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A rare triple threat: three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:47 PM GMT on September 16, 2010 +4
For the first time in twelve years, we have a rare triple threat in the Atlantic--three simultaneous hurricanes. Hurricane Karl joined Hurricanes Igor and Julia in the steadily expanding Hurricanes of 2010 club this morning, becoming the sixth hurricane of the season. The last time we had three simultaneous hurricanes in the Atlantic was in 1998. That year also had four simultaneous hurricanes--Georges, Ivan, Jeanne and Karl--for a brief time on September 25. There has been just one other case of four simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes, on August 22, 1893. According to Phil Klotzbach at Colorado State, three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes is a rare phenomena, having occurred only eight other times since 1851. The other years were 1893, 1926, 1950, 1961, 1967, 1980, 1995, and 1998.


Figure 1. Triple trouble: From left to right, Hurricanes Karl, Igor, and Julia roil the Atlantic. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Karl
Hurricane Karl continues to intensify. The latest Hurricane Hunter flight, flying at 12,000 feet, found flight level winds of 95 mph. This suggests surface winds of 85 mph, though the top surface winds seen by their SFMR instrument were about 80 mph. Mexican radar out of Alvarado shows the outer spirals bands of Karl are dumping heavy rains on the Mexican coast along the Bay of Campeche.


Figure 2. Afternoon radar image from the Alvarado, Mexico radar. The eye of Karl is visible in the upper right, and rain bands are affecting the coast to the east of the radar site. Image credit: Mexican Weather Service..

Forecast for Karl
Conditions for intensification are ideal in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche, with wind shear expected to be low, 5 - 10 knots, SSTs warm, 29°C - 30°C, and the atmosphere very moist. These conditions, combined with the topography of the surrounding coast which tends to enhance counter-clockwise flow, should allow Karl to intensify into Category 2 hurricane before making landfall between Tampico and Vercruz, Mexico Friday afternoon. Karl is a small storm, and is unlikely to bring any rain or wind to Texas.

Igor
The Air Force Hurricane Hunters made their first foray into Hurricane Igor this afternoon, and found a high-end Category 3 storm, with a central pressure of 940 mb and top winds at 10,000 feet of 150 mph. The southwest portion of the eyewall was open, so Igor has the potential to intensify once again if it can close off the gap. There are no major changes to the track or intensify forecast for Igor in the latest set of model runs. Igor is expected to remain a major hurricane for the next two days, and is headed northwest at 7 mph. This motion will carry the core of the hurricane close to NOAA buoy 41044 between 9 - 11 pm EDT tonight. Top winds at the buoy so far today have been 65 mph, gusting to 81 mph, with a significant wave height of 38 feet (the significant wave height is the average of the highest 1/3 of the waves.)

Elsewhere in the tropics
The ECMWF model develops a new tropical depression a few hundred miles off the coast of Africa 2 - 4 days from now. The GFS is suggesting the eastern Caribbean could see a tropical depression 6 - 7 days from now.

I'll have an update Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2351. weatherguy03 2:11 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
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2352. aspectre 2:11 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
HurricaneKarl's heading had turned southward to (3.3degrees west of) WestSouthWest
from its previous heading of dueWest
H.Karl's average speed moving between its last 2 reported positions was ~7mph(~11.2km/h)

16Sep 12pmGMT - - 19.6n92.1w - - - 65mph - - 986mb - - NHC.Adv.
??? 12:30pmGMT - - 19.7n92.2w - - - 65mph - - 987mb - - #8
16Sep 03pmGMT - - 19.7n92.8w - - - 75mph - - 983mb - - #9
16Sep 06pmGMT - - 19.7n93.3w - - - 75mph - - 983mb - - #9A
16Sep 09pmGMT - - 19.6n93.7w - - - 80mph - - 977mb - - #10
17Sep 12amGMT - - 19.7n94.1w - - - 80mph - - 971mb - - #10A
17Sep 03amGMT - - 19.7n94.5w - - 100mph - - 968mb - - #11
17Sep 06amGMT - - 19.7n94.8w - - 105mph - - 967mb - - #11A
17Sep 09amGMT - - 19.7n95.3w - - 110mph - - 961mb - - #12
16Sep 12pmGMT - - 19.6n95.6w - - 120mph - - 956mb - - #12A

Copy &paste 19.7n92.1w, 19.7n92.8w, 19.7n93.3w, 19.6n93.7w, 19.7n94.1w-19.7n94.5w, 19.7n94.5w-19.7n94.8w, 19.7n94.8w-19.7n95.3w, 19.7n95.3w-19.6n95.6w, ver, cza, 19.6n95.6w-19.36n96.32w into the GreatCircleMapper for a look at the last 12*hours.

