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Tropical Depression Six arrives
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:14 PM GMT on August 22, 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Tropical Depression Six is here, but it will not be a threat to land for at least the next five days. Tropical Depression Six is a classic "Cape Verdes"-type storm common during the peak part of hurricane season. Cape Verdes-type storms are so named because they form from tropical waves that come off the coast of Africa and pass near the Cape Verdes Islands just west of Africa. Cape Verdes hurricanes are the largest and most dangerous types of hurricane in the Atlantic, since they spend a long time over water have and have of opportunity to reach full maturity. Tropical Depression Six has a ways to go before it becomes a hurricane, as the storm is embedded in a strong easterly flow of wind courtesy of the African Monsoon that is generating a moderately high 15 - 20 knots of wind shear. There is also a tropical disturbance to the northeast of TD 6 that is sucking away some moisture and is interfering with the storm's circulation. Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are a warm 28°C, and the storm is embedded in a moist environment, so wind shear is the primary inhibiting factor for development. The strong east winds imparting the shear are keeping any heavy thunderstorms from developing on the east side of the center of circulation, which is exposed to view in satellite imagery (Figure 1.)


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of Tropical Depression Six.

Forecast for Tropical Depression Six
A ridge of high pressure will force Tropical Depression Six to the west-northwest for the next five days, and the system should increase its forward speed from its current 10 mph to 15 mph by Monday night. A powerful trough of low pressure over the mid-Atlantic Ocean will begin to pull Tropical Depression Six more to the northwest late this week, and the storm should pass well to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles Islands. It remains to be seen, however, it this trough will be strong enough to fully recurve Tropical Depression Six out to sea. The GFS predicts that Tropical Depression Six may pass close to Bermuda about eight days from now, and it is also possible that Tropical Depression Six could eventually hit the U.S. East Coast 9 - 15 days from now. However, we have no skill in making these sort of ultra-long range forecasts, and the long-range fate of TD 6 is uncertain.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The ECMWF and NOGAPS models are predicting formation of a tropical depression off the coast of Africa 3 - 4 days from now.

Jeff Masters
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2901. coffeecrusader 11:32 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Storm W. I noticed the 06 GFS develops the wave behind Danielle and takes that out to sea as well. With it coming off Africa at a lower latitude and with the ridge forecasted to build back in, do you agree with this?
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2902. Chicklit 11:34 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DANIELLE ADVISORY NUMBER 7
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062010
500 AM AST MON AUG 23 2010

...DANIELLE STRENGTHENS SOME MORE...

SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.8N 37.1W
ABOUT 850 MI...1365 KM W OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 60 MPH... 95 KM/HR PRESENT MOVEMENT... WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 14 MPH... 22 KM/HR MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 997 MB...29.44 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
THERE ARE NO COASTAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN EFFECT.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM DANIELLE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 14.8 NORTH... LONGITUDE 37.1 WEST. DANIELLE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH... 22 KM/HR... AND THIS GENERAL MOTION WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH TUESDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 60 MPH...95 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.


ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST...AND DANIELLE IS LIKELY TO BECOME A HURRICANE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 997 MB...29.44 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
NONE.


NEXT ADVISORY
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NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...1100 AM AST.

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2903. gdnsetter 11:34 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
My guess is very few know anything about tropical meteorology (including me). That is why I would like to see an "Accept" button. It would be just the opposite of the ignore button. It would allow me to create a list of bloggers whose posts I want to read. Everyone else would not be seen.

As it is now, I need to scroll thru pages and pages of posts to read yours and the posts of a few others whom I feel know what they are talking about.

Back to lurking.


Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?
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2904. Eugeniopr 11:35 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Ike still not working but I found it myself. Thank You very much I just want to continue bullish about the storm not hitting Bermuda.Strange I think many bloggers want a lanfall anywhere, jejejejejej
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2905. Chicklit 11:37 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Yesterday the NHC also predicted a westerly path. This is not unexpected.
Last night at 11 p.m. Danielle was traveling at 310 degrees, this morning it's 300 degrees (WNW).
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2906. scott39 11:37 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Looks like more W than N to me.
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2907. scott39 11:38 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Yesterday the NHC also predicted a westerly path. This is not unexpected.
Last night at 11 p.m. Danielle was traveling at 310 degrees, this morning it's 300 degrees (WNW).
It looks unexpected on thier tropical points?
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2908. DVG 11:39 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?


