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Lesser Antilles may see a tropical storm late this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:51 PM GMT on August 01, 2010 +3
A concentrated area of intense thunderstorms near 9N 36W, midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has become more organized this morning. NHC has labeled this system Invest 91L, and is giving it a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by 8am Tuesday. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of 91L to potentially allow further development. The main negatives for development are the current phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation, which favors downward motion over the tropical Atlantic, and the fact that 91L is too close to the Equator to take much advantage of the Earth's spin to get spinning. Last night's ASCAT pass of the region did show a large region of westerly winds south of 91L, indicating that a surface circulation is trying to form. Satellite imagery shows that the intensity and areal extent of 91L's heavy thunderstorms is increasing. However, there are no signs of a surface circulation, and low-level spiral bands and upper-level outflow are not apparent yet.

Forecast for 91L
There is strong model support for 91L developing into a tropical depression. The GFS, ECMWF, NOGAPS, and UKMET models all develop 91L into a tropical depression by Tuesday or Wednesday. A west to west-northwest motion is predicted, and residents of the Lesser Antilles Islands should anticipate the possibility of a tropical storm arriving in the islands as early as Thursday. It is possible that 91L would pass northeast of the islands, as predicted by the UKMET model, and it is too early to speculate on which of the islands is at most risk. As the storm approaches the Lesser Antilles late this week, 91L will encounter a strong upper-level low pressure system centered north of Puerto Rico. This upper-level low will likely bring high levels of wind shear to the waters just north of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. Thus, if 91L stays to the south, in the Caribbean, it is far more likely to attain hurricane status than if it pushes north of the Caribbean. As always, long range forecasts of this sort are speculative, and it is too early to reliably say what the long-term risks of 91L becoming a hurricane are. The latest intensity forecast from the SHIPS model shows 91L peaking in strength four days from now, then weakening as it encounters the high wind shear area north of Puerto Rico.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 91L.

Next update
I'll have an update Monday morning.

Jeff Masters
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3801. Cotillion 12:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:


you're showing your young age, hahahha...they USED to all have female names till they decided it was more PC to make them boy-girl.


Well, before that they had names like Easy and Love for storms.

Can't think why that system only lasted 2 or 3 seasons...
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3802. clwstmchasr 12:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Still think the models are wrong.


How far wrong? Many of the models are over 600miles east of FL. Even if they are all off by a few hundred miles Fl is safe (then maybe SC/NC) could be in its track?
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3803. aquak9 12:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
HPC preliminary.... searching for a certain "water puppy" :)




ok, what's the date on that last image, nrtiwl??
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3805. breald 12:58 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
northern eye wall- that ain't nice at all!!


Why not?
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3806. java162 12:58 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Models will be wrong until which time they are right.



lol... i like that..

and when will we know that they are right? lol
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3807. divdog 12:58 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Models will be wrong until which time they are right.
huh ?????????????????????????
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3809. Prgal 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:


you're showing your young age, hahahha...they USED to all have female names till they decided it was more PC to make them boy-girl.


I dont see the comment I made earlier but I can post it again. I thanked you for the comment ("my young age") but I am over 40....wishing I was younger thou
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3810. alaina1085 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:


Well, before that they had names like Easy and Love for storms.

Can't think why that system only lasted 2 or 3 seasons...

LOL!!
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3811. CaribBoy 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
91L is so compact as it is usually the case with ATL storms
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3812. aquak9 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
cotillion- I think they oughtta have a bigger range of names..."hurricane habanero" has a ring to it.
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3813. sporteguy03 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting clwstmchasr:


How far wrong? Many of the models are over 600miles east of FL. Even if they are all off by a few hundred miles Fl is safe (then maybe SC/NC) could be in its track?


I am really dissapointed in the Euro so far.
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3815. CaribBoy 12:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


My Track.

Any Comments?


good
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3816. Snowlover123 1:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


My Track.

Any Comments?


Looks reasonable. Very well done. You take into account of the weakness in the ridge (unlike some of our technological friends.) Do you think this is a Florida storm or an East Coast storm?
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3817. aquak9 1:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
PRGal- if you're over 40, you don't remember them all being female? exactly like you said, cause they always change their minds.
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3818. Cotillion 1:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Question about TCs and anti-cyclones:

Do all TCs form one, just to varying potencies?

Or, does it vary based on each individual cyclone and/or atmospheric conditions?

Why does it differ? (As some storms build ones which allow them to intensity whenever they ever feel like it, yet others get ripped apart as soon as they can just smell wind shear.)
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3819. Orcasystems 1:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting pottery:
Good Morning....

Orca, thanks for the 'dissipation' on the area east of me.
Expect showers tomorrow, as agreed.


You asked nice..it was the least we could do :)

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3820. java162 1:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


My Track.

