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The Atlantic is quiet; Russian heat wave ends; huge 926 mb South Indian Ocean storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:09 PM GMT on August 19, 2010 +5
A tropical wave in the western Caribbean approaching Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula is generating disorganized thunderstorms. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 15 knots over the region, and water vapor satellite images show that there is some dry air to the west that will interfere with any development that might occur. None of the reliable computer models develop this wave, and NHC is giving it a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the disturbed region of weather of the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands.

The GFS, NOGAPS, and ECMWF models continue to predict that a tropical storm will form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands sometime in the period 3 - 6 days from now. There is an area of disturbed weather south of the Cape Verdes Islands, but there is no obvious organization to the cloud pattern. Wind shear is a hefty 20 - 30 knots in the region, and the disturbance is a 1 - 2 day journey away from reaching a lower shear area where development can occur. Preliminary indications are that if a storm did develop in this region, it would track west-northwest and pass well to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles Islands 7 - 8 days from now. However, 7-day forecasts of a storm that hasn't even formed yet are not to be trusted.


Figure 2. The cold front that brought an end to the Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010 lies east of Moscow in the NASA MODIS photo taken at 8:35 UTC August 19, 2010. Smoke from wildfires is visible over a wide swath of Russia east of the front. Image credit: NASA.

The Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010 ends
A powerful cold front swept through Russia yesterday and today, finally bringing an end to the Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010. Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 25°C (77°F) today, which is still 4°C (7°F) above average, but the high temperature since late June. Moscow has seen 62 consecutive days with a high temperature above average, but the latest forecast for Moscow predicts that remarkable string will come to an end Friday, when the high will reach just 17°C (62°F).

Massive 926 mb extratropical storm generating huge waves off Antarctica
One of the most intense extratropical storms in recent years is churning up the waters near the coast of Antarctica in the South Indian Ocean. The powerful storm peaked in intensity yesterday afternoon with a central pressure of 926 mb--the type of pressure typically found in a Category 4 hurricane. Storms this intense form on average once per year, or perhaps less often, according to an email I received from Jeff Callaghan of the Australia Bureau of Meteorology. Since extratropical storms do not form eyewalls, the winds at the surface from this monster storm probably reached "only" 100 - 120 mph (equivalent to a Category 2 or 3 hurricane.) The storm is forecast to generate huge waves with a significant wave height of 13 meters (44 feet) today, according to the NOAA Wavewatch III model (Figure 3.) I have flown into an extratropical storm this intense--in 1989, I participated in a field project based in Maine that intercepted a remarkable extratropical storm that "bombed" into a 928 mb low south of the Canadian Maritime provinces. You can read my story of that somewhat harrowing flight here.


Figure 3. Satellite image taken at 8:10 UTC August 19, 2010, showing the intense extratropical cyclone that has weakened to 940 mb in the South Indian Ocean near the coast of Antarctica. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 4. Surface pressure analysis from 18 UTC August 18, 2010, showing a 926 mb low in the South Indian Ocean, just north of Antarctica. Image credit: Jeff Callaghan, Australia Bureau of Meteorology.


Figure 5. Predicted wave height from the NOAA Wavewatch III model for 2pm EDT (18 UTC) today, August 19, 2010. Peak wave heights of 13 meters (44 feet) are projected over ocean areas between Antarctica and Australia. Long-period waves (19 seconds between crests) up to 7 meters (22 feet) high are predicted to affect the southwest coast of Australia by Sunday. The waves are predicted to propagate eastwards to New Zealand 8 - 9 days from now, and be a respectable 4 - 5 meters high then.

