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Lesser Antilles may see a tropical storm late this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:51 PM GMT on August 01, 2010 +3
A concentrated area of intense thunderstorms near 9N 36W, midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has become more organized this morning. NHC has labeled this system Invest 91L, and is giving it a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by 8am Tuesday. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of 91L to potentially allow further development. The main negatives for development are the current phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation, which favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, and the fact that 91L is too close to the Equator to take much advantage of the Earth's spin to get spinning. Last night's ASCAT pass of the region did show a large region of westerly winds south of 91L, indicating that a surface circulation is trying to form. Satellite imagery shows that the intensity and areal extent of 91L's heavy thunderstorms is increasing. However, there are no signs of a surface circulation, and low-level spiral bands and upper-level outflow are not apparent yet.

Forecast for 91L
There is strong model support for 91L developing into a tropical depression. The GFS, ECMWF, NOGAPS, and UKMET models all develop 91L into a tropical depression by Tuesday or Wednesday. A west to west-northwest motion is predicted, and residents of the Lesser Antilles Islands should anticipate the possibility of a tropical storm arriving in the islands as early as Thursday. It is possible that 91L would pass northeast of the islands, as predicted by the UKMET model, and it is too early to speculate on which of the islands is at most risk. As the storm approaches the Lesser Antilles late this week, 91L will encounter a strong upper-level low pressure system centered north of Puerto Rico. This upper-level low will likely bring high levels of wind shear to the waters just north of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. Thus, if 91L stays to the south, in the Caribbean, it is far more likely to attain hurricane status than if it pushes north of the Caribbean. As always, long range forecasts of this sort are speculative, and it is too early to reliably say what the long-term risks of 91L becoming a hurricane are. The latest intensity forecast from the SHIPS model shows 91L peaking in strength four days from now, then weakening as it encounters the high wind shear area north of Puerto Rico.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 91L.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning.

Jeff Masters
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3051. KoritheMan 3:26 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
There is a SHIP south of 91L that is reporting a pressure of 1010mb and winds out of the northwest.


That would still seem to indicate a poorly defined surface circulation, unless the report was to the southwest of the estimated center position.
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3053. Patrap 3:27 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


I don't get it either. Hopefully everything will be sorted out in the morning.


sometime ya just got to wonder if the consensus they come up with is individual..or a group thought.

Seems things have a decidedly "slow to recognize the obvious" trend this season.

But thats just one guys opine and obs of the overall performance.
So far.
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3054. GeoffreyWPB 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
I just received a virus threat from Norton originating from this site.
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3055. Levi32 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
There is a SHIP south of 91L that is reporting a pressure of 1010mb and winds out of the northwest.


That was at 18z.
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3056. MrstormX 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Likely is going to recurve at some point; the Bermuda high should be roughly around 1022mb in 5 days (about the time the models indicate curvature) and although it is a bit weaker then its average 1024mb its effects should be the same on this system.

Here is the dinger... the way the ridges are set up in that same time frame this system should come extremely close to the Carolina coast before curving which means areas of the eastern Seaboard or Northeast could actually get a landfall.
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3057. cirrocumulus 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Odd, Another momentum shift to the east at 10.0N/36.5W.
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3059. Drakoen 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


That would still seem to indicate a poorly defined surface circulation, unless the report was to the southwest of the estimated center position.


It is to the southwest
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3060. AllStar17 3:28 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting stevenshsjay1:
I don't really think 91L will develop into anything. The low as a whole looks broad and disorganized and shear is expected to get stronger. The downwardness MJO is sure pushing dry stable air into the system and will continue to do so. I don't think 91L will develop into a TD at all. Your thoughts, blog?


Totally wrong.
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3061. RuBRNded 3:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


sometime ya just got to wonder if the consensus they come up with is individual..or a group thought.

Seems things hae a decidedly slow to recognize trend this season.

But thats just one guys opine and obs of the overall performance.
So far.


Tru Dat
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3062. pottery 3:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Wait for it,

Your Boss is talking to you, DDR......
heheheh

Hey Orc. I'll make a Deal.
Send that Blob to the cleaners, and I will lift my Dry Spell that I put on you.......
Time is of the Essence.
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3063. Levi32 3:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Interesting pouch forecast:

I am unsure of whether these guys think a tropical cyclone can leave the pouch that it formed in and take a different track, or if the pouch remains with the storm.

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3064. Patrap 3:29 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I just received a virus threat from Norton originating from this site.


Thats the Navy site message .
it will clear when the post falls off the current page.

