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Pakistan's Katrina; 94L could develop in Gulf of Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:23 PM GMT on August 10, 2010 +4
The monsoon season of 2010 continues to generate havoc in Asia, as lingering rains from the latest monsoon low continue to affect hard-hit Pakistan, China, and India. At least 702 are now reported dead and 1,042 are missing in China's Gansu province, due to torrential monsoon rains that triggered a deadly landslide and extreme flooding on Sunday. At least 137 died in floods and landslides in the neighboring Indian state of Kashmir over the weekend, with 500 people missing. Monsoon flooding and landslides have also killed at least 65 people in Afghanistan in the past two weeks. But no country has suffered more than Pakistan, where monsoon floods have destroyed huge portions of the nation's infrastructure and killed at least 1600 people. The number of people affected or needing assistance has been estimated to be as high as 13 million people--8% of the nation's population. The disaster is the worst natural disaster in Pakistan's history, and is rightfully being called "Pakistan's Katrina."


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Monsoons: a primer
In summer, the sun warms up land areas more strongly than ocean areas. This occurs because wind and ocean turbulence mix the ocean's absorbed heat into a "mixed layer" approximately 50 meters deep, whereas on land, the sun's heat penetrates at a slow rate to a limited depth. Furthermore, due to its molecular properties, water has the ability to absorb more heat than the solid materials that make up land. As a result of this summertime differential heating of land and ocean, a low pressure region featuring rising air develops over land areas. Moisture-laden ocean winds blow towards the low pressure region and are drawn upwards once over land. The rising air expands and cools, condensing its moisture into some of the heaviest rains on Earth--the monsoon. Monsoons operate via the same principle as the familiar summer afternoon sea breeze, but on a grand scale. Each summer, monsoons affect every continent on Earth except Antarctica, and are responsible for life-giving rains that sustain the lives of billions of people. In India, home for over 1.1 billion people, the monsoon provides 80% of the annual rainfall. However, monsoons have their dark side as well--hundreds of people in India and surrounding nations die in an average year in floods and landslides triggered by heavy monsoon rains. The most deadly flooding events usually come from monsoon depressions (also known as monsoon lows.) A monsoon depression is similar to (but larger than) a tropical depression. Both are spinning storms hundreds of kilometers in diameter with sustained winds of 50 - 55 kph (30 - 35 mph), nearly calm winds at their center, and generate very heavy rains. Each summer, approximately 6 - 7 monsoon depressions form over the Bay of Bengal and track westwards across India. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in the El Niño-weakened monsoon season of 2009. This year's first monsoon depression formed on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela. A second monsoon depression arrived in Pakistan on August 3, and has brought additional heavy rains.

Are the this year's monsoon floods due to global warming?
No single weather event can be attributed to climate change, but a warming climate does load the dice in favor of heavier extreme precipitation events. This occurs because more water vapor can evaporate into a warmer atmosphere, increasing the chances of record heavy downpours. In a study published in Science in 2006, Goswami et al. found that the level of heavy rainfall activity in the monsoon over India had more than doubled in the 50 years since the 1950s, leading to an increased disaster potential from heavy flooding. Moderate and weak rain events decreased over the past 50 years, leaving the total amount of rain deposited by the monsoon roughly constant. The authors commented, "These findings are in tune with model projections and some observations that indicate an increase in heavy rain events and a decrease in weak events under global warming scenarios." We should expect to see an increased number of disastrous monsoon floods in coming decades if the climate continues to warm as expected. Since the population continues to increase at a rapid rate in the region, death tolls from monsoon flooding disasters are likely to climb dramatically in coming decades.

References
Goswami, et al., 2006, " Increasing Trend of Extreme Rain Events Over India in a Warming Environment", Science, 1 December 2006:Vol. 314. no. 5804, pp. 1442 - 1445 DOI: 10.1126/science.1132027

Dave's Landslide blog has some great discussions of the flooding and destruction wrought by the terrible monsoon rains this year in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, and China.

Donations urgently needed
The massive humanitarian crisis in Pakistan requires a huge response by the international community. Wunderblogger Dr. Ricky Rood, author of our Climate Change Blog, has a friend working in Pakistan who underscored the desperate situation there:

This is the worst natural disaster in the history of Pakistan in terms of number of people and area affected. Although not as many people have been killed as in the 2005 earthquake, we have already nearly 900,000 displaced persons thus far just in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Crops are destroyed; shops, hotels, and other business have simply been swept away in Swat, which had just this year been cleared of Taliban and was on the way to recovery; and districts closer to Peshawar and parts of Peshawar district are still, or perhaps again after yesterday/today, under water. After the immediate emergency response, it will be years of rebuilding to replace what has been lost and to start to develop again. I know you have the power to control the weather, so if you cold give us a week or two without more rain at least we could keep the helicopters flying and give people a chance to go to their homes, recover what might still be there, set up tents if we can get enough to them, and start to clean up."

