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Hermine drenching Texas; Gaston's remains less organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:21 PM GMT on September 07, 2010 +5
Tropical Storm Hermine hit the Mexican coast 40 miles south of the Texas border at 9:30 pm EDT last night, with 60 mph sustained winds. Top winds observed in Texas from the storm were 50 mph with gusts to 59 mph at Port Isabel near the Mexican border, and winds at Brownsville hit 45 mph, gusting to 69 mph. Harlingen had the highest gust observed from Hermine, 72 mph, and local storm reports indicate that half of the city lost power and a roof caved in on an apartment complex, with no injuries. Heavy rains have fallen along a 30-mile wide stretch of the Mexican and Texas coast, with 1.41" reported thus far in Harlingen, 3.71" at Brownsville, and 2.00" at Corpus Christi. Radar estimated rainfall amounts (Figure 3) exceed four inches along most of the Lower Texas coast, with maximum amounts near eleven inches twenty miles north of Brownsville.


Figure 1. Radar image of Hermine at landfall.


Figure 2. MODIS satellite image of Hermine at 12:45pm EDT Monday September 6, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Hermine became a tropical depression at 11pm Sunday night, and intensified into a 65 mph tropical storm in just 21 hours, an extremely fast intensification rate. It turns out that the southwestern Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche, where Hermine formed, is prone to these sort of rapidly intensifying tropical storms. This region produced two similar rapidly intensifying storms in 2007, Humberto and Lorenzo. Since 6-hourly position records of Atlantic hurricanes began in 1970, Hurricane Humberto holds the record for fastest intensification from first advisory issued to hurricane strength--18 hours. (Actually, Humberto did the feat in 14 1/4 hours, but this was rounded off to 18 hours in the final data base, which stores points every six hours). The curvature and topography of the land surrounding the Bay of Campeche help induce a counter-clockwise spin to the air over the region, which helps get tropical storms spinning up unusually quickly. Helping the spin-up process yesterday for Hermine were the very warm 30°C waters, low 5 - 10 knots of wind shear, and moist atmosphere.


Figure 3. Morning radar-estimated rainfall for Hermine.

Forecast for Hermine
Heavy rain and isolated tornadoes will continue across southern and central Texas today and tomorrow. Hermine is expected to accelerate northward today, limiting the potential for damaging floods along its future path. The storm's rains will help alleviate moderate to severe drought conditions affecting Central Texas.

Gaston's remains less organized
Dry air has significantly disrupted the remains of Tropical Storm Gaston, which are now over the northern Lesser Antilles Islands and Puerto Rico. Morning visible satellite imagery shows that Gaston's remains no longer have a well-defined surface circulation, though there is still some spin. Latest radar out of Martinique and Puerto Rico show a few heavy rain showers moving through the islands, but no organization to the showers. A large amount of dry air surrounds Gaston's remains on all sides, as seen on water vapor satellite loops. None of the computer models show Gaston redeveloping, and NHC has downgraded the odds of development to 10%. I think the odds should be higher than this, perhaps 30%. Gaston's remains will be disrupted some on Wednesday, when they will encounter the high terrain of Hispaniola.

Elsewhere in the tropics
There are two tropical waves off the coast of Africa that NHC is giving a 10% chances of developing into tropical depressions by Thursday. The models are fairly unanimous in predicting development of one or more tropical waves off the coast of Africa 3 - 7 days from now. The next storm will be called Igor.

Eastern Pacific Tropical Depression 11E kills 44 in Guatemala
In the Eastern Pacific, heavy rains from Tropical Depression 11E killed at least 44 people in Guatemala over the weekend. At least 56 are injured, and 16 missing. The heavy rains triggered fifteen landslides that hit portions of the Inter-American Highway, burying a number of vehicles and a bus. Guatemala is still recovering from the impacts of Tropical Storm Agatha, which killed 287 people in the country and did over $1 billion in damage.


Figure 4. Satellite image from Friday, September 3, 2010, showing Tropical Depression 11E over Guatemala. Image credit: NASA.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question to broadcast@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line.

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Next post
I'll have an update Wednesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2102. wunderkidcayman 2:39 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
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2103. moonlightcowboy 2:39 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
exGaston seems to be slowing down on the last few Sat loops.


I've had it in my head that speed has been in an issue. He has moved in tandem with that moisture-robbing feature west/north - the NHC has attributed that southerly flow to those features if I read that the 8:05 right. If he slows, perhaps he can't get that convection to stay at home overhead and get the tropical engine running.
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2104. centex 2:39 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
Famous line of fishing gear by the name.
One of the fastest growing area's because N Austin suburb. Trivia, only about 20 miles from weather history, record 24 hour rainfall.
Also
1. Central Texas has been identified as the most flash-flood prone area in the United States by the National Weather Service.
2. Texas holds 6 of 12 world record rainfall rates in 24 hours or less - source United States Geological Survey (USGS).
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2105. xcool 2:39 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
btwntx08 i didlol
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2107. markot 2:40 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
storm, just looking at latest satt. photos, looks like he could be going between dom. repub. and p.r. what would that do to the forcast. if he heads toward the bahamas....
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2108. Seastep 2:41 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Based on climatology, I always double the number prior to Sep 10 and add one or two.

