Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Little change to 90L; new African tropical wave is worth watching
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:53 PM GMT on July 30, 2010 +3
Invest 90L is a tropical wave in the eastern Atlantic near 10N 33W with a very limited amount of heavy thunderstorm activity but a decent amount of spin. It does not have a well-defined surface circulation, and has shown little change in organization today. CIMMS wind-shear analyses show a low amount of wind shear (5 - 10 knots) over 90L, and sea surface temperatures are a record warm 29°C. The wave currently is in a moist environment and is not being affected by the dry Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to its northwest. The disturbance has moved far enough away from the Equator to leverage the Earth's spin to help it develop. The Saharan Air Layer with its dust and dry air lurks just to the north of 90L, but the SHIPS model predicts 90L will remain far enough from the dry air over the next five days so that it will not interfere with development.


Figure 1. Afternoon visible satellite image from 2pm EDT 7/30/10 of the relatively tiny 90L, and the large new tropical wave that moved off the coast of Africa yesterday.

Forecast for 90L
One factor inhibiting development of 90L this week will be the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO.) The MJO currently favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, which will act to decrease the chances of tropical storm formation. The Madden-Julian oscillation is a pattern of enhanced rainfall that travels along the Equator from west to east. The pattern has a wet phase with large-scale rising air and enhanced thunderstorm activity, followed by a dry phase with large-scale sinking air and suppressed thunderstorm activity. Each cycle lasts approximately 30 - 60 days. When the Madden-Julian oscillation is in its wet phase over a hurricane-prone region, the chances for tropical storm activity are greatly increased.

Perhaps the main factor interfering with 90L's development will be the presence of the large tropical wave to the east of 90L that moved off the coast of Africa yesterday. This new wave is large enough and close enough to 90L that it will probably begin to dominate regional weather patterns this weekend, stealing away 90L's inflow of low-level moist air. The new wave may also act to bring sinking air over 90L that will tend to suppress 90L's thunderstorm activity. It may turn out that the new wave will also steal some of 90L's spin, and end up being a threat to develop itself later on this weekend.

The latest 8am EDT (12Z) model runs for 90L show very little in the way of development of the storm. The predominant track forecast takes 90L into or just north of the northern Lesser Antilles Islands about 6 - 8 days from now. Looking at climatology based on research done by Dr. Bob Hart at Florida State University,, 90L has a 19% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone by 2pm Sunday. NHC is putting these odds at 20%. Dr. Hart also has an experimental product showing that historically, about 30% of all tropical cyclones that develop at 90L's current position eventually hit land as a hurricane. Of course, 90L is not yet a tropical cyclone, and I think that the large tropical wave off the coast of Africa will kill 90L this weekend.

Tropical wave in the eastern Caribbean
A tropical wave in the eastern Caribbean, south of the Dominican Republic, is moving west at 15 - 20 mph with no signs of development. The wave is under a high 20 knots of wind shear, due to strong upper-level westerly winds from an upper level low centered north of Puerto Rico. This shear is expected to remain remain high through Saturday. By Sunday, when the wave will be approaching Nicaragua, the wave will be far enough away from the upper level low that shear should fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots. Some development is possible on Sunday, but the wave will have only about a 1-day window to develop before its westerly motion brings it inland over Nicaragua on Monday. NHC is giving this wave a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by 2pm Sunday.

Extreme cold records for 2010
In my post yesterday, I reported that fourteen countries had set their all-time hottest temperature record this year. I neglected to mention that one country has also set its coldest temperature in recorded history mark in 2010. Guinea had its coldest temperature in its history on January 9, 2010, when the mercury hit 1.4°C (34.5°F) at Mali-ville in the Labe region. Of the 229 countries with extreme coldest temperature records, 14 of these records have occurred in the past ten years (6% of all countries). There have been five times as many (74) extreme hottest temperature records in the past ten years (33% of all countries.) My source for extreme weather records is Chris Burt, author of Extreme Weather.

New study finds huge drop in the plants that form the base of the oceanic food chain
A study published this week in the journal Nature documents that microscopic marine phytoplankton, which form the basis of the marine food chain, have declined by 40% globally since 1950. Joe Romm at climateprogress.org discusses the implications, using this headline:

Scientists may have found the most devastating impact yet of human-caused global warming — a 40% decline in phytoplankton since 1950 linked to the rise in ocean sea surface temperatures. If confirmed, it may represent the single most important finding of the year in climate science.

I plan to discuss this paper next week.

Next update
I'll have an update this weekend, probably by 8pm EDT Saturday.