She gave the following recommendations for charities that do work in the flood-ravaged zone, and are effective at getting aid to those who need it the most:

Doctors Without Borders

The International Red Cross

MERLIN medical relief charity

The mobile giving service mGive allows one to text the word "SWAT" to 50555. The text will result in a $10 donation to the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) Pakistan Flood Relief Effort.

She mentioned that it is better to send money to the organizations doing the relief work than to try to organize shipments of goods.


Figure 2. Morning radar image of 94L from the Key West radar.

94L
A 1010 mb low pressure system (94L) near the Florida Keys is generating disorganized heavy thunderstorms over Florida and the adjacent waters, and could become a tropical or subtropical depression as early as Wednesday. Current Key West radar shows the rotation of the storm, but the thunderstorm activity has not yet organized into low-level spiral bands. A few areas in the Keys and extreme South Florida have seen 1 - 2 inches of rain thus far from 94L. Wind shear is currently a moderate 10 - 20 knots over 94L, and water temperatures are very warm, 30 - 31°C. Water vapor satellite imagery shows that 94L is forming beneath an upper-level low with plenty of dry air, and there is a substantial flow of dry, continental air wrapping into 94L. This dry air is retarding the development of 94L, and may force the storm to organize into a subtropical storm instead of a tropical storm. A subtropical storm typically has a large, cloud free center of circulation, with very heavy thunderstorm activity in a band removed at least 100 miles from the center. The difference between a subtropical storm and a tropical storm is not that important as far as the winds they can generate, but tropical storms generate more rain. There is no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. If a subtropical storm intensifies enough to have hurricane force winds, than it must have become fully tropical. It usually takes at least two days for a subtropical storm to make the transition to a tropical storm.

Forecast for 94L
The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the Gulf of Mexico this week. The storm's main problem will be dry air, and I don't expect 94L to undergo rapid development. Most of the models bring 94L ashore over Louisiana by Thursday, though the GFDL model predicts 94L could stall off the coast and not make landfall until Friday. If 94L does make landfall Thursday, it is unlikely to be a hurricane, due to all the dry air aloft in the Gulf. However, the GFDL model is predicting that the 1-day delay in landfall to Friday will allow 94L enough time to grow fully tropical and intensify into a Category 1 hurricane. I think this solution is unlikely. Storms that get their start underneath a cold, dry, upper-level low very rarely attain hurricane strength in three days. A 40 - 50 mph tropical or subtropical storm at landfall Thursday or Friday is a much more reasonable forecast.

93L
A tropical wave (Invest 93) in the middle Atlantic Ocean is close to tropical depression status. The disturbance has a well-defined surface circulation, but only a limited amount of heavy thunderstorm activity, thanks to dry air and wind shear of 10 - 20 knots affecting it due to a large upper-level low pressure system to the west. Wind shear is expected to stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next four days, which is low enough that 93L could become a tropical depression at any time during that period. NHC is giving 93L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. The GFS, GFDL, and HWRF models predict 93L will develop, and the GFDL forecasts that the storm will become a hurricane. A strong trough of low pressure moving across the central Atlantic is recurving 93L to the north, and the system should only be a concern to shipping interests. None of the reliable computer models are forecasting tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days, other than for 93L and 94L.

Moscow hits 99°F again today
Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 37°C (99°F) today, the 28th day in row that temperatures have exceeded 30°C (86°F) in Moscow. The average high temperature for August 10 is 21°C (69°F). Moscow's high temperature have averaged 15°C (27°F) above average for the first ten days of August--a truly extraordinary anomaly. Smog and smoke from wildfires continued to blanket the city today, with the Russian Meteorological Agency reporting that pollution due to carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, and hydrocarbons exceeding the safe limit by factors of 1.2 - 2.2. Air pollution levels peaked at 6.5 times the safe level on Saturday. As I reported in yesterday's post, the heat wave has likely killed at least 15,000 people in Russia so far. There is some slight relief in sight--the latest forecast for Moscow calls for high temperatures of 31 - 33°C (88 - 91°F) Wednesday though Sunday--still 20°F above normal, but better than the 27°F above normal so far this month.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 94 and 93
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks
3) Status of La Niña

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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3651. HurricaneHunterGal 1:51 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting LoneStarWeather:

No, looks like WV, visible and rainbow are screwed up.