Storm, love what you do. I know zip. I never stir re tropical systems. GW stuff has a political blend to it, and I am open, but question there.

I do investments, and was blogging there long before I came across WU. Those who like to cause trouble aren't going to answer honestly.
Here, it's all weather, and the bloggers may come or go. With investments, I come and go, depending on what I own. The names may change on the group of bloggers, but because I change forums depending on the investment, I have attained a certain laissez faire attitude re pain in the butts.

I apply that here as well.
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2909. nrtiwlnvragn 11:39 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Bouy at 15N 38W as of 7AM EDT. Shift in wind direction would suggest the center passed south of the bouy between 5-7AM EDT.


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2910. Chicklit 11:40 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
We've seen a lot of systems die or disappear in dry air but not this one.

CATWVLoop

Low Shear with a nice little anticyclone over it.

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2911. weatherwart 11:40 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Looks like a heart:


Good morning, Storm. Morning, everyone. It does look like a heart. lol Nice looking storm. Best looking storm this season so far. She certainly wound up nicely since yesterday.

Hey Storm, did you lose power with those big banging storms we got yesterday?
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2912. GeoffreyWPB 11:41 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
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2913. wayfaringstranger 11:41 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Good morning everyone! I hope all had a great weekend.

Danielle looks like she is really getting stronger - even ahead of what was forecasted.

Could be a major hitting or brushing close to Bermuda.

Chance of seeing another invest later today off the African coast?
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2914. homelesswanderer 11:42 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?


I know a little about tropical weather. I had a good teacher. :) But for the most part my posts are usually followed by a question mark. Lol.
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2915. WxLogic 11:42 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Good Morning...

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2916. Chicklit 11:43 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    


It's off to the races for me.
Have a great day everyone.
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2917. blsealevel 11:44 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Looks like more W than N to me.


your seeing it right "W - WNW"
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2918. IKE 11:44 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT MON AUG 23 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM DANIELLE...LOCATED ABOUT 850 MILES WEST OF THE SOUTHERNMOST
CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.

AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED NEAR THE WEST COAST OF AFRICA
IS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES
WESTWARD NEAR 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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2919. MoltenIce 11:44 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
10% - blob near Cape Verde
1. AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED NEAR THE WEST COAST OF AFRICA
IS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES
WESTWARD NEAR 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

wow Ike beat me to it...
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2920. stormwatcherCI 11:45 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
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2921. HouGalv08 11:46 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?
Oh yes you should ask. Quoting you from last before we both turned in for the night--You said you pay more attention to climatology, satellite pics, steering maps before buying into what the models are saying, and that do so has worked well for you for the past 3 to 4 years. I usually lurk here also because my knowledge is limited, but I've already figured out who the bsr's are and those that like to stir the pot, as opposed to providing any factual or concrete information. Please keep up the great job and all of us informed!
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2922. scott39 11:46 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting blsealevel:


your seeing it right "W - WNW"
yes
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2923. WxLogic 11:46 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Danielle is sure looking mighty healthy this AM... thx to DMAX for the extra boost.
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2924. wunderkidcayman 11:47 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
hey nrtiwlnvragn this would support my idea of the COC located at 14.5N 38.5W
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2925. sporteguy03 11:47 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?


Storm, there are people like yourself on here that take the time out of your day to answer questions, give forecasts and help share the power of knowledge to many people. I think that is a good thing right or wrong I appreciate the time and commitment people like you give to this blog.
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2926. Chicklit 11:48 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    


Interesting, CI... Dr. Masters will probably post new blog by about 9.
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2927. Cotillion 11:48 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
As I mentioned ACE with Danielle and Bonnie and as a few people have asked about how to calculate ACE in the past, here's the quick (and lazy) version:

The formula is easy enough to find, but here's the already calculated version. ACE is calculated with 4 6-hourly advisories a day. Simply put, 5am/pm and 11am/pm.

Systems below 35kts/40mph do not count. Subtropical systems do not count. Special advisories or updates beyond these 6 hourly advisories do not count.

