a friend.

(And a former Aggie)

Quoting 1900hurricane:
Nope, that was before I was born. I do know of that one though. One of the cold snaps we had this winter was the coldest one since then.

By the way, where do you get all of those cool anomaly maps?


That outbreak happened in November and was non-tropical. However, it did produce a high-end F4 that leveled Channelview and was rated the 7th biggest weather event of the 1900s by the NWS and the 3rd biggest weather event during Bill Read's tenure at the NWS HGX. As I mentioned earlier, the most intense tornado that I have ever seen from a tropical cyclone was the F4 that Hurricane Carla spawned on Galveston Island in 1961.

That one came from here

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Running joke. It used to be you had to be holding a fish to have an avatar without a shirt on.

Dude, I know...

Quoting ElConando:


I'm sure he just wants to miss the beginning of school. I remember fay canceled the first two days of school of my senior year of high school.

That's interesting, I dont remember closed first day school days, yes in the middle, but never at the start.

Well PR usually sees storms in September, not that much in August.

Quoting CybrTeddy:


Levi, this might seem random.. could you post one of Jan, '86 for the same region.. particularly Florida.

What day....lol.

Quoting Levi32:


What day....lol.

28th.

On WV it looks like all the ULLs are simultaneously weakening? Must be an illusion?

Quoting atmoaggie:
Keith B. is a friend.

(And a former Aggie)

He's a brilliant tropical analyst, but Im sure you know that ^_^

Goodnight all. I had an enjoyable and educational evening here (until YKH showed up).

I'll check back in a few days to see what's up.

Quoting atmoaggie:
Over here, in Covington, we had a solid 6 inches in Dec 08. Stuck around for 48 hours, too.

Visible satellite image showed snow cover the next day for us, Hammond, and parts of S central MS.

That, I had only seen in the mountains and upper midwest.

It was funny because right before a good snowfall here, I think in January?. family had gotten heavy snowfall in Houston. I was jealous because we just got a few flurries here. Maybe it was Dec.

Anyway, later, we had a big snowfall in like Jan or Feb and it was the opposite for them. Same thing the prior year.

Quoting CybrTeddy:


28th.

Pretty cold there too...

Quoting CybrTeddy:


28th.

Was that the day of the Challenger?

Quoting Levi32:


That one came from here

Thanks for that link! And on that note, I think I'm going to go for good now. Catch y'all later! :)

Quoting 1900hurricane:

Was that the day of the Challenger?

Yeah..

Quoting atmoaggie:
Over here, in Covington, we had a solid 6 inches in Dec 08. Stuck around for 48 hours, too.

Visible satellite image showed snow cover the next day for us, Hammond, and parts of S central MS.

That, I had only seen in the mountains and upper midwest.

Oh and yes, in '08 we had a ton in Baton Rouge. Stayed on the ground for a couple days. Again, it was strange, Texas got flurries and we got inches. Seems to work the opposite with them.

Quoting Levi32:


Pretty cold there too...

Wow, that's astonishing. Thanks for posting, I've always wanted to see the temps for that day. One of the saddest days in American history and one of the main reasons was because of those temps..

Quoting 1900hurricane:

Thanks for that link! And on that note, I think I'm going to go for good now. Catch y'all later! :)

I think N-G introduced that one to us...or maybe Bowman.

Let me see ....
Snow talk ... in the south ... in July .... must be a slow period in the hurricane season amirite?

>Quoting Levi32:


Good to know you folks in NOLA have at least seen the stuff that I have to live with 7 months of the year :)

Would do anything to live in that!!!!!!

Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


My old house, Christmas Eve morning, 1989. On St. Simons.

Wow, awesome! =)

Hey Levi. Have you ever seen a raindrop? It's like snow. Except melted. You'll know it when you see it.

Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
We had snow flurries the day before the Space shuttle blew up. At 11 am.

Yea, temps got very low that night in Florida too. This formed on the space shuttle launch pad. The rest of course, is history. I've never seen so many icicles in Florida, at least not this big.

Quoting Bordonaro:

Without medical insurance I sincerely doubt any for profit hospital will do anything but tell me," You are stabilized, patiently wait your turn at JPS for surgery"!!

To top things off, the 3 coronary arteries that supply the main blood supply to my heart are 20,30 and 40% blocked. They stated that it was not necessary to install stints in those blood vessels in my heart, stating the blockages were not critical.

And I asked the doctor's WHY I have tingling and sharp pains in my head and my left arm, and pressure in my chest for 15 days non-stop. Of course, they did NOT have an answer!!!

Oh that's scary but I think you will do okay and come through it. I just wonder what they are thinking? Perhaps better to wait than the risks of surgery or stents on the others?

Quoting CybrTeddy:


Yea, temps got very low that night in Florida too. This formed on the space shuttle launch pad. The rest of course, is history

NASA: note to self, icicles plus space shuttle = boom. got it. I still dont understand how they could see that and still go through with it. We learned alot that day .. the biggest thing being that it's easier for something to go wrong than everything to go right.

Hey, Levi.

That cold outbreak you mentioned in 1989 was incredible. It actually froze part of the marsh areas of Mississippi and Louisiana and killed a lot of fish.

This past winter was very cold for our standards and half of my lake froze over. Really amazing that we have gone from so cold to so hot.