Whoa yeah, random shot of the Pacific in the Rainbow loop. hah!
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3652. Goldenblack 1:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Mostly lurking this morning. Good morning all!

Noticing the mid level circulation perhaps working down due to persistence of convection off the coast of Port Charlotte/Venice, FL.

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3653. hurricanejunky 1:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I agree IKE something is missing so far this year. I really tought TD 5 would be much more organized this morning and it isn't at all.


The ULL death squad is in full force...
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3654. ChrisDubois 1:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Im not trying to be a wishcaster, but does it seem like some RI is occuring right now. Its going to be an interesting day to say the least.
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3655. Neapolitan 1:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
The way I see it: most--and note I say most--credible, reputable, and professional TC experts are still calling for a far higher than average season. That means people who've studied this stuff in great detail for a long time--often decades--have crunched the numbers and studied the data and sniffed the breezes and put every possible piece of information into the hopper, and have come to the conclusion that, for all intents and purposes, the season hasn't truly gotten underway (or is just starting)--and when it does, look out.

Meanwhile, regular folks on this blog--teachers, construction workers, retired postal clerks, food service types, etc.--who have varying levels of interest in tropical weather, but zero to little in the way of formal and intense training, look at a season that, so far, hasn't lived up to their expectations, and they post one comment after another here about how the season is bust, and they're disappointed, and the professionals have all set unrealistically high numbers, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, world without end, amen.

So lemme ask you: who are you gonna believe? The science expert who lives and breathes tropical weather every waking moment of every waking day, or Jim Bob the tire mechanic who logs onto the site between evening beers, and whose only real TC experience is living next door to a guy whose aunt used to be married to a man who knew somebody who says they think they went through Camille?

My numbers stand: 20/12/6. Until/unless I see something otherwise to make me lower those numbers--such as, say, we're only up to 5-1-0 by the 10th of September--I'm not changing them.
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3656. TexasGulf 1:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
I had posted my predictions for this season in early May. This was based on the (humor) belief that tropical storms live up or down to their names... so their pathology can be predicted by those names.

So far this season, it looks like the score for this method is going to be 2-2-0.

Colin: Colin will spin up at sea, then die out within a day or so. Nobody wants to put up plywood on their windows with spray paint saying "go away Colin". Besides, nobody wants to stand on a beach somewhere waiting for "colin". It wouldn't look good in newspaper headlines either. Colin will go away quickly, un-noticed.

Danielle: Danielle will be a strong tropical storm, bringing much needed rains north through Alabama and Western Florida. Danielle's are nice typically, so there will be no bluster or damage in her wake.


My prediction for the 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season based upon the names of the storms. 17 named storms, 10 hurricanes, 4 major hurricanes. I'm sticking with this prognosis.
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3657. psuweathernewbie 1:53 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
I agree extreme. TD5 has alot going for it if it can wait another 36-48 hours over water. What are your thoughts on that large circulation accompaning a tropical wave at 0-10W and 10-20N?
3658. stillwaiting 1:54 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
94l looks and has the characteristics of a std,lol...pretty choppy in the gom(looking out my window at it right now),lots of white caps winds ese at 15-25,gusting to around 30mph!!!,looks like the mlc got left behind in the convection off swfl..
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3659. scott39 1:54 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


From their latest advisory....2 hours ago...

"SATELLITE AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS LOST
SOME ORGANIZATION AND COULD BE DEGENERATING INTO A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE."

Will see! There are a few more factors before landfall, so im sticking with a weak to moderate TS.
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3661. weatherguy03 1:55 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
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3662. tatoprweather 1:56 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting Bigguy675:
What is the expectation of the tropical wave to the east of the Leeward Islands as to its track and possible development?


It lost most of its convection last nigth but is popping up again.
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3663. tkeith 1:57 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting HappyBirthdayJFV:
Good morning, all! Hey gang, it's my birthday today, ^_^.
Happy Birthday...
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3664. 69Viking 1:57 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting thermoclined:
nope


And you're welcome to your opinion just as I or anyone else can express their own opinion. In the end we'll follow the dotted line and all know what exactly happened with this system!
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3665. extreme236 1:57 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting psuweathernewbie:
I agree extreme. TD5 has alot going for it if it can wait another 36-48 hours over water. What are your thoughts on that large circulation accompaning a tropical wave at 0-10W and 10-20N?