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351. MiamiHurricanes09 5:18 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
NHC should be mentioning our future hurricane here shortly...within minutes.
I would like to see this circled since the models have gone into a good consensus of developing PGI31L.
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352. angiest 5:19 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


Actually it has had a few runs where it hit the SE US coastline

but yea most of the runs have shown a recurve; either way we have to see how the system develops and where it develops before we can determine which solution is right


Those coastal impacts have been followed by the remains recurving, at least in what I recall seeing.
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353. HurricaneKyle 5:19 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I would like to see this circled since the models have gone into a good consensus of developing PGI31L.


i would like to see a invest tagged so we can know what the track and intensity models think.
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355. Neapolitan 5:20 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Afternoon, everybody. Look at how clear it is over the Bahamas this afternoon.... typical August wx that we haven't been experiencing so much this particular August...



Does this imply a return to more seasonable weather i.e. increased TC activity? Who knows....


Not sure what it implies...thought it could imply that the cloudless sky and still-high sun are going to drive the 26.C thermocline deeper and further raise the TCHP...helping grow bigger storms if/when they arrive, and/or prolonging the season.
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356. MiamiHurricanes09 5:20 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneKyle:


i would like to see a invest tagged so we can know what the track and intensity models think.
Exactly!
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357. WeatherNerdPR 5:20 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I would like to see this circled since the models have gone into a good consensus of developing PGI31L.

The impressive Vort Max and Broad low you mentioned should force them into mentioning it.
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358. angiest 5:20 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


Yes. I have some stuff, which I plan to release "next week".


When the tropics start revving up "next week?"
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359. homelesswanderer 5:21 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting KanKunKid:


I would love to tell you, but that would be an opinion and some people don't like that here, or humor or sarcasm, basically, they would like Ferris Beulers teacher to be running things.

Oh, I dunno ask Reed, he is shy and seldom comes out and says anything, but if you ask nice, he might tell you.


Third movie ref. in a row. But I think you earned a HARUMPH! for that one. ;)
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360. LoneStarWeather 5:22 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


Yes. I have some stuff, which I plan to release "next week".

Great, I'll run some models so we know what to expect...
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361. blsealevel 5:22 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


They can be worth something if they show consistency


key words (can be) and (consistency).
intresting subject, Weather forcasting came along way over the years and the forcasters still dont completely understand all of the dynamics of when these storms or going to pop up but they are allways trying to look out
for our wellbeing by informing us of impending dangers from tropical weather isnt that what this is really about anyway?
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362. robj144 5:23 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Long time lurker, first time poster here. Can someone tell me if model solutions on a system that has not yet formed are worth anything?


This is your first post? I recall seeing your avatar (rather unique one) in some other blogs. Maybe someone else has the same avatar...
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363. MiamiHurricanes09 5:23 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Look at the amplification of the trough shown on the 12z GFS, I mean how often do you see that in August, especially in a negative phase of the NAO? Those type of troughs you see in February...not August. Looks like the GFS still overdoes the amplification of troughs.


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365. BahaHurican 5:24 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting NEwxguy:
Yesterday the cry was west,west,today its fish,fish fish. Can we wait until we have something the models can grab a hold of? Tomorrow its going to the gulf,gulf.
Umm, doubt it if u mean this particular system. Everything we've seen so far has shown a recurve before or over FL. IIRC, 0 runs take it low enough to get into the GOM.

This is a pretty interesting "phantom" though. What's catching my eye is that whatever forms is likely to get to 50W without any recurve; that part seems consistent. This means that regardless of actual run finale, the potential for a landfall remains quite high. The other thing is forecasts stay uniform on potential for high intensity. Wherever it ends up, it looks like we're going to have a "pretty one"....
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366. robj144 5:24 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Nevermind my last post.
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367. Enigma713 5:25 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Rather impressive vort max embedded in PGI31L's axis:



ASCAT also found a broad area of low pressure:


looks almost closed, but not quite. still a convergence zone on the north side of the axis.
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369. homelesswanderer 5:26 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting LoneStarWeather:

Great, I'll run some models so we know what to expect...