Jeff Masters
Categories: Hurricane
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 1151 - 1201

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35Blog Index

1152. TankHead93 12:44 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting TankHead93:
One can clearly see the effect of the battle between now ex-90L and the newer wave behind it. The 850mb vorticity of ex-90L is now being transferred over to the new wave, the new wave is winning the battle and will take over, over the next couple of days. Click on the link and follow what I stated by clicking on past vorticity maps. (left hand side of link page) Link
What are some thoughts on this?
Member Since: August 12, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 203
1153. nrtiwlnvragn 12:45 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
As for the models, there are no models designed specifically for tropical cyclogenesis. The hurricane specific models were designed for cyclones (TD and up). That is not to say they can't be used on invest areas, but one needs to understand the limitations of the models. NHC for the past few years has been requesting other versions of the GFDL and HWRF to test for cyclogenesis (removal of the spun up or bogus vortex), but it appears their requests have fallen on deaf ears. Cyclogenesis and intensity are the least understood areas of tropical cyclone research and are now getting more of the attention in research, as shown by the millions that will be spent this summer on the PREDICT program.
Member Since: September 23, 2005 Posts: 11 Comments: 8915
1154. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:45 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    


2010 Northern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclones
Maximum Wind Speed & ACE per storm (ATCF operational intensity estimates)

North Atlantic
Alex (85 ACE = 7.3725)
TD02 (30 ACE = 0.0)
Bonnie (whirl) (35 ACE = 0.49)
Western North Pacific
01W (30 ACE = 0.0)
Omais (50 ACE = 2.0075)
Conson (75 ACE = 8.3225)
Chanthu (75 ACE = 3.5775)
Northern Indian Ocean & Arabian Sea
Laila (65 ACE = 4.46)
Bandu (55 ACE = 2.39)
Phet (125 ACE = 14.16)
Eastern Pacific
Agatha (40 ACE = 0.2825)
Blas (55 ACE = 2.715)
Celia (140 ACE = 25.4875 )
Darby (105 ACE = 10.3925)




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1156. Hurricanes12 12:46 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I like seeing fish storms, out to sea and not hurting nobody. Storms like Bill, Fred, ect. That way we can observe a Hurricane's beauty on satellite without having to worry about who's under it.


As much as I agree, there are hidden aspects to fish storms.

1. They do cause swells that are felt on beaches thousands of miles away. I've heard of plenty of times where fish storms have taken lives due to rip currents and swells. However, if people don't abide by the warnings, it's their fault.

2. There are ships, mainly cargo, etc. that are out on the water where these storms are running by and easily enough a ship can capsize and take life.

I'm not downcasting, but fish storms, as well as the storms that impact land can both be dangerous in their own ways.
Member Since: June 21, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 528
1157. DESteve 12:46 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Yeah.


LOL I knew you were over there somewhere good morning !!!
Member Since: July 29, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 6
1159. Chicklit 12:47 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
The models run when there is a center of circulation and invest named. This is the earliest time in the life of a tropical storm. The models extrapolate data and make projections.
Because a COC from which they initialize models dissipates does not mean they're "wrong."
At the earliest stages it is always speculation, a "What If" scenario.
It's the nature of the game.
Member Since: July 11, 2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 10227
1160. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:48 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
2010 Tropical Cyclone Activity
Updated Jul 27 , 2010

BASIN CURRENT YEAR TO DATE
Northern Hemisphere 82
Western Pacific 14
Southern Hemisphere 196 [2009-2010]



BASIN NORMAL YEARLY ACE** NORMAL YEAR TO DATE
Northern Hemisphere 569 122
Western North Pacific 310 70
Southern Hemisphere 204 --
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1161. msgambler 12:49 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Morning Storm
Member Since: February 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1120
1162. Hurricanes12 12:49 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
The models run when there is a center of circulation and invest named. This is the earliest time in the life of a tropical storm. The models extrapolate data and make projections.
Because a COC from which they initialize dissipates does not mean they're "wrong." At the earliest stages it is always speculation, a "What If" scenario.