Using straightline projection upon the speed&heading averaged
over the 3hours spanning the last two reported positions:
~5hours from now to JoseCardel,Veracruz,Mexico

* The westernmost line-segment is the straightline projection.
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2353. Chicklit 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
I'm thinking Igor is going to go further EAST of Bermuda. They're still gonna get a lashing but maybe not a direct hit. What do you guys think?


Won't this help push IGOR further EAST?
WVLoop
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2354. kwgirl 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting HCW:
Looks like Bermuda is 100% safe from Igor cause the Storm Shield Jim Cantorie is en route :)
LOL. Here in Key West we know we are safe when Jim arrives.
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2355. mgreen91 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
I’m scared to think what is in store for the rest of this hurricane season. Things have ramped up fast…
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2356. CloudGatherer 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:


I'd be interesting in reading that.

Are you having trouble with linking it here, or?


The trouble is that the article is in a subscription-only journal. I've got access to it through an institution, but I can't link to it beyond the paywall.
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2357. SQUAWK 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting FLdewey:



Consult a physician immediately...


Given what is going on in the Atlantic right now, I think that chart may not be extended enough.
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2358. VegasRain 2:12 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
This is a little off topic, but still great pictures. A tornado touched down in Athens Ohio home to Ohio University last night before moving into West Virginia. The storm killed 1 man in his home and over 13 people were sent to the hospital including several from Athens High School where a Soccer practice was underway. The school and nearby homes suffered extensive damage. Several trailers were flipped upside down as shown in the photo below.







Link
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2359. Cotillion 2:13 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting CloudGatherer:


The trouble is that the article is in a subscription-only journal. I've got access to it through an institution, but I can't link to it beyond the paywall.


Ah, gotcha. Journal article?
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2360. jeffs713 2:14 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Col15thTex:
2301. RecordSeason 1:37 PM GMT on September 17, 2010

"2287:

That could be pretty sick wind damage indeed.

A mile of elevation...wow.

In theory, we could be talking about effectively cat 4 or cat5 wind damage in some locations. "

Hurricane Ike damage in Brazoria County, TX gives some insite into this phenomena. Single story homes had minor roof damage, mostly missing shingles. Two story homes further inland were virtually destroyed. Roofs completely removed, second stories damaged beyond repair. Apparently only a difference of 12 ft of elevation at 85 mph is significant. I can only imagine how bad it will be at 1 mile elevation.
Based on the track of Ike, Brazoria county was closer to the coast, but further from Ike's track. Also, houses near the coast are likely built much better than those further inland (especially those in the neighborhoods where each lot is 5 feet wider than the house itself).

That said... it is amazing what 12' can do.
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2361. sailingallover 2:14 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting seflagamma:
Whre is this "Lisa" coming from?? I do not see any new invest out there?

Right now the areas with the most potential are the wave that just came off Africa and the area near 12N 45W. But the GFS is not developing anything for at least a week.
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2364. Orcasystems 2:15 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    



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2366. apocalyps 2:16 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Many experts think Igor could turn wsw.
That would mean Florida is not out of the woods yet.
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2367. HCW 2:16 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Winds SSW 15kts Gusting 25Kts at V Cruz

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2368. will40 2:16 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
I'm thinking Igor is going to go further west of Bermuda. They're still gonna get a lashing but maybe not a direct hit. What do you guys think?


Won't this help push IGOR further west?
WVLoop


yea if he could get to between 65W and 70W before a turn would be a lot better
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2369. atmoaggie 2:17 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
This is getting a little long, but worth it.

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2370. sebastianflorida 2:18 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Link
DOOM!
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2374. Chicklit 2:18 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting will40:


yea if he could get to between 65W and 70W before a turn would be a lot better

Sorry, meant east. I get them mixed up all the time... :)
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2375. PrivateIdaho 2:19 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
This wave graphic still shows Bermuda getting off the chart waves (chart scale goes to 34')

Link
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2377. stillwaiting 2:20 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Real cool Nyc tornado videos from yesterdays storms on youtube!!!!,looks like a hurricane,a few are taken from 20-30 stories up!!!!,2nd time they t-warned nyc in 3 months!!!
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2378. SQUAWK 2:20 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting VegasRain:
This is a little off topic, but still great pictures. A tornado touched down in Athens Ohio home to Ohio University last night before moving into West Virginia. The storm killed 1 man in his home and over 13 people were sent to the hospital including several from Athens High School where a Soccer practice was underway. The school and nearby homes suffered extensive damage. Several trailers were flipped upside down as shown in the photo below.







