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Lesser Antilles may see a tropical storm late this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:51 PM GMT on August 01, 2010 +3
A concentrated area of intense thunderstorms near 9N 36W, midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has become more organized this morning. NHC has labeled this system Invest 91L, and is giving it a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by 8am Tuesday. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of 91L to potentially allow further development. The main negatives for development are the current phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation, which favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, and the fact that 91L is too close to the Equator to take much advantage of the Earth's spin to get spinning. Last night's ASCAT pass of the region did show a large region of westerly winds south of 91L, indicating that a surface circulation is trying to form. Satellite imagery shows that the intensity and areal extent of 91L's heavy thunderstorms is increasing. However, there are no signs of a surface circulation, and low-level spiral bands and upper-level outflow are not apparent yet.

Forecast for 91L
There is strong model support for 91L developing into a tropical depression. The GFS, ECMWF, NOGAPS, and UKMET models all develop 91L into a tropical depression by Tuesday or Wednesday. A west to west-northwest motion is predicted, and residents of the Lesser Antilles Islands should anticipate the possibility of a tropical storm arriving in the islands as early as Thursday. It is possible that 91L would pass northeast of the islands, as predicted by the UKMET model, and it is too early to speculate on which of the islands is at most risk. As the storm approaches the Lesser Antilles late this week, 91L will encounter a strong upper-level low pressure system centered north of Puerto Rico. This upper-level low will likely bring high levels of wind shear to the waters just north of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. Thus, if 91L stays to the south, in the Caribbean, it is far more likely to attain hurricane status than if it pushes north of the Caribbean. As always, long range forecasts of this sort are speculative, and it is too early to reliably say what the long-term risks of 91L becoming a hurricane are. The latest intensity forecast from the SHIPS model shows 91L peaking in strength four days from now, then weakening as it encounters the high wind shear area north of Puerto Rico.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 91L.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning.

Jeff Masters
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3651. PensacolaDoug 12:11 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good Morning. No Colin yet, but by the end of the day eh?
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3653. MiamiHurricanes09 12:11 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting weatherman12345:

Morning Miami, what are your thoughts on the apperance of 91L?
Looks like some dry air intrusion, the diurnal minimum, and detachment from the ITCZ caused convection to wane a bit, but overall the system remains well organized.
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3654. IKE 12:11 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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3656. Prgal 12:12 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Not sure about Puerto Rico at the moment, but I think it will get closer to the Lesser Antilles.


Thanks Storm.
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3657. CybrTeddy 12:13 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
TAFB still at 2.5
SAB at 1.0


SAB thinks this is at 10N still, that's why its so low.
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3661. texwarhawk 12:15 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
WOW how long have you had it- seems like i should change mine- gota few more i can upload
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3662. Goldenblack 12:16 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Blog is eating my posts...

Area of disturbed weather to the east of 91L looking strong this morning...

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3663. alaina1085 12:16 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:
Morning H2O pup, Storm, Drak, and everyone!!!

Senior Chief Caster..... Question... Is it possible that the reason 91l is struggling could be of competing vorticities? I mean the is a combo of 90L and the wave that came off of Africa.. Could that be part of the reason why the models are having a hard time nailing it down?

Same thing that happened with Alex. Thats why its taking these storms so long to make depression status.
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3664. IKE 12:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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3665. CybrTeddy 12:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Looks like a TD to me. Spiral banding on all quadrants.
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3666. HurricaneSwirl 12:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
02/1145 UTC 12.7N 39.8W T2.0/2.0 91L -- Atlantic
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3667. Becca36 12:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:


Bre- it's gotta be a new ad causing the problem. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND becoming a paid member. For $10, $15? SO worth it. Much cleaner site.

Like the difference between cold instant coffee, and fresh-brewed.

Good morning Aquak! I agree, paid is better.
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3668. Goldenblack 12:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
National Hurricane Center is into a period of conservatism in my opinion....making sure every dot and t is crossed before they designate.

Quoting alaina1085:

Same thing that happened with Alex. Thats why its taking these storms so long to make depression status.
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3669. HurricaneSwirl 12:18 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
SSD (is this the same as SAB? they usually have the exact same numbers) just updated to 2.0.
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3671. aquak9 12:18 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
deutchland- yes you are improving, really quickly. Wish I could learn that fast.

