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A rare triple threat: three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:47 PM GMT on September 16, 2010 +4
For the first time in twelve years, we have a rare triple threat in the Atlantic--three simultaneous hurricanes. Hurricane Karl joined Hurricanes Igor and Julia in the steadily expanding Hurricanes of 2010 club this morning, becoming the sixth hurricane of the season. The last time we had three simultaneous hurricanes in the Atlantic was in 1998. That year also had four simultaneous hurricanes--Georges, Ivan, Jeanne and Karl--for a brief time on September 25. There has been just one other case of four simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes, on August 22, 1893. According to Phil Klotzbach at Colorado State, three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes is a rare phenomena, having occurred only eight other times since 1851. The other years were 1893, 1926, 1950, 1961, 1967, 1980, 1995, and 1998.


Figure 1. Triple trouble: From left to right, Hurricanes Karl, Igor, and Julia roil the Atlantic. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Karl
Hurricane Karl continues to intensify. The latest Hurricane Hunter flight, flying at 12,000 feet, found flight level winds of 95 mph. This suggests surface winds of 85 mph, though the top surface winds seen by their SFMR instrument were about 80 mph. Mexican radar out of Alvarado shows the outer spirals bands of Karl are dumping heavy rains on the Mexican coast along the Bay of Campeche.


Figure 2. Afternoon radar image from the Alvarado, Mexico radar. The eye of Karl is visible in the upper right, and rain bands are affecting the coast to the east of the radar site. Image credit: Mexican Weather Service..

Forecast for Karl
Conditions for intensification are ideal in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche, with wind shear expected to be low, 5 - 10 knots, SSTs warm, 29°C - 30°C, and the atmosphere very moist. These conditions, combined with the topography of the surrounding coast which tends to enhance counter-clockwise flow, should allow Karl to intensify into Category 2 hurricane before making landfall between Tampico and Vercruz, Mexico Friday afternoon. Karl is a small storm, and is unlikely to bring any rain or wind to Texas.

Igor
The Air Force Hurricane Hunters made their first foray into Hurricane Igor this afternoon, and found a high-end Category 3 storm, with a central pressure of 940 mb and top winds at 10,000 feet of 150 mph. The southwest portion of the eyewall was open, so Igor has the potential to intensify once again if it can close off the gap. There are no major changes to the track or intensify forecast for Igor in the latest set of model runs. Igor is expected to remain a major hurricane for the next two days, and is headed northwest at 7 mph. This motion will carry the core of the hurricane close to NOAA buoy 41044 between 9 - 11 pm EDT tonight. Top winds at the buoy so far today have been 65 mph, gusting to 81 mph, with a significant wave height of 38 feet (the significant wave height is the average of the highest 1/3 of the waves.)

Elsewhere in the tropics
The ECMWF model develops a new tropical depression a few hundred miles off the coast of Africa 2 - 4 days from now. The GFS is suggesting the eastern Caribbean could see a tropical depression 6 - 7 days from now.

I'll have an update Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1951. Cotillion 10:10 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:


Yes, it is. It's the first major in recorded history to either become a major in, or traverse as a major, south of about 21 degrees north (roughly speaking, a line that extends westward from the northern tip of the Yucatan Peninsula). As I stated last night, 2007's Dean and 1955's Janet were majors before crossing the Yucatan into the BOC, but neither was able to regain major status once in the BOC. The farthest south landfalling major was 1951's Charlie, but that was much farther north.

So, yes, yet more history to be made. Unfortunately.


How far did you go back?
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1952. all4hurricanes 10:10 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    

look at this what if Karl dips south and hits the very bottom of his cone. Everyone under a tropical storm warning would then get a category 4, the NHC should be more wary of they're watches and warnings.
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1953. scott39 10:12 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Goodmorning, I see Karl is a compact power house. We need to pray for those folks down there. Are the models still showing support for a Carribean/GOM TC in about 10 days?
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1955. all4hurricanes 10:14 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting islander101010:
upwelling
In Igor or in the ocean?
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1956. Neapolitan 10:16 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:


How far did you go back?


