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Pakistan monsoon floods kill at least 800
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:56 PM GMT on July 31, 2010 +3
The deadliest weather disaster of 2010 is unfolding in Pakistan, where heavy monsoon rains have triggered flooding that has left at least 817 people dead. A death toll may reach 3000, according to the local head of Pakistan's largest rescue service, and more monsoon rains are on the way. Monsoon floods have also hit southeastern Afghanistan hard, where at least 64 have been killed. The heavy rains were caused by a monsoon depression (also called a monsoon low) that formed over the Bay of Bengal on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan, resulting in that nation's worst floods since at least 1929. Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela.

A monsoon depression is similar to a tropical depression, but forms in the Indian Southwest Monsoon over the Bay of Bengal. Like tropical depressions, monsoon depressions are hundreds of miles in diameter, have nearly calm winds near the center, and can have sustained winds of 30 - 35 mph. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in 2009; the average is 6 - 7. A new monsoon depression developed over the Bay of Bengal yesterday, and is headed westward towards Pakistan. Heavy rains from this new monsoon depression will begin affecting Pakistan on Monday, according to the Pakistan Meteorological Department.


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Tropical Atlantic may get active by mid-week
The Invest 90L tropical wave off the coast of Africa has grown disorganized, and NHC is no longer generating forecast tracks for the system. A tropical wave that moved of the coast of Africa Thursday is in the eastern Atlantic near 10N 25W, a few hundred miles south of the Cape Verdes Islands. This morning's 12Z run of the NOGAPS model predicts that this wave will develop into a tropical storm by Wednesday, and reach the Lesser Antilles Islands Friday. This morning's 12Z run of the GFS and ECMWF models predict that an area of disturbed weather near 8N 37W, in the east-central Atlantic, will develop into a tropical storm that will move through the Lesser Antilles on Thursday. Wind shear is low to moderate, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of these disturbed areas to potentially allow formation of a tropical storm. However, the Madden-Julian Oscillation currently favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, which will act to decrease the chances of tropical storm formation. NHC is giving a 30% chance that a tropical depression will form by Monday afternoon from one of these areas of disturbed weather.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning at the latest.

Jeff Masters
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851. CybrTeddy 10:34 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Snowlover123:


And look what's came off of Africa...


Wave train
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852. Tazmanian 10:34 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

Cool. Collin's 400 miles to the NW of me on my B-Day.



well have a hurricane party for you i oder the pizza
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853. oakland 10:35 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

1 month 2 weeks after I was born, Georges hit my Island with no mercy. Almost 6 years ago, TS Jeanne hit PR with 70mph winds. So, I'm kinda experienced with tropical cyclones.


Sadly, I'm sure you are- but they're more frustrating when it happens around a special date. (Andrew knocked out my power for 2 weeks and I lived well north of landfall). Not a fun time in my house with 2 young children and 1 that couldn't have her party as planned.
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854. Snowlover123 10:35 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Snowlover123:
Hey CyberTed, when I was downcasting about how July was a bust? And you said my tone will change? Absolutely!!!!!! :D


Make that CybrTeddy
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855. JLPR2 10:36 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting oakland:


Sadly, I'm sure you are- but they're more frustrating when it happens around a special date. (Andrew knocked out my power for 2 weeks and I lived well north of landfall). Not a fun time in my house with 2 young children and 1 that couldn't have her party as planned.


My birthday is in January, so I dont think a hurricane will ever bring me a present. :0)
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856. CaribBoy 10:36 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
180 hours. Look at the Atlantic...



hell begins nooo (lol)
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857. stormwatcherCI 10:36 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


If it remains a weak, open wave, then yes a solution like the ECMWF may be possible with a track farther south closer to the big Caribbean islands or just south of them. I think a developing system will track into the northern Antilles and ultimately not pass through the entire Caribbean.
Thanks. I usually worry a little more when they develop so far south. Bad experience for us with Ivan.
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858. xcool 10:37 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    


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859. MiamiHurricanes09 10:37 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
192 hours. GFS continues to show a slight curve towards the NW before making landfall around northern Florida.

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861. oakland 10:38 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


My birthday is in January, so I dont think a hurricane will ever bring me a present. :0)


Lucky you!!!!
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862. MiamiHurricanes09 10:38 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
At 312 hours the wave in the Atlantic approaches the Greater Antilles as a significant system.

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863. Snowlover123 10:38 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
192 hours. GFS continues to show a slight curve towards the NW before making landfall around northern Florida.



NOOOO!! TURN NORTH! TURN NORTH!
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866. JLPR2 10:38 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting xcool:




O_O
Well the GFS seems to have lost its shyness and went nuts with storms.
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867. CyclonicVoyage 10:38 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Clearwater1:


the 12 gfs does not curve it so much. In fact at the end of the run it looks like it starts back more westerly.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


It would be a rather big pattern change to have troughiness set up on the east coast. High has been the rule this summer so, I have more faith in a ridge building back in. Not saying it can't happen though, it may, lord knows we need the rain down here on the SE coast.
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868. Levi32 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
18z GFS takes ex-90L through Florida and does strengthen it. It shows round 2 in the Antilles in 13 days.