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3065. Orcasystems 3:30 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Funkadelic:


Is that the new name for a "Westcaster"?? lol!


mummble mumble...
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3066. MrstormX 3:30 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I just received a virus threat from Norton originating from this site.


Strange you should mention that, my kaspersky anti-virus stopped a Trojan earlier as well. And the only things I had in my tabs were the nhc site and here.
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3067. cirrocumulus 3:30 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
GeofferyWPB: If you ever have trouble from virus even with Norton, go Hitman3.5.
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3068. Tazmanian 3:31 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Interesting pouch forecast:

I am unsure of whether these guys think a tropical cyclone can leave the pouch that it formed in and take a different track.




i see other wave what be hid it
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3069. RuBRNded 3:31 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Westcaster... or WesternHo?


Careful, Ho might become an issue, western or eastern or where ever.
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3070. NewYork4Life 3:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Cat 4 by the time it hits Bermuda...
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3071. Tazmanian 3:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting stevenshsjay1:
I don't really think 91L will develop into anything. The low as a whole looks broad and disorganized and shear is expected to get stronger. The downwardness MJO is sure pushing dry stable air into the system and will continue to do so. I don't think 91L will develop into a TD at all. Your thoughts, blog?



a downcaster?
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3072. WeatherMum 3:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Funny my Norton Just did the same thing!
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3073. MrstormX 3:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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3074. Tazmanian 3:32 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting NewYork4Life:
Cat 4 by the time it hits Bermuda...



wishcaster
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3075. FranAteMyRoof96 3:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
anticyclone is setting up at 11-12n, though, right? along with 500-850 vort.
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3077. Orcasystems 3:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

Your Boss is talking to you, DDR......
heheheh

Hey Orc. I'll make a Deal.
Send that Blob to the cleaners, and I will lift my Dry Spell that I put on you.......
Time is of the Essence.


Your pretty safe for now. Did you notice that the rain blob never makes it past that line in the picture... sort of like an invisible shield.

Then again it could be the edge of the SAT coverage... I guess only time will tell :)
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3078. taco2me61 3:33 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I just received a virus threat from Norton originating from this site.

Hey I got it too was wondering what was going own in here....

Taco
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3079. Patrap 3:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


Oh lord. Remember that horrible virus outbreak wunderground spread last year?


That led to the Link prompt here too.
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3080. CyclonicVoyage 3:34 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


It is to the southwest


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3082. WeatherMum 3:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Adware.ADH threat
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3083. GainesvilleGator 3:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
We don't even have a Depression yet and it is common knowledge that the early model runs are crap. The models ought to have a pretty good grasp on things after 72 hours. Expect your typical model flip flops over the next few days.
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3084. Patrap 3:35 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
The No-ads membership is well worth the money

Easily when it comes to banner ad threats.

Like last August.
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3086. Patrap 3:36 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    


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3088. pottery 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Your pretty safe for now. Did you notice that the rain blob never makes it past that line in the picture... sort of like an invisible shield.

Then again it could be the edge of the SAT coverage... I guess only time will tell :)

LOL Yeah, I wondered about that line.
Thought it was some sort of Halo Effect or something.
Powerful mojo, man.
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3089. Patrap 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Dvorak Likes yer reasoning too Drak.
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3090. Levi32 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Geoffrey, what link triggered the alert?



Maybe someone tried posting images from the Navy site or something.
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3091. WeatherMum 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
I have the no-ads membership and still got it!
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3092. nrtiwlnvragn 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Interesting pouch forecast:

I am unsure of whether these guys think a tropical cyclone can leave the pouch that it formed in and take a different track, or if the pouch remains with the storm.



That forecast is about 3 days old, from the 2010073000 cycle.
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3093. Tazmanian 3:37 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
The No-ads membership is well worth the money

Easily when it comes to banner ad threats.

Like last August.



yes but they need to fix that up a little

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3095. CyclonicVoyage 3:38 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Gotta run all.

Looks like 91L is setting up for the races tonight, it's going to be busy tomorrow.
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3096. Patrap 3:38 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Nothing spookier than an Old pouch seems.

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3097. GeoffreyWPB 3:38 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
SSIG...Don't know. I just ran a scan and cleaned everything.
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3099. Drakoen 3:38 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
I use firefox ad blocker
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3100. Patrap 3:39 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
I use firefox ad blocker


Thats best if one dosent use the membership.
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3101. Tazmanian 3:39 AM GMT on August 02, 2010    
am uesing firefox 4.0 beta 2
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