Tropical records seem to begin in earnest in the third quarter of the 19th century.
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1957. Cotillion 10:17 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Yes,there is one other major to have been in the Bay of Campeche.
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1959. CaneHunter031472 10:17 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
All I can say is that my prayers go today to my mexican brothers and sisters. God bless you all. Protect your children if there is still time and you have the means get out of the way. Go somewhere else, material things can always be replaced, but life is something we cannot replace.
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1960. MTWX 10:18 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
1500 GMT looks to be the next flight time into Karl
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1961. dmaddox 10:19 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
thank you StormW
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1963. carlos1993 10:21 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
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1964. HurricaneSwirl 10:21 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting all4hurricanes:

look at this what if Karl dips south and hits the very bottom of his cone. Everyone under a tropical storm warning would then get a category 4, the NHC should be more wary of they're watches and warnings.


And if it does hit the bottom area of the cone Veracruz gets mashed by a CAT4 and Karl is off the naming lists for good.
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1965. Cotillion 10:21 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:


Tropical records seem to begin in earnest in the third quarter of the 19th century.


Alright.

Well, you narrowly missed one (and it really is almost so close that you can call it a technicality, to be honest. But still)

1909 Monterrey Hurricane.

It regained major hurricane status... at 20.9N; 84.1W.

So, technically, within the confines of your dimensions and within the Bay of Campeche, though just barely - and Karl is already stronger and much lower down.

I'll have to keep looking, but I suspect that would be the only other case.

Link

Link

Nearly a 100 years ago.
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1966. mississippiwx23 10:22 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
The HH is half way across the Gulf on its way to Karl at this time.
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1967. dmaddox 10:22 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
still dropping...
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1968. Neapolitan 10:22 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
An, er, interesting tidbit: Karl is expected to make landfall very close to the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Station, Mexico's only nuke plant.

Pray harder...
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1969. GeoffreyWPB 10:22 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
I wonder how close Karl's eye will come to the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Station, the only one in Mexico? I hope it is well built.
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1970. FLWeatherFreak91 10:22 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Karl reminds me of Charley 2004.
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1971. HurricaneSwirl 10:24 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Has a hurricane of Karl's intensity ever made landfall where it is about to make landfall now?
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1972. Neapolitan 10:24 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:


Alright.

Well, you narrowly missed one (and it really is almost so close that you can call it a technicality, to be honest. But still)

1909 Monterrey Hurricane.

It regained major hurricane status... at 20.9N; 84.1W.

So, technically, within the confines of your dimensions and within the Bay of Campeche, though just barely - and Karl is already stronger and much lower down.

I'll have to keep looking, but I suspect that would be the only other case.

Link

Link

Nearly a 100 years ago.


Well, that's why I used the word "roughly"; that storm was north of the northern tip of the YP when it became a major, and didn't make landfall in the Bay.
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1973. GeoffreyWPB 10:25 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Weird Nea...What are the odds we posted the same thing at the same time?
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1974. Neapolitan 10:26 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
Has a hurricane of Karl's intensity ever made landfall where it is about to make landfall now?


There are several posts on this below, and the answer is no. No major storms have made landfall in the BOC since the mid-to-late 1800s.
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1975. tkeith 10:26 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I wonder how close Karl's eye will come close to the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Station, the only one in Mexico? I hope it is well built.
The plant will be plenty strong enough but the transmission lines from it wont stand a chance. Karl likely will have a more devastating affect and on more people than Igor.

Bad news this Cane intensified so fast.
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1976. seflagamma 10:27 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
good morning everyone,

getting ready to leave for work and had to come chek on Karl... oh my goodness that storm did ramp up to become a major storm in short amount of time. everyone knew he could..now could be cat 4 at landing...