Agreed. However, many people put trust into these models way too early. Invests are areas that could develop. Everyone thinks that it will develop when models are in consensus, which is totally reasonable. However, it's just an area of interest.
Member Since: June 21, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 528
1163. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:50 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
so far the 2010 Hurricane Season is below normal on ACE points by 447 points we need 569 points just to achieved a normal season so far we have 122 points
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1166. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:50 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
morning storm
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1167. CybrTeddy 12:51 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Models are having a tough time that area out in the EATL because there is no real defined COC. Only the CMC developed Bonnie.
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1168. msgambler 12:51 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
so far the 2010 Hurricane Season is below normal on ACE points by 447 points we need 569 points just to achieved a normal season so far we have 122 points
Morning Keeper....So your saying the season is a bust....hehehe
Member Since: February 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1120
1169. SAINTHURRIFAN 12:52 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Good morning Ike.I postd this twice yesterday with no response, albiet it was during romper room hrs lol.i think they were to young to know who Paul Bryant was. But Coach Bryant would say potential means you have not done it yet or maybe you never will.That pretty much sums up the 2010 hurricane season so far.I can see it now if it does not radically change "storm w when is the season going to pick up its nov 29 and we have only had x amount of storms.Well the mjo is picking up look tomorrow is nov 30 we still got plenty of time look at the mass of convection over alaska moving south."miami 009 hey levi these downcasters really get me what are they looking at?Not sure 09 they can't see the model run on Christmas day for a blizzard hitting Miami.Now Ike this was meant to be a little funny hope thier good sports and dont take it seriously.But to a lot of the older and wiser people thats how comical they sound sometimes.And thats Coach Paul Bear Bryant lol .Ike have a great day.
Member Since: August 20, 2005 Posts: 5 Comments: 668
1170. CybrTeddy 12:52 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
so far the 2010 Hurricane Season is below normal on ACE points by 447 points we need 569 points just to achieved a normal season so far we have 122 points


Mostly do the very inactive WPAC typhoon season. Atlantic is about average where we are suppose to be coming into August with 2 named storms.
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1171. Chicklit 12:52 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
NHC has not taken the floater off 90L.


They say this about the eastern Atlantic in the 8 a.m. Discussion:
...TROPICAL WAVES...
AN ATLANTIC OCEAN TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 16N19W 11N21W 6N22W MOVING WESTWARD 10 TO 15 KT. SCATTERED STRONG SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE FROM 5N TO 7N BETWEEN 22W AND 24W...AND FROM 9N TO 12N BETWEEN 22W AND 30W.

THE 1010 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER THAT WAS NEAR 10N34W SIX HOURS AGO HAS DISSIPATED. A SURFACE TROUGH REMAINS ALONG 34W/35W FROM 7N TO 13N. ANY OF THE PRECIPITATION THAT JUST IS RELATED TO THIS TROPICAL WAVE UNDOUBTEDLY IS MIXED WITH THE ITCZ SCATTERED STRONG SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THAT ARE FROM 2N TO 10N BETWEEN
32W AND 43W.

Member Since: July 11, 2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 10227
1172. Hhunter 12:53 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Therein lies the problem. We still don't fully understand the weather yet. And until we do, preseason forecasts are useless.

As far as the season being a bust goes, I'm not in that crowd at all. I didn't mean to make it seem like I was. I still fully anticipate an active season, probably something along the lines of 1998 or 1999, number wise.
peak of hurricane season is aug and sept. oct can be active. the track race will start soon. you may be suprised yet still
Member Since: August 19, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 2886
1173. CybrTeddy 12:53 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Good morning all; IKE, KOTG, Chicklit...


Morning Chief, looking forward to your input.
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1174. Chicklit 12:53 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Sorry, it was a "low pressure center" not a "center of circulation."
Member Since: July 11, 2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 10227
1175. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:54 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting msgambler:
Morning Keeper....So your saying the season is a bust....hehehe
no not yet but come the end of august and we are still waitin well its not rocket science
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1177. Chicklit 12:55 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Hi StormW. Funny the arguments people have on here, isn't it. As if this were a movie and everything should start happening as you sit in your seat in front of the computer.
Member Since: July 11, 2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 10227
1178. CybrTeddy 12:55 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no not yet but come the end of august and we are still waitin well its not rocket science


Well then if August doesn't see a system, this season will probably be 7-8 storms. It would be only the 2nd season that I know of that the WPAC, Atlantic, and EPAC where all inactive.
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1179. GTcooliebai 12:56 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
do all these stats about ACE really matter the season will wake up when it feels like waking up 2nd week in August right up to the end of the season there should be plenty of storms to track. + it's a La Nina yr. and when was the last time we saw normal to below normal activity in a La Nina yr.
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5163
1180. aquak9 12:57 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
g'morning WU-Bloggers worldwide!

Keeper, gambler, ike, Seenya-Cheef and everyone.

SaintHurrifan now that was funny. That was a good laugh. I needed that cause otherwise things was lookin' mighty scary!
Member Since: August 13, 2005 Posts: 163 Comments: 24996
1181. stormpetrol 12:57 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Huh, I didn't notice they upped the odds on the Caribbean AOI to 20%. No convection whatsoever with it.
I think it has a definitive circulation though, thats probably why I was wondering about that myself, good morning to everyone btw.
Member Since: April 29, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 6394
1183. GTcooliebai 12:59 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Well then if August doesn't see a system, this season will probably be 7-8 storms. It would be only the 2nd season that I know of that the WPAC, Atlantic, and EPAC where all inactive.