SmileyCentral.com
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371. IKE 5:27 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
12Z CMC... Trough/ULL off of the east coast.
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372. Neapolitan 5:28 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting KanKunKid:


I would love to tell you, but that would be an opinion and some people don't like that here, or humor or sarcasm, basically, they would like Ferris Beulers teacher to be running things.

Oh, I dunno ask Reed, he is shy and seldom comes out and says anything, but if you ask nice, he might tell you.


I don't mind humor; in fact, I love it. And I can't say I particularly care to read slab-like comments posted by folks who are clearly lacking a discernible personality. However, it's difficult sometimes to separate the wheat from the chaff here, as there's so much of the latter and not enough of the former. Ask anyonewho's tried to write comedy for a living; it's actually difficult to do at a sustained rate...as evidenced by many of the posts here. Of course, humor is subjective, as what I find funny you may not, and vice versa. And that's fine. But there are many posts on here that are not funny to anyone but the person who posted--and if you don't agree with that, well, then, your definition of chaff and mine differ a bit, don't you think? ;-)
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374. angiest 5:29 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Umm, doubt it if u mean this particular system. Everything we've seen so far has shown a recurve before or over FL. IIRC, 0 runs take it low enough to get into the GOM.

This is a pretty interesting "phantom" though. What's catching my eye is that whatever forms is likely to get to 50W without any recurve; that part seems consistent. This means that regardless of actual run finale, the potential for a landfall remains quite high. The other thing is forecasts stay uniform on potential for high intensity. Wherever it ends up, it looks like we're going to have a "pretty one"....


Exactly!
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375. StormPro 5:30 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting spartankicker:


Dr. Jeff said "However, 7-day forecasts of a storm that hasn't even formed yet are not to be trusted."

If that's the case, why take a model run as if it's fact that is still 10-15 days out?

I'm a meterological consultant for a major insurance company. I certainly don't know everything about the tropics, but I know it's foolish to look at a 15-day model like that and come to a conclusion that it will be quiet. Climatology and looking at data (aka FACTS) still trumps reading long range models. That's why I love reading StormW's reports everyday to see if my opinions stack up to his.


+1
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376. Enigma713 5:31 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting KanKunKid:


It's funny you should mention that, when I have the overhead fan on, it creates an upper level low and I just can't develop anything new and the stuff I was working on, just fizzles.

are you sure it creates a ULL? I would think that it creates a more stacked low-pressure system.
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378. RipplinH2O 5:31 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
You couldn't make this stuff it if you tried...and it's happening here, now...LOL!!!
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379. TexasHurricane 5:31 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting homelesswanderer:


SmileyCentral.com


Hi Homeless....
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380. Hurricanes101 5:32 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting RipplinH2O:
You couldn't make this stuff it if you tried...and it's happening here, now...LOL!!!


and you were there

or were you? *raises eyebrow*
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381. sflawavedude 5:32 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Everywhere there are happy content people there are critics who come out of the woodwork.
I'm buying the out to sea senario (if the system develops).
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382. HurricaneKyle 5:32 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
12Z CMC... Trough/ULL off of the east coast.


Should reflect it out to sea. Could be a very similar path to Hurricane Bill of last year.
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383. homelesswanderer 5:32 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting TexasHurricane:


Hi Homeless....


Hey Tex. :)
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384. will45 5:32 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
i just wish they would throw the quote button in the garbage can
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385. IKE 5:33 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
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386. MTWX 5:33 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Then it's GW arguments. That's almost as bad as this. Maybe worse sometimes.

Yeah, I dont care for those much either... I do like the info regarding the Heat wave in Moscow and the extra tropical storm (which are the theme of todays blog) yet noone is talking about them just because it is hurricane season.
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387. angiest 5:33 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting Enigma713:

are you sure it creates a ULL? I would think that it creates a more stacked low-pressure system.


It may create a cold core funnel.
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388. miamiheat 5:33 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
..finally we will rest a little bit...