Link


You are not off topic. That is weather related. I wonder if NWS or anyone has done a study to see if trailer parks are tornado magnets. Seems like they get hit a lot.
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2379. Chicklit 2:21 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:
This wave graphic still shows Bermuda getting off the chart waves (chart scale goes to 34')BR

Unfortunately Igor may make Fabian look like a sissy...I believe the Fabe only had 15 ft. waves.
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2380. sunlinepr 2:22 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    


WV Interaction
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2382. sunlinepr 2:23 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Igor WV
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2383. pcbdragon 2:23 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting sebastianflorida:
Link
DOOM!

Sept. 29- Oct. 3 could be interesting
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2384. apocalyps 2:23 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Igor seems to move to the left .
Could mean big trouble.
I hope people in Florida are prepared,just in case.
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2385. GetReal 2:23 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting sebastianflorida:
Link
DOOM!



It will only take ONE!!!
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2386. PanhandleChuck 2:23 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting SQUAWK:


You are not off topic. That is weather related. I wonder if NWS or anyone has done a study to see if trailer parks are tornado magnets. Seems like they get hit a lot.


They toss them like matchbox cars!
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2387. 900MB 2:24 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting stillwaiting:
Real cool Nyc tornado videos from yesterdays storms on youtube!!!!,looks like a hurricane,a few are taken from 20-30 stories up!!!!,2nd time they t-warned nyc in 3 months!!!


I actually think it is 3 or 4 T warnings NYC this summer. Weird year!
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2388. PanhandleChuck 2:25 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting GetReal:



It will only take ONE!!!


+1 --- That's what most folks in here forget, one bad one where they live and they will always remember
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2389. CybrTeddy 2:26 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Karl should be inland before 12 pm.
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2390. apocalyps 2:26 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Yesterday everyone could see Karl would reach to CAT2-3 status.Thats why i mentioned it yesterday.But i expected Karl to be a little bit more to the north.
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2394. CloudGatherer 2:28 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 17th day of the month at 14:23Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 301)
Storm Number & Year: 13L in 2010
Storm Name: Karl (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 5
Observation Number: 14
A. Time of Center Fix: 17th day of the month at 14:12:40Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 1927'N 9552'W (19.45N 95.8667W)
B. Center Fix Location: 213 miles (343 km) to the E (89) from Mxico City, Distrito Federal, Mxico.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,798m (9,180ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 86kts (~ 99.0mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 9 nautical miles (10 statute miles) to the NW (323) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 46 at 97kts (From the NE at ~ 111.6mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the NW (324) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 959mb (28.32 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 16C (61F) at a pressure alt. of 3,060m (10,039ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 16C (61F) at a pressure alt. of 3,026m (9,928ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 12C (54F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Closed
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind and Pressure
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 0 nautical miles
Remarks Section:
Maximum Wind Outbound: 118kts (~ 135.8mph) in the southeast quadrant at 14:14:40Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 118kts (~ 135.8mph) in the southeast quadrant at 14:14:40Z
Maximum Flight Level Temp: 18C (64F) which was observed 7 nautical miles to the NW (325) from the flight level center
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2395. CybrTeddy 2:28 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Interesting enough, Karl will be the first major hurricane to make landfall in the Gulf since Hurricane Wilma.
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2396. TampaTom 2:28 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting SQUAWK:


You are not off topic. That is weather related. I wonder if NWS or anyone has done a study to see if trailer parks are tornado magnets. Seems like they get hit a lot.


Just an aside.. tornadoes don't head toward trailer parks... it's just that those structures are more lightly built than more permanents structures, so they tend to get more damage for the same intensity of tornado.

Add to that the fact that mobile homes are more densely sited than other structures, so any damage is likely to affect more structures...
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2398. sunlinepr 2:28 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
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2399. Cotillion 2:28 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
One of the first advisories had it being inland just after 1am Saturday.

So, maybe a full 12 hours early - much like Hermine.
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2400. cheezemm 2:29 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting MahFL:
Anyone think the blog is better without StormW's cryptic clues, and the 20 posts per hour praising/castagising him ?


I like to talk about weather
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2401. kwgirl 2:29 PM GMT on September 17, 2010    
Quoting SQUAWK:


You are not off topic. That is weather related. I wonder if NWS or anyone has done a study to see if trailer parks are tornado magnets. Seems like they get hit a lot.
I have a theory about why tornadoes are attracted to mobile homes. Even though they are mostly aluminium, there is still enough metal to cause a magnetic attraction to the tornadoes. I wonder is anyone ever explored this phenomenon and came up with the same idea. Then we could develop "tornado protection' by way of giant magnets with the ability to change polarity in order to repel the twister.LOL
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