Could be a possible player in a few days. We'll have to see exactly where it emerges and how it looks afterwards.
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3666. psuweathernewbie 1:58 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
The mid level circulation does look to be off the West Coast of FL this morning with persistent convection present.
3667. quante 1:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting cheetaking:
Well, it appears that the ULL is now pulling the circulation apart again, with wind shear increased to 20 kts on the north side, just as the NHC predicted.

Lesson learned: this is why they are the experts and we are just a bunch of internet speculators.


BINGO
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3669. HurricaneKyle 1:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


From their latest advisory....2 hours ago...

"SATELLITE AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS LOST
SOME ORGANIZATION AND COULD BE DEGENERATING INTO A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE."



I will give TD5 some little credit, it looks more impressive than 2 hours ago.
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3670. tropicfreak 1:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


From their latest advisory....2 hours ago...

"SATELLITE AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS LOST
SOME ORGANIZATION AND COULD BE DEGENERATING INTO A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE."



But conditions are going to be favorable today, the ULL low has moved out of the way, low shear, hot ssts, and dry air is not present.
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3672. sarahjola 2:00 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting sarahjola:
i still think the coc or llc looks to be at about 87w 27.5n. jmo. i am a armature at best:)maybe the center will jump around today as it did yesterday:)
i don't see where some are saying the llc is by w. florida. can someone give lat/lon? thanks in advance:)
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3673. GetReal 2:00 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    


There is no spiral banding present, and NO CURVATURE of the thunderstorms towards the SW, which would indicate a closed circulation... Very well may no longer be a TD... It has the appearance of an open wave, IMO...
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3675. hurricanejunky 2:01 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting StormChaser81:


Might not be at 11am with how disorganized it is on satellite and radar.

But convection has been on the increase lately.


Mornin SC! Nice posts yesterday...
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3676. sailfish01 2:02 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Neo, nice summary - I agree! You mean 10th August right?

Regarding TD5 I'll quote Dr M: A subtropical storm typically has a large, cloud free center of circulation, with very heavy thunderstorm activity in a band removed at least 100 miles from the center.

Describes TD5 to a T
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3677. DaytonaBeachWatcher 2:03 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    

3660. HappyBirthdayJFV
This comment has been removed for violating the Community Standards.



LOL

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3678. Jax82 2:03 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
If your prediction for the hurricane season comes out to be 100% true what do you win? Absolutely nothing. Maybe a virtual pat on the back. At the end of the season it doesnt matter how many we had, its how many we had that affected human lives and how good we were at forecasting the storms that formed.
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3679. Goldenblack 2:04 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Now you have to watch for the eastern sheer on the system

Quoting tropicfreak:


But conditions are going to be favorable today, the ULL low has moved out of the way, low shear, hot ssts, and dry air is not present.
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3680. efallon28 2:04 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Here is our local Doppler Radar out of Fort Myers. Put it on a loop and it shows all the convection is moving NNE, there is zero evidence of any type of circulation forming in this convection, at least for the time being.

Link
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3681. Bigguy675 2:04 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting tatoprweather:


It lost most of its convection last nigth but is popping up again.
Quoting tatoprweather:


It lost most of its convection last nigth but is popping up again.
Tatop....thanks for the reply. Not to sound grumpy but was wondering if anyone was going to comment. I have posted questions before but don't ever seem to get acknowledged.

To ask one more question, I would presume that the precipitation will pick back up again. But has Dr. M or Storm commented on this wave as either sliding through in the Caribbean into the Gulf. From the maps, it looks like its still quite low. Just wondered if the spin will start making it travel more NW or WNW sooner or perhaps later/
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3682. MahFL 2:05 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
I was suprised they named 5 as a TD it looked subtropical to me.
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3683. Hardcoreweather2010 2:06 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Just crazy

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3685. psuweathernewbie 2:06 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting GetReal:


There is no spiral banding present, and NO CURVATURE of the thunderstorms towards the SW, south which would indicate a closed circulation... Very well may no longer be a TD...