312. reedzone 5:04 PM GMT on August 19, 2010
Out till tonight, not staying home on my day off lol... Have fun, be good and I do expect either 95L or a yellow circle for the TWO when I get back. IKE, save me some crow will ya, just in case I am wrong?


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389. pottery 5:33 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting angiest:


When the tropics start revving up "next week?"

I am going to get organized, 'next week'.
Funny how 'next week' is always a week away....
heheheh
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390. MiamiHurricanes09 5:34 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
12Z NOGAPS run...
LOL, it just eats a tropical storm.
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391. BahaHurican 5:34 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:


Not even close to being the same. Recurve is a verb meaning to curve or bend something backward. Where TCs are concerned, recurvation occurs when a westbound storm is picked up and flung "back" to the northeast. OTOH, irregardless is an outdated, internally-redundant, and "humorous" portmanteau of irrespective and regardless that means the same thing as, well, regardless.

So there you have it: recurve is scientific; irregardless is just silly.
irregardless=regardless; recurvation=recurvature....

And yes, recurvature is a scientific term.... guess the guys who made it up studied a bit more math than we do these days.

Quoting DestinJeff:


Just the opposite, actually. Which is why I can mock the debate.
You don't mock "the debate"; you only mock the side you don't support.... be real man....

Seems to me there's a lot of pple who don't understand that if nobody talks about the models.... well, what is there to talk about? If u are ill-advised enough to panic on the basis of a model run on a storm that hasn't formed yet, well... u are ill-advised. I don't see the harm in responsible people discussing responsibly, which a lot of us certainly can handle. The others.... well, I wish them the best on their journey...
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392. hydrus 5:36 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
12Z CMC... Trough/ULL off of the east coast.
The GEM still has a low off of Tampa Bay next week. Link Are you trough-casting?...jk..
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393. Hurricanes101 5:36 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
irregardless=regardless; recurvation=recurvature....

And yes, recurvature is a scientific term.... guess the guys who made it up studied a bit more math than we do these days.

You don't mock "the debate"; you only mock the side you don't support.... be real man....

Seems to me there's a lot of pple who don't understand that if nobody talks about the models.... well, what is there to talk about? If u are ill-advised enough to panic on the basis of a model run on a storm that hasn't formed yet, well... u are ill-advised. I don't see the harm in responsible people discussing responsibly, which a lot of us certainly can handle. The others.... well, I wish them the best on their journey...


very well said +1
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394. Patrap 5:36 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
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395. blsealevel 5:38 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    


ex L5 still spinning. like the path it seems to be taking to!
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397. homelesswanderer 5:39 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
irregardless=regardless; recurvation=recurvature....

And yes, recurvature is a scientific term.... guess the guys who made it up studied a bit more math than we do these days.

You don't mock "the debate"; you only mock the side you don't support.... be real man....

Seems to me there's a lot of pple who don't understand that if nobody talks about the models.... well, what is there to talk about? If u are ill-advised enough to panic on the basis of a model run on a storm that hasn't formed yet, well... u are ill-advised. I don't see the harm in responsible people discussing responsibly, which a lot of us certainly can handle. The others.... well, I wish them the best on their journey...


HARUMPH! Sorry. kankunkid started it. Seriously, I agree. :)
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398. neonlazer 5:39 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
LOL, it just eats a tropical storm.


Wow..thats crazy! Note the TS is actually moving in a bad direction towards the Caribbean..lol
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399. pottery 5:40 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


and you were there

or were you? *raises eyebrow*

Trendy is 'now',
Nostalgia is coming,
And we will be there.

Pretty dismal prospect, if you ask me...
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400. all4hurricanes 5:40 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
339 An Orange Circle I haven't seen one of those in weeks haha I'm still not sure what to think of "future Danielle" I wish everyone would just sit and wait for it to form before we list all the scenarios
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401. Patrap 5:40 PM GMT on August 19, 2010    
Theres a cure for Model-itis.

Check the Local CONUS or take a walk outside.
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