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869. alaina1085 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Ok seriously!?! JFV chill dude. Its like days away and nothing has formed and most of all we dont know where its going. This is why people get annoyed with you. If you would just chill out and watch how things develop we might like you.
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870. FirstCoastMan 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Can someone post the link for the 18z gfs,thanks.
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871. Tazmanian 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
i think FL need too keep a close TAB on this storm
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872. CaribBoy 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting xcool:




Hope a huge trough will move this out to sea!
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873. CybrTeddy 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
192 hours. GFS continues to show a slight curve towards the NW before making landfall around northern Florida.



Looks like a TS.
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875. IKE 10:39 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Filibuster:
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, WHY IS IT MOVING nw? -_-.


Maybe you can get in a boat and head to it and force it back west some?
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876. Snowlover123 10:40 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
18Z run of the GFS shear forecast map indicates conditions to become more conducive for development 35-40W.







Looks like an Anticyclone, does it not?
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877. StormSurgeon 10:40 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
LOL, that's why they'll probably re-tag it as an invest at 00z.


Don't know, still looks like a big disorganized mass of T-Storms to me. If there really is a closed low in there (?) they'll tag it. I think invests are over-emphasized and I've stopped giving them too much attention.
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879. MiamiHurricanes09 10:40 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:
Ok seriously!?! JFV chill dude. Its like days away and nothing has formed and most of all we dont know where its going. This is why people get annoyed with you. If you would just chill out and watch how things develop we might like you.
You just wasted about 47 seconds of your time. LOL, it's no use speaking to him.
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880. Bordonaro 10:40 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
wow starting to see white dots on the rainbow floter sat


Here we go!!! The Old AVN 90L floater shows a boiling convection at 8-9N about 32W!!
Link
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881. Tazmanian 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
18z GFS takes ex-90L through Florida and does strengthen it. It shows round 2 in the Antilles in 13 days.




and look stronger then the 1st is there a round 3
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883. deautschlandfutbol 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
So if its rides that western side its florida. Dang! That a/b high setup is looking bad for fl. Hey how do u put a pic in here I uploaded my pic.
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884. xcool 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
I'm not putting much faith in gfs just yet let frist get development & get some model runs tonigth.imo imo
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885. CaribBoy 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
18z GFS takes ex-90L through Florida and does strengthen it. It shows round 2 in the Antilles in 13 days.



sad :(... several days away fortunately
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886. ElConando 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
I see someones posts are being "filibustered" so to speak.
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888. Levi32 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting F4PHANTOM:
ecmwf doesn't begin to develop it until 192 hrs out. That's why it takes through between Fla & Cuba. A stronger system would probably track farther north.Agreed??


Yes. That is essentially what I said.
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889. MiamiHurricanes09 10:41 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting StormSurgeon:


Don't know, still looks like a big disorganized mass of T-Storms to me. If there really is a closed low in there (?) they'll tag it. I think invests are over-emphasized and I've stopped giving them too much attention.
If it had a closed low it would be a TD. No criteria for an invest...kinda weird that it isn't one already.
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890. oakland 10:42 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Reply #858 and 859:

I don't like either post personally. Farther north landfall directly affects my brother and other family and further south affects me. Can't you make this go POOF?
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891. alaina1085 10:42 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
You just wasted about 47 seconds of your time. LOL, it's no use speaking to him.

Ugh I know, it just gets so annoying. Its like teaching someone to count to 10 and they always forget the number 6! LOL
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892. JLPR2 10:42 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



and look stronger then the 1st is there a round 3


yeah a 1007 mb low around the Cape Verde islands,
but its so far out that I will ignore it :)
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894. WatchingThisOne 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:

It appears that if enough

flags are given to a comment

which violates the Community standard below:

WunderBlogs - Standards
Rules of the Road

5. Do not circumvent administrative action by creating new users, etc.


Then the comment gets automatically removed for violating community standards.

Thus empowering users, and giving Admin a break from constantly dealing with Janiel.

I call it Whack-a-Troll


That is worthy of an occasional re-post.
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895. Tazmanian 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
I see someones posts are being "filibustered" so to speak.



and being re move has fast has he posting them am loveing this
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896. Snowlover123 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010xx:
by 8pm 40% and by 2am 50%


By 2am 60%
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897. ElConando 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
I had to ignore twice to ignore him go figure.
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898. IKE 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Looks like another Bonnie track. Just like the ECMWF. State of Florida and my homeowners insurance can handle that.

Quoting StormSurgeon:


Don't know, still looks like a big disorganized mass of T-Storms to me. If there really is a closed low in there (?) they'll tag it. I think invests are over-emphasized and I've stopped giving them too much attention.


The first 1 or 2 of the season were exciting, but the models they use are way over doing just about every invest.
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899. aquak9 10:43 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
No talk of Northern Florida. Jacksonville has had a protective dome since late '64.
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901. MiamiHurricanes09 10:44 PM GMT on July 31, 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

Ugh I know, it just gets so annoying. Its like teaching someone to count to 10 and they always forget the number 6! LOL
LOL!!
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