Per knots:

35kts/40mph – 0.1225
40kts/45mph – 0.1600
45kts – 0.2025
50kts – 0.2500
55kts – 0.3025
60kts – 0.3600
65kts/75mph – 0.4225
70kts – 0.4900
75kts – 0.5625
80kts – 0.6400
85kts – 0.7225
90kts – 0.8100
95kts – 0.9025
100kts/115mph – 1.000
105kts – 1.1025
110kts – 1.2100
115kts – 1.3225
120kts – 1.4400
125kts – 1.5625
130kts – 1.6900
135kts – 1.8225
140kts/160mph – 1.9600
145kts – 2.1025
150kts – 2.2500
155kts – 2.4025
160kts – 2.5600
165kts/190mph – 2.7225

So, per kts given on each 6 hourly advisory use that decimalised number. Then, for a storm over its lifetime, simply add together each 6 hourly number. Et voila!
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2928. wayfaringstranger 11:48 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?
Well my freind, I learn all I can from reading your's and Levi's post. I try to avoid blanket statements and I try to avoid stirring the pot although I do like to have fun with my friends - but never in a mean spirit.
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2929. scott39 11:50 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
I dont have a whole lot of confidence in this first trough pulling on Danielle that much. Of course this is what im reading. Im not a forecaster. Hopefully they are right on the second Trough. We will see.
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2930. stormwatcherCI 11:51 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:


Interesting, CI... Dr. Masters will probably post new blog by about 9.
The one at 10% is looking pretty good right now but don't know how it will hold up throughout the day.
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2931. homelesswanderer 11:52 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting MoltenIce:
10% - blob near Cape Verde
1. AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED NEAR THE WEST COAST OF AFRICA
IS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES
WESTWARD NEAR 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

wow Ike beat me to it...


Lol. He's fast. I'm always late with everything. :)
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2932. Vero1 11:54 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
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2933. wayfaringstranger 11:55 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Storm it looks like we could safely say that if weather was like Nascar, Danielle is paving the way knocking out the drier air with a train of waves drafting behin and ready to leave the African coast.

Lots of drier air now postioned into northern Africa.

Where is the MJB positioned? I can only imagine what should be a strong ridge of highs across the Atlantic when these waves leave the coast but I guess we shall see...
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2934. Vero1 11:55 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 AM EDT MON AUG 23 2010

...SPECIAL FEATURES...

AS OF 0900 UTC...TROPICAL STORM DANIELLE IS CENTERED NEAR 14.8N
37.1W...OR ABOUT 770 NM W OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS
MOVING NW AT 12 KT. ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 997
MB. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WIND SPEED IS 50 KT WITH GUSTS TO 60 KT.
FURTHER STRENGTHENING IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND IT
COULD BECOME A HURRICANE BETWEEN MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY
MORNING. CURRENTLY THE SYSTEM IS EMBEDDED WITHIN A LARGE AREA OF
ENHANCED DEEP LAYER MOISTURE EVIDENT IN TOTAL PRECIPITABLE WATER
IMAGERY. NUMEROUS STRONG CONVECTION IS MAINLY W OF THE CENTER
FROM 9N-17N BETWEEN 36W-42W. A TURN TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST
WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED TODAY. SEE LATEST
NHC FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCMAT1/WTNT21
KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS.
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2935. homelesswanderer 11:57 AM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
I dont have a whole lot of confidence in this first trough pulling on Danielle that much. Of course this is what im reading. Im not a forecaster. Hopefully they are right on the second Trough. We will see.


I agree. It looks like it is far south of the expected track to me. But I too hope it gets pulled out to sea before it harms anyone. This one looks like it's pretty healthy. Great for tracking. Awful for people.
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2936. flstormhog 12:00 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Looks like a heart:


Morning Storm,

Looks like the Left Ventricle is engorged. ;)
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2937. scott39 12:01 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
StormW, How far West will Danielle go if the first trough doesnt have an influence?
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2939. hulazigzag 12:02 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Good Morning everyone. While i am by far no expert. It seems to me that the NHC may be off on the center and direction of this storm. The center looks to be West of where the NHC says and the motion looks to be almost due west. Is anyone else seeing this?
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2940. wunderkidcayman 12:03 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
so what Vero1 yes 900 utc but they are using 5 am data no diffrence
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2941. kmanislander 12:03 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Good morning folks

Danielle is looking very good this morning and has built an impressive CDO.

I have been running the shorwave loop at various speeds and magnifications and from what I see the center does not appear to be as far East as the recent coordinates. I haven't looked at a microwave pass but 14.5 N and 38.5 W, or to the left of the points , is what I am seeing. It is entirely possible that the true center has relocated slightly and tucked a little deeper within the convection.

That would not be unusual for a sheared system that has reorganized.

In any event it is still far out at sea and a long way from any land so more of a " watch and see what happens " day today.
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2943. canefreak 12:04 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?
Hey Storm - I too am a novice when it comes to tropical meteorology (my expertise is in research medicine) but have been lurking on WU for many years now and have learned who I can trust for expert and credible information. I rarely add my 2 cents since there is a wealth of knowledge out there. It's a little funny (and frustrating) when I see some of these "hornet nest kickers" come up with these crazy forecasts and theories, but I just scroll right on through to the bloggers that I know have done their research.
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2945. tkeith 12:05 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting sporteguy03:


Storm, there are people like yourself on here that take the time out of your day to answer questions, give forecasts and help share the power of knowledge to many people. I think that is a good thing right or wrong I appreciate the time and commitment people like you give to this blog.
I agree. And the same holds true for you too 03, and the others who take the time to help those of us with limited knowledge of the science invloved...

Having said that I dont mind being a litlte entertained at the same time.

As for the pot stirrers...unavoidable consequences of an open forum.

my 2 cents FWIW.



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2946. homelesswanderer 12:06 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Should be a tad south of NHC track, but within cone. Hard to find center for me. I know the convection confuses me.


The shortwave is easiest for me to see. Link
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2947. smuldy 12:07 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:
Good morning folks

Danielle is looking very good this morning and has built an impressive CDO.

I have been running the shorwave loop at various speeds and magnifications and from what I see the center does not appear to be as far East as the recent coordinates. I haven't looked at a microwave pass but 14.5 N and 38.5 W, or to the left of the points , is what I am seeing. It is entirely possible that the true center has relocated slightly and tucked a little deeper within the convection.

That would not be unusual for a sheared system that has reorganized.

In any event it is still far out at sea and a long way from any land so more of a " watch and see what happens " day today.
and right on cue everyone comes on lol; ok, good to see an advanced forecaster confirm what many on here were saying through the night about the center relocation
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2948. MahFL 12:07 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
The NHC always seems to far north or east, but invariably they end up correct. Both storms will likely miss Bermuda to the east.
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2949. barotropic 12:07 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
"I know I shouldn't, as I know everyone is entitled to their opinion on Doc's blog, but I have to ask...how many of you that come on here and just make blanket statements and like stirring the pot, REALLY know anything about tropical meteorology?"

Very good point. Thats why this year I have mostly lurked. While this board has some knowledgeable folks on it, most are wishcasters to the hilt. That is in the often times face of fact, they have a sign on their foreheads that says "Please come hit me, I want a hurricane so bad", we CAN make this happen attitude. I mean some of you on this board I know are laughing right now because what I am saying is so so true! Case in point, a model consensus on a hurricane pointing directly at south Florida. Many "knowledgable folks on this board take issue when someone suggests that the storm will miss south florida and as a matter of fact, actually get pissed off. Yet, the same scenario with a solid model consensus of a storm recurving, they take issue with those that may suggest that florida or the US is pretty much out of the woods. So even those with knowledge often times on this site are highly biased. As a matter of fact, I read this board for entertainment. If I want an opinion I can read the numerous discussions issued by the NWS and the TPC. Those discussions are arrived at after some of the sharpest minds in tropical meteorology have reviewed the facts, the models and than added the human factor and opinion. What more do you need?
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2950. PensacolaDoug 12:10 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting gdnsetter:
My guess is very few know anything about tropical meteorology (including me). That is why I would like to see an "Accept" button. It would be just the opposite of the ignore button. It would allow me to create a list of bloggers whose posts I want to read. Everyone else would not be seen.

As it is now, I need to scroll thru pages and pages of posts to read yours and the posts of a few others whom I feel know what they are talking about.

Back to lurking.





Now THATS a good idea!!

+100
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2951. weatherwart 12:11 PM GMT on August 23, 2010    
Quoting flstormhog:


Morning Storm,

Looks like the Left Ventricle is engorged. ;)


Congestive storm failure? ;)
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