This is no longer the area to look at for future development. The MLC west of Ft. Myers is sustaining convection with a low level spiral band on the southern side of the circulation with convection persisting in this area.
3686. RipplinH2O 2:07 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Howdy all. Beautiful sunny and not quite as hot morning here on the beach
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3689. Enigma713 2:07 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting TexasGulf:
I had posted my predictions for this season in early May. This was based on the (humor) belief that tropical storms live up or down to their names... so their pathology can be predicted by those names.

So far this season, it looks like the score for this method is going to be 2-2-0.

Colin: Colin will spin up at sea, then die out within a day or so. Nobody wants to put up plywood on their windows with spray paint saying "go away Colin". Besides, nobody wants to stand on a beach somewhere waiting for "colin". It wouldn't look good in newspaper headlines either. Colin will go away quickly, un-noticed.

Danielle: Danielle will be a strong tropical storm, bringing much needed rains north through Alabama and Western Florida. Danielle's are nice typically, so there will be no bluster or damage in her wake.


My prediction for the 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season based upon the names of the storms. 17 named storms, 10 hurricanes, 4 major hurricanes. I'm sticking with this prognosis.


You should post the entire list to your blog, so we can check up on it at the end of the season, and see how well you did. ;)
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3690. SLU 2:08 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Well at the risk of being called a downcaster, I don't believe TD #5 meets the criteria to classify it as a TD at present. The system looks very broad and ill defined. It looks more like a system that is trying to form rather than one that has already formed.

It's also quite surprising how these systems have really struggled to develop so for this year.

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3692. calder 2:08 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting tropicfreak:


But conditions are going to be favorable today, the ULL low has moved out of the way, low shear, hot ssts, and dry air is not present.


i beg to differ:

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3693. nrtiwlnvragn 2:08 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
TD5 not looking very good right now. Divergent locations and characterization from TAFB and SAB:

AL 05 201008111145 DVTS 2680N 8510W TAFB 1520 ///// CSC DT = 1.5 BASED ON 0.2 BANDING. NLINEMET= 1.0 PAT=
AL 05 201008111145 DVTS 2810N 8520W SAB TROF DT=0.0 BO CBND MET=0.0 PT=0.0 FTBO DT PA=60 NMI


GHCC is in rapid scan loop

NHC could downgrade or keep alive on the next advisory. My opinion is keep alive since they do not want to "windshield wiper" if convection were to return this afternoon. Something like blah blah blah open trof blah blah blah recon this afternoon to confirm blah blah blah......
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3694. StormChaser81 2:09 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
My High Tech Hurricane Tracking Equipment in my office.

1970 Hurricane Tracking Chart with two colors of pins included. You can see I mean business when I pulled out the yellow pin and placed it where TD-5 is located. The red one is for hurricanes and there better not be two storms because I only have one red.

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3696. thermoclined 2:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting efallon28:
Here is our local Doppler Radar out of Fort Myers. Put it on a loop and it shows all the convection is moving NNE, there is zero evidence of any type of circulation forming in this convection, at least for the time being.

Link
correct
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3697. Enigma713 2:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
3688.

Lets look at this here:
1. What I said earlier is true.
2. Birthdays are no exemption from anything. Everyone has one. If you want to avoid drama or stress, don't cause it.
3. Nothing personal, but half the drama on this blog is directly related to you, or something you've said. I for one am tired of all the drama, and don't follow the blog as much because of it.
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3698. tkeith 2:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
TD5 not looking very good right now. Divergent locations and characterization from TAFB and SAB:

AL 05 201008111145 DVTS 2680N 8510W TAFB 1520 ///// CSC DT = 1.5 BASED ON 0.2 BANDING. NLINEMET= 1.0 PAT=
AL 05 201008111145 DVTS 2810N 8520W SAB TROF DT=0.0 BO CBND MET=0.0 PT=0.0 FTBO DT PA=60 NMI


GHCC is in rapid scan loop

NHC could downgrade or keep alive on the next advisory. My opinion is keep alive since they do not want to "windshield wiper" if convection were to return this afternoon. Something like blah blah blah open trof blah blah blah recon this afternoon to confirm blah blah blah......
a very reasonable assessment...
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3699. CaneBob 2:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
My opinion is that the NHC will upgrade the percentage on the tropical wave now at 55W 12N to at least 20% and perhaps 30% of development in the next report. System looks like it is developing circulation and that it will maintain a West to West Northwest path for the next few days.
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3700. HurricaneKyle 2:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Quoting tkeith:
a very reasonable assessment...


Agreed.
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3701. sailfish01 2:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2010    
Hardcore - amazing map - what if it did loop back and reform?
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About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

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