WOW, once we get a storm it becomes a major quickly.

catch you all later on morning break at work.
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1977. aislinnpaps 10:27 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Morning Storm and all. Wow, Karl has intensified way beyond expectations. The model for the GOM keeps changing, hitting here, not hitting here. I'm glad it's still far enough out not to have to worry about it yet. Hopefully nothing major develops.
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1978. dmaddox 10:28 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
in all honesty, if it hits about 50 miles north of veracruz, it looks pretty unpopulated IMO...
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1979. scott39 10:31 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Does anybody know how populated the city of Enriquez, Mexico is? It looks like Karl will go right over it.
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1980. Cotillion 10:34 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
You know, this might even be the only time such a storm has hit that area at this intensity in all recorded history... let alone any mildly to reasonably accurate history.
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1981. carlos1993 10:34 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Does anybody know how populated the city of Enriquez, Mexico is? It looks like Karl will go right over it.
around 400 K Link
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1982. barotropic 10:35 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting all4hurricanes:

look at this what if Karl dips south and hits the very bottom of his cone. Everyone under a tropical storm warning would then get a category 4, the NHC should be more wary of they're watches and warnings.


Hurricane force winds are in a very small area (25 miles out or less). The "less" part is likely in the southern half of the storm. What they have at this point seems Ok.
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1983. mcluvincane 10:35 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Does gfs still have a storm in the gulf on extended run? I've noticed the Cmc puts a storm in the gulf in a few days
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1984. scott39 10:37 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting carlos1993:
around 400 K Link
Thanks, Thats more than I expected.
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1985. dmaddox 10:37 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Does anybody know how populated the city of Enriquez, Mexico is? It looks like Karl will go right over it.

809,206
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1986. dmaddox 10:38 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Does anybody know how populated the city of Enriquez, Mexico is? It looks like Karl will go right over it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xalapa
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1987. poknsnok 10:40 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Karl looks a little like a certain 1992 storm I had the utmost pleaseure to experience
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1988. GeorgefromLosCabos 10:40 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Hello friend! Good morning.

Does anybody know if Karl stills a Hurrican cat3 or is now a cat4. I'm waiting for the noaa's bulletin but it seems that will take a few hrs more to see it.
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1989. dmdhdms 10:42 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Does anybody know how populated the city of Enriquez, Mexico is? It looks like Karl will go right over it.


This says 400k plus

Link
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1990. Titoxd 10:43 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I wonder how close Karl's eye will come to the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Station, the only one in Mexico? I hope it is well built.


You don't want to know. The line is OFCL, and (M) is the 12-hour forecast. EDIT: Google Earth's rule says 2.0 miles normal distance...

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1991. GeoffreyWPB 10:43 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
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1992. scott39 10:44 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Has anybody heard about how evacuations are going in the path of Karl? What are the structures like?
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1993. BigToe 10:46 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Good Morning
Microwave looks impressive

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/marti/2010_13L/webManager/displayGifsBy12hr_04.html
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1994. Katelynn 10:47 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    

Quoting scott39:
Has anybody heard about how evacuations are going in the path of Karl? What are the structures like?


from the Wiki page someone just posted, there is a panoramic view of Xalapa and the structures don't look all that great :(

warning - large file size:

panoramic view of Xalapa
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1995. Cotillion 10:47 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
The last hurricane to hit this area would be Lorenzo in 2007. Although, that was further up in Veracruz.

You'd probably have to look at Hurricane Stan in 2005, which killed 1,500 in Guatemala (sort of indirectly) from flooding. Guatemala's already pretty flooded out, so given the fact Karl's small, they may miss the rain.

(Wiki says it killed 35 and caused around 2 1/2 billion USD in damage in Mexico)
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1996. scott39 10:49 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Katelynn:



from the Wiki page someone just posted, there is a panoramic view of Xalapa and the structures don't look all that great :(

warning - large file size:

panoramic view of Xalapa
Tnanks
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1998. Titoxd 10:51 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Has anybody heard about how evacuations are going in the path of Karl? What are the structures like?


8 municipalities in Veracruz have mandatory coastal evacuations. And let's say that the state of Veracruz is not as urbanized as Tamaulipas and Monterrey, which were hit by Alex and still caused $1 billion+ USD damage.
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1999. poknsnok 10:53 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
there going to need roofs in mexico
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2000. bassis 10:54 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I wonder how close Karl's eye will come to the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Station, the only one in Mexico? I hope it is well built.


thats a scary thought. Karl looks impressive this morning
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2001. scott39 10:54 AM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Karl is going to be a "small" impact land wise, but a very tremendous impact for people that are in its direct path. I hope they are bunkered down and passes by quickly.
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