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Tropical Depression Four arrives
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:23 PM GMT on August 02, 2010 +2
Tropical Depression Four has made its debut over the mid-Atlantic Ocean, about 1300 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands. TD 4 is a small storm with very limited heavy thunderstorm activity, and is not very impressive at present. Wind shear is a low 5 - 10 knots, sea surface temperatures are at record highs, and the dust and dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) are far enough to the north of TD 4 to allow further development, though. The main negative for development appears to be the storm's small size, which makes it vulnerable to modest increases in wind shear or dry air entrainment. Satellite imagery shows that TD 4 is gradually developing low-level spiral bands, but the intensity and areal extent of heavy thunderstorms has not increased over the past few hours. Upper-level outflow is not apparent yet.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of TD 4.

Forecast for TD 4
The latest 12Z (8am EDT) models are fairly unified taking TD 4 to the west-northwest at 15 - 20 mph for the next three days. This would bring squalls from the storm's outer rainbands to the northern Lesser Antilles Islands, such as Antigua and Barbuda, by Wednesday afternoon. The center of TD 4 should pass to the northeast of the islands. A more southerly track through Puerto Rico, as predicted by the Canadian model, cannot be ruled out, though. As TD 4 makes its closest approach to the Lesser Antilles on Wednesday night, the storm will begin to encounter strong upper-level westerly winds associated with the counter-clockwise flow of air around an upper-level low pressure system centered between Bermuda and Puerto Rico. The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that these winds will cause wind shear to rise to the moderate level, 10 - 20 knots, by Tuesday night, and to the high level, 20 - 30 knots, by Wednesday. There is a great deal of dry air associated with the upper level low that should cause problems for TD 4, as well. The high wind shear and dry air should greatly weaken and may destroy TD 4 late this week. NHC is giving TD 4 a 20% chance of attaining hurricane status by 8am EDT on Thursday. I think the storm will probably become Tropical Storm Colin tonight, and peak in strength on Wednesday as a 55 - 65 mph tropical storm. I agree that a 20% chance of it reaching hurricane strength is a reasonable forecast.

A trough of low pressure is expected to move off the U.S. East Coast on Friday, and this trough may be strong enough to recurve TD 4 far enough to the northwest that the storm will threaten Bermuda. The GFDL model predicts TD 4 could pass very near to Bermuda on Saturday. It is uncertain at this time if the trough will be strong enough to recurve TD 4 all the way out to sea early next week, or leave the storm behind to potentially move westward again into the U.S. East Coast. The amount of wind shear that might be present early next week is also highly uncertain.

Next update
I'll have an update Tuesday morning by 8:30 EDT.

Jeff Masters
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651. MississippiWx 10:40 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Kearn:
You all have no idea how hard I am laughing about this hurricane season.

Before and at the beginning of the season, people were screaming "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE HURRICANE APOCOLYPSE"

Now, we're in the second highest month of activity and we have yet to have 3 storms.

Great predictions, guys.

/sarcasm


I think I might save this post for the end of the season and re-post it once it's over. For the time being, poofage!
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652. Thundercloud01221991 10:40 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
which wave is that that GFS is developing... the one in the western car. or the eastern car
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653. Tazmanian 10:40 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
that wave needs too be 92L i wunder i f the nhc was say any thing about at the next two
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654. Levi32 10:41 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Good evening!


Hey Storm, that other wave is making noise now too, might be a busy week!
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658. Levi32 10:42 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
which wave is that that GFS is developing... the one in the western car. or the eastern car


Eastern.
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659. MiamiHurricanes09 10:42 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I think I might save this post for the end of the season and re-post it once it's over. For the time being, poofage!
You have no idea how many posts I've saved...LOL.
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663. HurricaneSwirl 10:42 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
I don't know what is scarier between the two:

Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Very intense cyclone making landfall along the Texas/Louisiana border.

Day 8:
Quoting Kearn:
You all have no idea how hard I am laughing about this hurricane season.

Before and at the beginning of the season, people were screaming "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE HURRICANE APOCOLYPSE"

Now, we're in the second highest month of activity and we have yet to have 3 storms.

Great predictions, guys.

/sarcasm


Hmmm.. Ignorance or hurricane, ignorance or hurricane..
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664. Tazmanian 10:42 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting alfabob:
What is the general consensus on 91L making it over 20N before 60W? I feel like these models are still missing something, or being initialized incorrectly.



its TD 4
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666. Levi32 10:43 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
The wave in the eastern Caribbean has decent amplification for its location with an 850mb vort max comparable to TD 4's:

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667. MiamiHurricanes09 10:43 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Oh, GREAT!
LMAO! Priceless.
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668. Levi32 10:43 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Ya mean busy month? MJO returning earlier than forecast.