Folks, the longer this thing takes to develop, the worse the outcome.
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3672. MiamiHurricanes09 12:19 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

Same thing that happened with Alex. Thats why its taking these storms so long to make depression status.
That reminds me, when at that time tropical depression #1 most models took Alex to Louisiana, and it ended up in Mexico. Goes to show how much models change in a couple of days. Not putting much stock into this recurvature just yet.
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3674. aquak9 12:19 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
hey g'morning becca! you already paid up? GOOD GIRL!!
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3677. Drakoen 12:20 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
SSD (is this the same as SAB? they usually have the exact same numbers) just updated to 2.0.


Yup. With TAFB at 2.5 and SAB at 2.0 91L should be upgraded to TD 4
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3678. cirrocumulus 12:21 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Another spin from the ITCZ kept 91L holding the low center at 11N 38W. The farther south this StormW stays the longer before it turns north.
The initiation point is very important.
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3679. 1992Andrew 12:21 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
deutchland- yes you are improving, really quickly. Wish I could learn that fast.

Folks, the longer this thing takes to develop, the worse the outcome.


You're right. I live in South Florida and most of the models, at the moment, are predicting a curve from our shores. But yesterday morning they were inching towards us. Let's see what the next batch of models say next.
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3680. MiamiHurricanes09 12:21 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
02/1145 UTC 12.7N 39.8W T2.0/2.0 91L -- Atlantic
Wow SAB at T2.0. Probably because the center fix is pretty good. With 2.0 and 2.5 we should have a TD.
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3681. deautschlandfutbol 12:21 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good morning Alaina! How r u? I don't wanna goto work ugh. One more day then off to ny.
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3682. alaina1085 12:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
That reminds me, when at that time tropical depression #1 most models took Alex to Louisiana, and it ended up in Mexico. Goes to show how much models change in a couple of days. Not putting much stock into this recurvature just yet.

Exactly. Neither am I miami. Its like everyone says, when the first runs come out 9 times out of 10 thats where the storm wont go lol. Im waiting for tropical depression status so the models have a center to lock on to. Till then I think the models are out to lunch.
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3683. HurricaneSwirl 12:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
SSD (is this the same as SAB? they usually have the exact same numbers) just updated to 2.0.


Ok, are the same thing. But we have SAB at 2.0, and TAFB at 2.5. CIMSS ADT doesn't start until we have a named storm, it appears.
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3685. CybrTeddy 12:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good organization. Waiting on ASCAT. I'd say this is TD4 nearing Colin.

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3686. Drakoen 12:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
SAB had a good center fix
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3687. K8eCane 12:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Georgia in play
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3688. CybrTeddy 12:23 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
SAB has it where I have it, 12.7N.
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3689. alaina1085 12:23 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting deautschlandfutbol:
Good morning Alaina! How r u? I don't wanna goto work ugh. One more day then off to ny.

Good. Back to work for me too. Weekend went by too fast!
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3691. MiamiHurricanes09 12:24 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

Exactly. Neither am I miami. Its like everyone says, when the first runs come out 9 times out of 10 thats where the storm wont go lol. Im waiting for tropical depression status so the models have a center to lock on to. Till then I think the models are out to lunch.
A recurvature is a possibility, but I just don't think we'll see one. If the system is by 60W and the models still say recurvature then I'll pay a little more attention to them.
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3692. nyhurricaneboy 12:24 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Morning all.

Looks like we're not getting a T.D. until 11 am EDT.

This thing is more organized than it's been. It looks like a depression. It looks better than Bonnie.

"Surface Circulation is Key"
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3693. 1992Andrew 12:24 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Some on this blog are hidden from normal view, in which case i have to click on the "show" button. Is that how im listed to most in the blog? I wonder why wunderground hides some comments even when the content conforms to community standards.
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3694. earthlydragonfly 12:24 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
August indeed looks to be a very active month. With possibly another storm forming after 91L.


Well, Maybe the problem with the storms developing could be the
Quoting IKE:
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Looks like a TD to me. Spiral banding on all quadrants.



Jinks 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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3695. Snowlover123 12:24 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good Morning!
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3696. earthlydragonfly 12:25 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
deutchland- yes you are improving, really quickly. Wish I could learn that fast.

Folks, the longer this thing takes to develop, the worse the outcome.


I like saying Morning when I get to agree with ya.. So "morning!"
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3699. Snowlover123 12:27 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Good organization. Waiting on ASCAT. I'd say this is TD4 nearing Colin.



Looks like TD 1 of last year

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3701. Drakoen 12:28 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
From the FTP site:

SAB, JK, VI, 5, 2020 /////, , , , LLCC, T, DT=2.0 BO CBND MET=2.5 PT=2.0 FTBO DT PA=50 NMI
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