18 is a good bet, imo.
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2109. 1900hurricane 2:41 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting centex:
One of the fastest growing area's because N Austin suburb. Trivia, only about 20 miles from weather history, record 24 hour rainfall.
Also
1. Central Texas has been identified as the most flash-flood prone area in the United States by the National Weather Service.
2. Texas holds 6 of 12 world record rainfall rates in 24 hours or less - source United States Geological Survey (USGS).

Thrall, September 9-10, 1921. That storm has some US records on it. Near world records too!
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2110. JLPR2 2:41 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Right now I'm doubting Gaston's potential, his 850mb vort has weakened considerably and there is no mid levels vort anywhere, plus he is moving over warmer water and nothing, even with less shear and a slightly more humid environment, I'm thinking Gaston is one of those disturbances that have everything going for them but dont do anything.

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2111. Bonz 2:41 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
I think it was struggling at one point too. But I followed my "don't take my eyes off of it 'til it safely passes" routine so wasn't caught off-guard.

We were lucky up here, as it slid south at the end. It was due to come in right at the county line, at least that was what they were predicting.

Andrew was my very first hurricane.

Quoting StormW:


Yeah...I remember when he first starting ramping up though...the original thought was to miss the Bahamas, and parallel NW along there, and then turn...then all of a sudden, they had to scramble to issue watches and warnings. It was like...ooopppss!
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2113. moonlightcowboy 2:43 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:
...one of those disturbances that have everything going for them but dont do anything.




Knew a couple of girls like that. But you're right. Nearly everything perfect. Personally, I think it's still trying to choke on/out dry air.
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2114. Bonz 2:44 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Sure looks like it. He just couldn't get his act together, in spite of what looked like good conditions for formation.

Quoting JLPR2:
I'm thinking Gaston is one of those disturbances that have everything going for them but dont do anything.

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2115. kmanislander 2:44 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:
Right now I'm doubting Gaston's potential, his 850mb vort has weakened considerably and there is no mid levels vort anywhere, plus he is moving over warmer water and nothing, even with less shear and a slightly more humid environment, I'm thinking Gaston is one of those disturbances that have everything going for them but dont do anything.



I still think we should wait until he gets to the Western Caribbean before deliverying the eulogy. The area he is in now is not known for weak systems getting organized.
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2117. scott39 2:44 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting moonlightcowboy:


I've had in my head that speed has been in an issue. His kept in tandem with that moisture-robbing feature west/north - the NHC has attributed that southerly flow to those features if I read that the 8:05 right. If he slows, perhaps he can't get that convection to stay at home overhead and get the tropical engine running.
Thats what I was thinking. Also if he stays due W, the center will miss hispanola.
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2118. JLPR2 2:45 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    


91L Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)

Looks like a good agreement for the moment.
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2119. moonlightcowboy 2:45 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Have a good night everyone!


Have a good sleep StormW. Thanks.
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2120. kmanislander 2:47 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Good night Storm. Didn't get a chance to chat with you tonight as we were on different threads. Maybe tomorrow :-)
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2121. lennit 2:47 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
nite W
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2122. moonlightcowboy 2:47 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Thats what I was thinking. Also if he stays due W, the center will miss hispanola.


Yeah. I'm not seeing Hispaniola as a problem. And, that if he can slow down, we might see development closer to Jamaica, maybe just south.
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2123. JLPR2 2:48 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting moonlightcowboy:



Knew a couple of girls like that. But you're right. Nearly everything perfect. Personally, I think it's still trying to choke on/out dry air.


If he were to interact with another TW or disturbance I would expect development, but it's just him, all lonely and dry. xD

Quoting Bonz:
Sure looks like it. He just couldn't get his act together, in spite of what looked like good conditions for formation.



Yeah, maybe he is damaged beyond repair?

Quoting kmanislander:


I still think we should wait until he gets to the Western Caribbean before deliverying the eulogy. The area he is in now is not known for weak systems getting organized.


True, lets give him a few days and watch him, besides, there isn't any other named storm around. XD
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2124. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:49 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:
Switching gears for a bit, I was thinking that we are now at the end of the first week of September. The CV season has 3 weeks to go. It could actually be close to over, considering that anything coming off the West coast of Africa will not get to 80W for about two weeks.

That leaves us with Oct and Nov and the fronts.