Any Comments?


looks reasonable
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3821. Prgal 1:01 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
PRGal- if you're over 40, you don't remember them all being female? exactly like you said, cause they always change their minds.


And before that names of saints. And yeah, I am over 40...like I said, I was just trying to quote what a friend of mine said.
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3822. WeatherNerdPR 1:01 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


My Track.

Any Comments?

I'm in the cone. Yipee. :D
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3824. sporteguy03 1:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Don't think anywhere on the SE Coast is safe when the HPC has 91L pratically on the Cape Canaveral area.
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3825. RitaEvac 1:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Thinking Bahamas and a ridge driving it westward through Florida Straits
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3826. stormwatcherCI 1:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Depends on how far west it gets. Models still show it moving at least 285-290, and it's not.
Quoting StormW:


Depends on how far west it gets. Models still show it moving at least 285-290, and it's not.
How do you see it moving ? More westerly ?
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3827. nrtiwlnvragn 1:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:


ok, what's the date on that last image, nrtiwl??


7 days... just messin with ya
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3828. bwi 1:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
91L could go pretty close to middle atlantic buoy 41041
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3830. Hardcoreweather2010 1:04 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Updated model runs from the NHC

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3831. Cotillion 1:04 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
cotillion- I think they oughtta have a bigger range of names..."hurricane habanero" has a ring to it.

Haha. Tropical Storm Jalapeno. I suppose they'd have to keep Bhut Jolokia for special occasions.

I do think they'll run outta 'I' names, eventually. There are only so many out there.
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3833. RitaEvac 1:05 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Andrew was forecasted to have a 50/50 chance of even surviving, and if it did to go out to sea remember, and we all knew what happened
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3834. pottery 1:05 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


You asked nice..it was the least we could do :)


Much Appreciated......
The Sun is Bright, the Birdies are in Song, and All is Well.
Now, because of the above, I have to go and dig holes (under the Calabash tree, actually), for new Anthurium plants.
But thats not really your fault.
I am under instruction from a Higher Authority. And I know my place.........

Laters.
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3835. aquak9 1:05 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


7 days... just messin with ya


it's ok, eyewall. I've been under a protective dome since 1964.

A'course, Rainman32's post last night of analogous years and named tracks DID include Dora..
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3836. Chicklit 1:06 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    


plop. plop. plop...
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3838. SLU 1:06 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 12.3N LONCUR = 40.3W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 13KT

LATM12 = 11.2N LONM12 = 38.0W DIRM12 = 300DEG SPDM12 = 12KT
LATM24 = 10.1N LONM24 = 36.1W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 50NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1006MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD = 180NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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3840. Prgal 1:07 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:


plop. plop. plop...


:-O
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3841. aquak9 1:08 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:



Haha. Tropical Storm Jalapeno. I suppose they'd have to keep Bhut Jolokia for special occasions.

I do think they'll run outta 'I' names, eventually. There are only so many out there.


"I" names? exactly!! what's up with Igor?? I mean REALLY. Would ANYONE name their child Igor? Does anyone even KNOW an Igor in real life??
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3843. breald 1:09 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:



Haha. Tropical Storm Jalapeno. I suppose they'd have to keep Bhut Jolokia for special occasions.

I do think they'll run outta 'I' names, eventually. There are only so many out there.


They should name the hurricanes after food. Hurricane Pizza, cheeseburger, french fries. I am sure Pizza Hut and McDonalds would agree.
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3844. Chicklit 1:09 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Prgal:


:-O
oh my!
Sitting on the edge of my seat, waiting for Dr. Masters' update.
Oh no!
Working diligently concentrating on the tasks at hand.
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3845. CaribBoy 1:09 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting SLU:
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 12.3N LONCUR = 40.3W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 13KT

LATM12 = 11.2N LONM12 = 38.0W DIRM12 = 300DEG SPDM12 = 12KT
LATM24 = 10.1N LONM24 = 36.1W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 50NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1006MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD = 180NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM


What I'm seeing is more 280°
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3846. DaytonaBeachWatcher 1:09 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
According to NHC the area behind 91L isnt even a tropical wave, interesting since it seems to have developed a nice spin even though it is within the ITCZ. Watching this area today also.
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3847. FSUstormnut 1:10 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Go here, and place the LAT/LONG overlay on it. Look to the NE as well.

CATL VIS LOOP


looks due west...
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3848. Snowlover123 1:10 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


It all Depends.

Unless you have a crystal ball you cannot predict what will happen in 5-6 days+.


Ha! U got that right! ;)
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3849. RitaEvac 1:10 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Go here, and place the LAT/LONG overlay on it. Look to the NE as well.

CATL VIS LOOP


west
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3850. TXnovice 1:10 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Good morning all! Greetings from a hot, steamy Pearland, TX. I am still learning here, but it looks like the earliest recon flight would be a possible NOAA flight on Wednesday. Does that look correct to those of you who can read these flight plans?
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