Yeah, busy couple months lol.
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669. gordydunnot 10:43 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
574 you got it Toyota. Oh well they used to have it. Anything is and has been pulled off by these storms.
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670. Drakoen 10:44 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
It's only one run on the GFS 18z. But if that run did come true we would have Danielle and Earl.
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671. Tazmanian 10:44 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
The wave in the eastern Caribbean has decent amplification for its location with an 850mb vort max comparable to TD 4's:




92L soon?
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673. Hhunter 10:44 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Oh it isn't 04L it's the tropical wave in the eastern Caribbean. Becomes a hurricane in the GOMEX. There is also 04L part 2 in the Atlantic.

Day 8:




kinda how camelle developed...
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674. Tazmanian 10:44 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
and a good way too get your commet # post up
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676. Levi32 10:45 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
You can see its presence on the far eastern edge of this ASCAT pass just north of Trinidad.

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677. MississippiWx 10:45 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
The wave in the eastern Caribbean has decent amplification for its location with an 850mb vort max comparable to TD 4's:



Needs to gain latitude. The trof to the NW might help out that problem.
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679. Drakoen 10:45 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
NOGAPS and CMC 12z also have a storm forming in the Caribbean.
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680. RyanFSU 10:46 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
The GFS model was upgraded on July 28th at 12z and has perhaps created its second bogus-cane, a problem it had in the early 2000s a la the CMC today. Yesterday, GFS had a cyclone in the Bay of Bengal. Today, with the 18z run, a Gulf of Mexico hurricane.

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681. Tazmanian 10:46 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
You can see its presence on the far eastern edge of this ASCAT pass just north of Trinidad.




is it showing a closed low?
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682. NOSinger 10:46 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Storm or Levi....I see where the GFS is hinting at a nasty something next week in the gulf...I leave for a cruise this sat....Is the GFS a reliable/accurate this far out...on average?? TIA!!
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683. ho77yw00d 10:47 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


A worst case scenario for NOLA.


I know that... Danielle is my name thought you were saying hi to me lol but I know how bad that track is trust me I am on the west coast of fla we dont need oil and NOLA has had enough devestation
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684. CaribBoy 10:47 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:


That's close to me.
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685. Levi32 10:47 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



is it showing a closed low?


No just a nice tropical wave axis. This isn't really a significant threat until it gets west of 75W.
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686. galvestonhurricane 10:47 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
646. Which model is that?
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687. HurricaneSwirl 10:48 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
18Z GFS gives us weak TS Colin, Hurricane Danielle (looks like a cat 2), and weak TS Earl.
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688. Tazmanian 10:48 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
now may be well see what a hurricane will do with the oil this will be are 1st hurricane oil test
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689. MrstormX 10:48 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Ridging breaking down a bit more then I thought in 5 days which should leave multiple options open for TD-4 which could range from a curve near shore, a slowdown in momentum... or even a direct landfall. Of course a lot of this will also rely on the intensity of the system and whether or not the ULL comes into play.

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690. Tazmanian 10:48 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


No just a nice tropical wave axis. This isn't really a significant threat until it gets west of 75W.



ok
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692. Levi32 10:48 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting NOSinger:
Storm or Levi....I see where the GFS is hinting at a nasty something next week in the gulf...I leave for a cruise this sat....Is the GFS a reliable/accurate this far out...on average?? TIA!!


No model is particularly accurate more than 5 days out. We've known that the wave in the eastern Caribbean has to be watched and this is only the first model run to show development, so for now I would just watch it. And, as I tell everyone who says they're going on a cruise, I'm pretty sure they will keep you out of the way of any tropical mischief....they stay in communication with the weather offices to avoid running into a storm.
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693. ho77yw00d 10:49 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Good evening!


Good evening Sir:0)
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694. HurricaneSwirl 10:49 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting galvestonhurricane:
646. Which model is that?


GFS
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695. Tazmanian 10:49 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
18Z GFS gives us weak TS Colin, Hurricane Danielle (looks like a cat 2), and weak TS Earl.



the 18z was showing s strong hurricane in the gulf
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696. CaribBoy 10:49 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
TD4 making a long west wobble
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698. Patrap 10:49 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
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699. Levi32 10:50 PM GMT on August 02, 2010    
Quoting RyanFSU:
The GFS model was upgraded on July 28th at 12z and has perhaps created its second bogus-cane, a problem it had in the early 2000s a la the CMC today. Yesterday, GFS had a cyclone in the Bay of Bengal. Today, with the 18z run, a Gulf of Mexico hurricane.



Perhaps, looks overdone on the 18z which it tends to do, but the wave that it develops is not without potential.
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