8 named storms in the books. Not looking like a season much above normal right now unless we see a major uptick in activity.
i say no less than 10 no more than 14 max that makes it 6 left to go with the eight we have had or then again maybe only 2 more till the end i would say 4 for sure to be fair with as many as 6
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2125. kmanislander 2:49 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
I'm out as well. Now I have to wait to see what he looks like in the morning. UGGH !

Bye for now.
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2126. 1992Andrew 2:49 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:

rofl...confession: I wake up at 3:30 a.m. to see what's going on and I'm not even 'in the cone!'


I'd say you need intervention, but I'm not that far behind. The first thing I do when I wake up is check the tropics.
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2127. Skylink 2:49 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Up to 4.46 of rain here at my house in north central Austin, just amazing bands of rain still coming in.

Here's my weather site. Link
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2129. 1992Andrew 2:50 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Have a good night everyone!


Good night!
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2130. centex 2:50 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
It training right to my house in Round Rock and even the belated folks in Pflugerville.

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2131. moonlightcowboy 2:50 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Ok, I'm out for some brief chores before two busy travel days.

Thanks, K'man, and all! Y'all hold the fort down! Have a good sleep!


MLC <------------------out for some shuteye!
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2132. kmanislander 2:50 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i say no less than 10 no more than 14 max that makes it 6 left to go with the eight we have had or then again maybe only 2 more till the end i would say 4 for sure to be fair with as many as 6


14 is my number as well. We'll see. Out for now.
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2133. kimoskee 2:51 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Message to Gaston:
STAY AWAY FROM JAMAICA. You're not welcomed here. When I wake up tomorrow morning I expect to see you gone.
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2134. JLPR2 2:52 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Ahh! Everyone is going to sleep already? XD

Well...
Night then!
But I'll be lurking. :D
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2135. crashingwaves 2:52 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Whats is everyones take on 91L? Do you think it may be an EC storm? The computer models show it to be. But I know things could change between now & then.
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2136. scott39 2:53 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Yeah. I'm not seeing Hispaniola has a problem. And, that if he can slow down, we might see development closer to Jamaica, maybe just south.
Cayman residents are the ones who really need to watch this one. He may be nothing, but Ive seen nothing go to something real fast many times.
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2137. will40 2:55 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting crashingwaves:
Whats is everyones take on 91L? Do you think it may be an EC storm? The computer models show it to be. But I know things could change between now & then.


it will depend on the timing of trofs comming off the east coast
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2138. txsweetpea 2:56 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Wow we got an orange circle!
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2139. futuremet 2:57 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
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2140. JLPR2 2:57 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    


91L looks healthy
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2141. wthrmnwanabe 2:57 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
wish I could have finished up college.

NEVER too late...
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2142. PSLFLCaneVet 2:57 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Good night, Senior Chief
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2143. JLPR2 2:58 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting txsweetpea:
Wow we got an orange circle!


I wonder what happened that they decided to post an special one?

Maybe it been yellow was a whoops? XD
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2144. scott39 2:58 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
91L 40%
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2145. txsweetpea 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


I wonder what happened that they decided to post an special one?

Maybe it been yellow was a whoops? XD

Maybe so.
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2146. JLPR2 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting crashingwaves:
Whats is everyones take on 91L? Do you think it may be an EC storm? The computer models show it to be. But I know things could change between now & then.


I would say watch it, models change and besides, if this one develops it would be Igor, the scary name of 2010. XD
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2147. JRRP 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
91L 40%

yea
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2148. AllStar17 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
91L's tracks seem too far north to me.
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2149. MiamiHurricanes09 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 080247
TWOAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1050 PM EDT TUE SEP 7 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER HAS ISSUED THE LAST ADVISORY ON
TROPICAL DEPRESSION HERMINE...LOCATED INLAND OVER CENTRAL TEXAS
ABOUT 30 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF BROWNWOOD.

A VIGOROUS TROPICAL WAVE...ACCOMPANIED BY A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...
IS LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHEASTERN CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME MORE CONCENTRATED NEAR THE CENTER OF THE
LOW DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS...AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR
CONDUCIVE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS
AS THE DISTURBANCE MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS A
MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.


SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN DISORGANIZED IN ASSOCIATION WITH
THE REMNANTS OF GASTON LOCATED ABOUT 60 MILES SOUTH OF PONCE PUERTO
RICO. DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...OF THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO BE SLOW
TO OCCUR AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
AGAIN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED
ABOUT 450 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF THE NORTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE
ISLANDS REMAINS MINIMAL. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO
BE UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS
THE LOW MOVES WESTWARD NEAR 10 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART

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2150. xcool 3:00 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
td11 come soon
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2151. Thundercloud01221991 3:01 AM GMT on September 08, 2010    
Why would they issue a special statement just to raise it to 40%
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