Well if your telling me this yr. will have less storms than last yr. I think you and all the other forecasting agency are out of their mind and flawed because how can you go with a hyperactive season to a below normal one, it just doesn't make sense in this day in age?
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5163
1184. texwarhawk 12:59 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Bouy in Caribbean (15.054 N 67.472 W)

3hrs ago

Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 13.6 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 17.5 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 5.2 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 7 sec
Average Period (APD): 4.7 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.81 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.02 in ( Falling )

Now
Wind Direction (WDIR): ESE ( 110 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 15.5 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 19.4 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 5.6 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 7 sec
Average Period (APD): 5.1 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.85 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): 0.03 in ( Rising )

Bouy

Winds were up to 25kts at a point when closer to the wave. Winds have shifted from ene to ese as the wave passed below.
Member Since: July 7, 2010 Posts: 4 Comments: 202
1185. msgambler 12:59 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Ok folks, I have to go change the brakes on the "Boss'" car. I don't know why she needs them, she should just drive a little slower. Storm, I will read your updates upon my return. And of course, I look forward to them. Hope all have a good morning.
Member Since: February 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1120
1186. Chicklit 1:00 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    


Hi Storm Petrol, are you over your drought in the Caymans?
Member Since: July 11, 2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 10227
1187. CybrTeddy 1:00 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting GTcooliebai:

Well if your telling me this yr. will have less storms than last yr. I think you and all the other forecasting agency are out of their mind and flawed because how can you go with a hyperactive season to a below normal one, it just doesn't make sense in this day in age?


I didn't say that. I said if August (which is unlikely to say the least) has no storms that this season will be 7-8 named. I highly doubt that will happen, as 2009 with high shear, lower SSTs, lower TCHP pulled out 4. We should be able to pull out 4, we'd be a 6 going into September
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1188. GTcooliebai 1:02 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Hhunter:
peak of hurricane season is aug and sept. oct can be active. the track race will start soon. you may be suprised yet still

It's gonna surprise a lot of us the heat is enormous I mean 100 degrees + in Florida I believe we may be tracking storms into Nov. and even a straggler or two in Dec.
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5163
1189. earthlydragonfly 1:02 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Good morning Casters....
Member Since: July 1, 2005 Posts: 10 Comments: 1649
1190. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 1:02 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Well then if August doesn't see a system, this season will probably be 7-8 storms. It would be only the 2nd season that I know of that the WPAC, Atlantic, and EPAC where all inactive.
we are having problems getting systems going i don't know what it is but there are issues that were unforseen by even the experts this coming week will be the first of the droppin numbers game iam sure
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40348
1191. CybrTeddy 1:03 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
This entire area looks just interesting to me.

Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1192. TankHead93 1:03 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting TankHead93:
What are some thoughts on this?
I need to know if I am correct on my observation, feedback would be nice and greatly appreciated. ;)
Member Since: August 12, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 203
1193. msgambler 1:03 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Morning earthly
Member Since: February 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1120
1194. CybrTeddy 1:04 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we are having problems getting systems going i don't know what it is but there are issues that were unforseen by even the experts this coming week will be the first of the droppin numbers game iam sure


This season has proven once they get going..

They get going.
Member Since: July 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20178
1196. GTcooliebai 1:04 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I didn't say that. I said if August (which is unlikely to say the least) has no storms that this season will be 7-8 named. I highly doubt that will happen, as 2009 with high shear, lower SSTs, lower TCHP pulled out 4. We should be able to pull out 4, we'd be a 6 going into September

Oh okay i was wondering if that was what u meant. I think SAL is giving us some problems what do you think?
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5163
1197. TankHead93 1:05 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting TankHead93:
One can clearly see the effect of the battle between now ex-90L and the newer wave behind it. The 850mb vorticity of ex-90L is now being transferred over to the new wave, the new wave is winning the battle and will take over, over the next couple of days. Click on the link and follow what I stated by clicking on past vorticity maps. (left hand side of link page) Link
Member Since: August 12, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 203
1198. TankHead93 1:06 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Sorry double post!
Member Since: August 12, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 203
1200. nrtiwlnvragn 1:07 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we are having problems getting systems going i don't know what it is but there are issues that were unforseen by even the experts this coming week will be the first of the droppin numbers game iam sure


If we knew all of the parameters, and how they interact with each other we would have seasonal forecasts that would demonstrate skill. We don't.
Member Since: September 23, 2005 Posts: 11 Comments: 8915
1201. earthlydragonfly 1:07 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting msgambler:
Morning earthly


Morning
Member Since: July 1, 2005 Posts: 10 Comments: 1649

Viewing: 1151 - 1201

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity