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Pakistan's Katrina; 94L could develop in Gulf of Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:23 PM GMT on August 10, 2010 +4
The monsoon season of 2010 continues to generate havoc in Asia, as lingering rains from the latest monsoon low continue to affect hard-hit Pakistan, China, and India. At least 702 are now reported dead and 1,042 are missing in China's Gansu province, due to torrential monsoon rains that triggered a deadly landslide and extreme flooding on Sunday. At least 137 died in floods and landslides in the neighboring Indian state of Kashmir over the weekend, with 500 people missing. Monsoon flooding and landslides have also killed at least 65 people in Afghanistan in the past two weeks. But no country has suffered more than Pakistan, where monsoon floods have destroyed huge portions of the nation's infrastructure and killed at least 1600 people. The number of people affected or needing assistance has been estimated to be as high as 13 million people--8% of the nation's population. The disaster is the worst natural disaster in Pakistan's history, and is rightfully being called "Pakistan's Katrina."


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Monsoons: a primer
In summer, the sun warms up land areas more strongly than ocean areas. This occurs because wind and ocean turbulence mix the ocean's absorbed heat into a "mixed layer" approximately 50 meters deep, whereas on land, the sun's heat penetrates at a slow rate to a limited depth. Furthermore, due to its molecular properties, water has the ability to absorb more heat than the solid materials that make up land. As a result of this summertime differential heating of land and ocean, a low pressure region featuring rising air develops over land areas. Moisture-laden ocean winds blow towards the low pressure region and are drawn upwards once over land. The rising air expands and cools, condensing its moisture into some of the heaviest rains on Earth--the monsoon. Monsoons operate via the same principle as the familiar summer afternoon sea breeze, but on a grand scale. Each summer, monsoons affect every continent on Earth except Antarctica, and are responsible for life-giving rains that sustain the lives of billions of people. In India, home for over 1.1 billion people, the monsoon provides 80% of the annual rainfall. However, monsoons have their dark side as well--hundreds of people in India and surrounding nations die in an average year in floods and landslides triggered by heavy monsoon rains. The most deadly flooding events usually come from monsoon depressions (also known as monsoon lows.) A monsoon depression is similar to (but larger than) a tropical depression. Both are spinning storms hundreds of kilometers in diameter with sustained winds of 50 - 55 kph (30 - 35 mph), nearly calm winds at their center, and generate very heavy rains. Each summer, approximately 6 - 7 monsoon depressions form over the Bay of Bengal and track westwards across India. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in the El Niño-weakened monsoon season of 2009. This year's first monsoon depression formed on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela. A second monsoon depression arrived in Pakistan on August 3, and has brought additional heavy rains.

Are the this year's monsoon floods due to global warming?
No single weather event can be attributed to climate change, but a warming climate does load the dice in favor of heavier extreme precipitation events. This occurs because more water vapor can evaporate into a warmer atmosphere, increasing the chances of record heavy downpours. In a study published in Science in 2006, Goswami et al. found that the level of heavy rainfall activity in the monsoon over India had more than doubled in the 50 years since the 1950s, leading to an increased disaster potential from heavy flooding. Moderate and weak rain events decreased over the past 50 years, leaving the total amount of rain deposited by the monsoon roughly constant. The authors commented, "These findings are in tune with model projections and some observations that indicate an increase in heavy rain events and a decrease in weak events under global warming scenarios." We should expect to see an increased number of disastrous monsoon floods in coming decades if the climate continues to warm as expected. Since the population continues to increase at a rapid rate in the region, death tolls from monsoon flooding disasters are likely to climb dramatically in coming decades.

References
Goswami, et al., 2006, " Increasing Trend of Extreme Rain Events Over India in a Warming Environment", Science, 1 December 2006:Vol. 314. no. 5804, pp. 1442 - 1445 DOI: 10.1126/science.1132027

Dave's Landslide blog has some great discussions of the flooding and destruction wrought by the terrible monsoon rains this year in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, and China.

Donations urgently needed
The massive humanitarian crisis in Pakistan requires a huge response by the international community. Wunderblogger Dr. Ricky Rood, author of our Climate Change Blog, has a friend working in Pakistan who underscored the desperate situation there:

This is the worst natural disaster in the history of Pakistan in terms of number of people and area affected. Although not as many people have been killed as in the 2005 earthquake, we have already nearly 900,000 displaced persons thus far just in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Crops are destroyed; shops, hotels, and other business have simply been swept away in Swat, which had just this year been cleared of Taliban and was on the way to recovery; and districts closer to Peshawar and parts of Peshawar district are still, or perhaps again after yesterday/today, under water. After the immediate emergency response, it will be years of rebuilding to replace what has been lost and to start to develop again. I know you have the power to control the weather, so if you cold give us a week or two without more rain at least we could keep the helicopters flying and give people a chance to go to their homes, recover what might still be there, set up tents if we can get enough to them, and start to clean up."

She gave the following recommendations for charities that do work in the flood-ravaged zone, and are effective at getting aid to those who need it the most:

Doctors Without Borders

The International Red Cross

MERLIN medical relief charity

The mobile giving service mGive allows one to text the word "SWAT" to 50555. The text will result in a $10 donation to the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) Pakistan Flood Relief Effort.

She mentioned that it is better to send money to the organizations doing the relief work than to try to organize shipments of goods.


Figure 2. Morning radar image of 94L from the Key West radar.

94L
A 1010 mb low pressure system (94L) near the Florida Keys is generating disorganized heavy thunderstorms over Florida and the adjacent waters, and could become a tropical or subtropical depression as early as Wednesday. Current Key West radar shows the rotation of the storm, but the thunderstorm activity has not yet organized into low-level spiral bands. A few areas in the Keys and extreme South Florida have seen 1 - 2 inches of rain thus far from 94L. Wind shear is currently a moderate 10 - 20 knots over 94L, and water temperatures are very warm, 30 - 31°C. Water vapor satellite imagery shows that 94L is forming beneath an upper-level low with plenty of dry air, and there is a substantial flow of dry, continental air wrapping into 94L. This dry air is retarding the development of 94L, and may force the storm to organize into a subtropical storm instead of a tropical storm. A subtropical storm typically has a large, cloud free center of circulation, with very heavy thunderstorm activity in a band removed at least 100 miles from the center. The difference between a subtropical storm and a tropical storm is not that important as far as the winds they can generate, but tropical storms generate more rain. There is no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. If a subtropical storm intensifies enough to have hurricane force winds, than it must have become fully tropical. It usually takes at least two days for a subtropical storm to make the transition to a tropical storm.

Forecast for 94L
The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the Gulf of Mexico this week. The storm's main problem will be dry air, and I don't expect 94L to undergo rapid development. Most of the models bring 94L ashore over Louisiana by Thursday, though the GFDL model predicts 94L could stall off the coast and not make landfall until Friday. If 94L does make landfall Thursday, it is unlikely to be a hurricane, due to all the dry air aloft in the Gulf. However, the GFDL model is predicting that the 1-day delay in landfall to Friday will allow 94L enough time to grow fully tropical and intensify into a Category 1 hurricane. I think this solution is unlikely. Storms that get their start underneath a cold, dry, upper-level low very rarely attain hurricane strength in three days. A 40 - 50 mph tropical or subtropical storm at landfall Thursday or Friday is a much more reasonable forecast.

93L
A tropical wave (Invest 93) in the middle Atlantic Ocean is close to tropical depression status. The disturbance has a well-defined surface circulation, but only a limited amount of heavy thunderstorm activity, thanks to dry air and wind shear of 10 - 20 knots affecting it due to a large upper-level low pressure system to the west. Wind shear is expected to stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next four days, which is low enough that 93L could become a tropical depression at any time during that period. NHC is giving 93L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. The GFS, GFDL, and HWRF models predict 93L will develop, and the GFDL forecasts that the storm will become a hurricane. A strong trough of low pressure moving across the central Atlantic is recurving 93L to the north, and the system should only be a concern to shipping interests. None of the reliable computer models are forecasting tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days, other than for 93L and 94L.

Moscow hits 99°F again today
Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 37°C (99°F) today, the 28th day in row that temperatures have exceeded 30°C (86°F) in Moscow. The average high temperature for August 10 is 21°C (69°F). Moscow's high temperature have averaged 15°C (27°F) above average for the first ten days of August--a truly extraordinary anomaly. Smog and smoke from wildfires continued to blanket the city today, with the Russian Meteorological Agency reporting that pollution due to carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, and hydrocarbons exceeding the safe limit by factors of 1.2 - 2.2. Air pollution levels peaked at 6.5 times the safe level on Saturday. As I reported in yesterday's post, the heat wave has likely killed at least 15,000 people in Russia so far. There is some slight relief in sight--the latest forecast for Moscow calls for high temperatures of 31 - 33°C (88 - 91°F) Wednesday though Sunday--still 20°F above normal, but better than the 27°F above normal so far this month.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 94 and 93
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks
3) Status of La Niña

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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601. Stormchaser2007 5:51 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Looks like the convection over the center has become weak.

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602. ConchHondros 5:51 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Projected heat index today for OKC/Metro area 108F
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603. weatherwart 5:51 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Two's up.
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604. Tropicaddict 5:51 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
still at 70% on the TWO
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605. MississippiWx 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
70% for 94L
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606. wfyweather 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    

Atlantic Tropical Weather Outlook
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


000
ABNT20 KNHC 101750
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT TUE AUG 10 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO...ABOUT 100 MILES WEST OF SOUTHWEST COAST OF THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA...IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND SQUALLS.
SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN
ORGANIZATION TODAY. HOWEVER...THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT IDEAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. AN AIR FORCE PLANE IS APPROACHING THE
SYSTEM AND WILL HELP TO DETERMINE IF A TROPICAL DEPRESSION IS
FORMING...AND IF SO...WATCHES OR WARNINGS COULD BE REQUIRED FOR A
PORTION OF THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST AS EARLY AS THIS
AFTERNOON. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH.

ALTHOUGH SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ABOUT
850 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE LEEWARDS ISLANDS HAS INCREASED A
LITTLE TODAY...THE SYSTEM REMAINS DISORGANIZED. THE LOW IS FORECAST
TO MOVE TOWARD AN ENVIRONMENT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER...MANY OF THE GLOBAL MODELS
CONTINUE TO FORECAST FORMATION. THERE IS STILL A HIGH CHANCE...60
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE NORTH AND NORTH NORTHEAST OVER
THE ATLANTIC.

CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT
700 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS IS MOVING WESTWARD
AT ABOUT 10 TO 15 MPH. DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO
OCCUR. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING
A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA




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607. IKE 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Looks like the convection over the center has become weak.



Be careful...you'll wind up in the downcaster club.
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608. MiamiHurricanes09 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
94L: 70%
93L: 60%
PGI25L: 10%
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609. ShenValleyFlyFish 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting msgambler:
Yeah, but holding that squirrel up to the leaf can be a challenge most af the time.
The Mississippi Squirrel Revival
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610. divdog 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


That's good news.

*Dog-lover*
lets hope the grouper don't start growing 3 eyes or 2 tails
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611. wayfaringstranger 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Ok that looks like a TD in the least.
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612. unf97 5:52 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
NHC just placed a yellow circle over the AOI east of the Windward Islands.
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613. mrsalagranny 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT TUE AUG 10 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO...ABOUT 100 MILES WEST OF SOUTHWEST COAST OF THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA...IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND SQUALLS.
SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN
ORGANIZATION TODAY. HOWEVER...THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT IDEAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. AN AIR FORCE PLANE IS APPROACHING THE
SYSTEM AND WILL HELP TO DETERMINE IF A TROPICAL DEPRESSION IS
FORMING...AND IF SO...WATCHES OR WARNINGS COULD BE REQUIRED FOR A
PORTION OF THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST AS EARLY AS THIS
AFTERNOON. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH.
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614. weatherwart 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Pop, pop, pop. Welcome to August and the ICTZ!
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615. 69Viking 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Getting busy!

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616. wfyweather 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting unf97:
NHC just placed a yellow circle over the AOI east of the Windward Islands.


AS they should.
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618. LoneStarWeather 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Radar's down for maintenance...LOL

Classic!! LOL!
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619. scott39 5:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
I wonder how big 94L is going to be if it developes?
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620. reedzone 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:


000
ABNT20 KNHC 101750
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT TUE AUG 10 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO...ABOUT 100 MILES WEST OF SOUTHWEST COAST OF THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA...IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND SQUALLS.
SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN
ORGANIZATION TODAY. HOWEVER...THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT IDEAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. AN AIR FORCE PLANE IS APPROACHING THE
SYSTEM AND WILL HELP TO DETERMINE IF A TROPICAL DEPRESSION IS
FORMING...AND IF SO...WATCHES OR WARNINGS COULD BE REQUIRED FOR A
PORTION OF THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST AS EARLY AS THIS
AFTERNOON. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH.

ALTHOUGH SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ABOUT
850 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE LEEWARDS ISLANDS HAS INCREASED A
LITTLE TODAY...THE SYSTEM REMAINS DISORGANIZED. THE LOW IS FORECAST
TO MOVE TOWARD AN ENVIRONMENT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER...MANY OF THE GLOBAL MODELS
CONTINUE TO FORECAST FORMATION. THERE IS STILL A HIGH CHANCE...60
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE NORTH AND NORTH NORTHEAST OVER
THE ATLANTIC.

CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT
700 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS IS MOVING WESTWARD
AT ABOUT 10 TO 15 MPH. DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO
OCCUR. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING
A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA



I was right, they did say a TD is forming and advisories may be issued.. sweet!
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621. Stormchaser2007 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Be careful...you'll wind up in the downcaster club.


LOL

Tell me about it.
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622. neonlazer 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
"THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT IDEAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT" Are the looking at the ULL being a problem with the dry air? With low shear and warm SST's it seems it could take off..
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623. sailfish01 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Confirmed Ted Stevens is dead. Ironic but this was his second plane crash in Alaska:

On Dec. 4, 1978, Stevens was a passenger on a plane that crashed while landing at Anchorage International Airport. Five people were killed in the crash, including his first wife Ann. In 2000, the airport was renamed the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport

Word on O'keef is still not in. 5 of 7 people on board dead.

Very Sad
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624. NEwxguy 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
LOL,I'm curious to see if this debate over wind and wind gust can carry on the rest of the day. Anybody won't to take that bet?
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625. NASA101 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
I am surprised that they only have the AOI neat 50W at only 10% - looks pretty good on visible Sat, deserved atleast 20%!!? I guess NHC knows more than I...
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626. Thundercloud01221991 5:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:


I was right, they did say a TD is forming and advisories may be issued.. sweet!


not quite... they said that recon will determine if a depression is forming
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627. weatherwart 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Oops. lmao! ITCZ.. I need more coffee.
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628. nrtiwlnvragn 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Miami NWS Mesoscale Analysis


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629. TankHead93 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Brain Norcross on the TWC! :)
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630. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
POLL TIME!!!

Q: At what time will Invest 94L become Tropical Depression?

A. Never
B. Sometime before 5 PM
C. 5 PM
D. 8 PM
E. Sometime After
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631. Stormchaser2007 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
94L:
"However...the environment is not ideal for
significant development."

93L:
"However...many of the global models
continue to forecast formation"



Interesting tid-bits here.

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632. xcool 5:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
about getting ready busy oh boy
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633. IKE 5:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO...ABOUT 100 MILES WEST OF SOUTHWEST COAST OF THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA...IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND SQUALLS.
SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN
ORGANIZATION TODAY. HOWEVER...THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT IDEAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT.
......

That is great news! Looks like Dr. Masters may be correct.
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634. divdog 5:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:


I was right, they did say a TD is forming and advisories may be issued.. sweet!
patting yourself on the back is so cache ..
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635. reedzone 5:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
POLL TIME!!!

Q: At what time will Invest 94L become Tropical Depression?

A. Never
B. Sometime before 5 PM
C. 5 PM
D. 8 PM
E. Sometime After


C.
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636. msgambler 5:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
I hope it doesn't tighten up too much or Mobile may not even get any rain out of this.
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637. WeatherNerdPR 5:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
94L:
"However...the environment is not ideal for
significant development."
93L:
"However...many of the global models
continue to forecast formation"


Interesting tid-bits here.


Interesting indeed.
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639. floridastorm 5:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Bryon Norcross on the Weather Channel! Sweeeettt
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642. weatherwart 5:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
POLL TIME!!!

Q: At what time will Invest 94L become Tropical Depression?

A. Never
B. Sometime before 5 PM
C. 5 PM
D. 8 PM
E. Sometime After

E.
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643. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

hes wrong downcaster


We dont know that, Rob
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644. sdcbassman 5:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting divdog:
patting yourself on the back is so cache ..


Agreed. Reed gets off on that!
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645. Floodman 5:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting ConchHondros:
Ted Stevens aid says dead


Yeah, Dittman says it's so...he survived one plane crash in '78. No news on O'Keefe yet though
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646. Stormchaser2007 5:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
The NHC doesnt like it when their multi-billion dollar models dont pick up on these things.

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647. leo305 5:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting floridastorm:
Bryon Norcross on the Weather Channel! Sweeeettt


WAIT ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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648. WeatherNerdPR 5:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting sailfish01:
Confirmed Ted Stevens is dead. Ironic but this was his second plane crash in Alaska:

On Dec. 4, 1978, Stevens was a passenger on a plane that crashed while landing at Anchorage International Airport. Five people were killed in the crash, including his first wife Ann. In 2000, the airport was renamed the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport

Word on O'keef is still not in. 5 of 7 people on board dead.

Very Sad

=,(
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649. IKE 5:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


Hey Ike ... aren't you Founder and CEO of that club?


Yes sir I am...and darn proud of it.

Hey MiamiHurricanes09....isn't that great news about the environment not being ideal for significant development of 94L?
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650. Floodman 5:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
The Mississippi Squirrel Revival


Somehow I knew you were going to bring that up
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651. hurricanehunter27 5:59 PM GMT on August 10, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
POLL TIME!!!

Q: At what time will Invest 94L become Tropical Depression?

A. Never
B. Sometime before 5 PM
C. 5 PM
D. 8 PM
E. Sometime After

C
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