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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:35 PM GMT on September 25, 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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901. PSLFLCaneVet 11:43 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting utilaeastwind:
Here are some pictures from Utila, Honduras taken this morning. The strong seas lasted about two hours.

Enough!





http://www.utilaeastwind.com/Utilaeastwind_TSMATTHEW45.jpg


Perfect illustration why building right on the ocean is a BAD idea.
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903. Seflhurricane 11:43 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
the area of convection to the south of haiti looks very intresting ?????
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905. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:44 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
it would be intresting to see if the next model runs still remain consistent with the new system yet to form


Way to change the subject there!
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It appears Florida's luck is about to run out this coming week. You guys are going to have a rough October.
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907. atmoaggie 11:44 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:
Just so you guys know, yes I'm being technical, and probably annoying for saying this, but the term "monsoon" cannot refer to systems in the Caribbean, they don't occur in that part of the world.

However, it is possibly for an almost monsoonal pattern to occur, but not actually a true monsoon.
Yet, oddly, Arizona *does* have an actual monsoon.
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908. Seflhurricane 11:45 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Way to change the subject there!
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It appears Florida's luck is about to run out this coming week. You guys are going to have a rough October.
i really hope not.
even tough the models say otherwise
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909. alcomat 11:45 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
the cold front has pulled up stationary or has washed out from what I can tell across texas,no way this front makes it to florida.dont see any sw winds in the gulf to show a pull toward florida,and the models are all over the gom with the track,so yes it is possible for matthew to get in the boc,and head for texas or louisiana.one last note sammy,if I recall it was still a depression!
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911. stormwatcherCI 11:45 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
the area of convection to the south of haiti looks very intresting ?????


I asked earlier if this was a surface circulation south of Haiti but no-one answered so I still don't know.
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912. islander101010 11:46 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
could be a few very sheared systems moving through florida somewhat like a trough with low pressures embedded. am i seeing this right?
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913. Seflhurricane 11:46 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Way to change the subject there!
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It appears Florida's luck is about to run out this coming week. You guys are going to have a rough October.
hey tropical the area to the south of haiti looks intresting cound that be our Nicole ??? convection has been increasing since midday
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915. Seflhurricane 11:48 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:


I asked earlier if this was a surface circulation south of Haiti but no-one answered so I still don't know.
yeah i find this area suspiciouse
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916. scott39 11:48 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Matthew is far from dead. It looks like its taking a track just S of what Alex did. It will be interesting if it hooks back like the NHC has it going. Its only about 160-180 miles away from the BOC to feed off of.
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919. Jedkins01 11:50 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Yet, oddly, Arizona *does* has an actual monsoon.


Yeah I know, I grew up there actually before moving to Florida lol.

Despite the exotic tropical sound of "monsoon", it really is all about pressure differences and shift in wind. Yet most people think a monsoon is a hurricane type storm, but its not a storm at all, rather extreme changes in weather pattern.

India has a monsoon, because cold dry winds from the mountains to the north bring high pressure, and extremely dry weather during the dry season(offshore wind), this is part of the monsoon as well despite what some have heard.

But during the wet season, deep moisture flowing in off the Indian ocean, and general low air pressure over land causes extremely heavy rainfall during that part of the monsoon.



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920. driftwoodswfl 11:50 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
What are the chances "Nicole" can be just a monsoonal low when it hits Florida? I see more rain than wind
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922. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:51 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
hey tropical the area to the south of haiti looks intresting cound that be our Nicole ??? convection has been increasing since midday


I'm making a blog entry now. I'll let you know in just a little bit. :)
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924. Chicklit 11:51 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
yeah i find this area suspicious

We're all wondering where the suspicious blob that will attack Florida will come from!
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925. Jedkins01 11:52 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting driftwoodswfl:
What are the chances "Nicole" can be just a monsoonal low when it hits Florida? I see more rain than wind



lol remember, its not a monsoonal low, if it ends up being not tropical, then it will either be a hybrid, or just a mid-latitude cyclone
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926. WXTXN 11:52 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Winds back out of the Southeast here in corpus,  briefly shifted ne this morning but dewpoint never dropped.    There is no front protecting Tx.
Quoting alcomat:
the cold front has pulled up stationary or has washed out from what I can tell across texas,no way this front makes it to florida.dont see any sw winds in the gulf to show a pull toward florida,and the models are all over the gom with the track,so yes it is possible for matthew to get in the boc,and head for texas or louisiana.one last note sammy,if I recall it was still a depression!

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927. mbjjm 11:52 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
would someone please tell the NHC to at least place the system South of Haiti on their graphical outlook.

yellow would be fine.

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929. Grothar 11:53 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
The ECMWF also shows a cluster of 4 lows (not tropical storms) in the same time frame. Not an unusual pattern for this time of year.

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932. InTheCone 11:54 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:


Yeah I know, I grew up there actually before moving to Florida lol.

Despite the exotic tropical sound of "monsoon", it really is all about pressure differences and shift in wind. Yet most people think a monsoon is a hurricane type storm, but its not a storm at all, rather extreme changes in weather pattern.

India has a monsoon, because cold dry winds from the mountains to the north bring high pressure, and extremely dry weather during the dry season(offshore wind), this is part of the monsoon as well despite what some have heard.

But during the wet season, deep moisture flowing in off the Indian ocean, and general low air pressure over land causes extremely heavy rainfall during that part of the monsoon.





Interesting, nice post!
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933. nrtiwlnvragn 11:54 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Yet, oddly, Arizona *does* have an actual monsoon.


It has recently met it's demise. Thought that was an odd term from CPC.
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934. driftwoodswfl 11:54 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:



lol remember, its not a monsoonal low, if it ends up being not tropical, then it will either be a hybrid, or just a mid-latitude cyclone

ok gotcha... still learning.. thanks!
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935. IKE 11:54 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
From New Orleans discussion....

"THE
COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL END THE THREAT OF RAIN SUNDAY
NIGHT...AND THE COOLER AND MUCH LESS HUMID AIR WILL SURGE IN RIGHT
BEHIND THE FRONT."


From Mobile,AL. discussion...

"THE FRONT WILL BEGIN TO SLOWLY PROGRESS EASTWARD SUNDAY NIGHT...
BECOMING LOCATED NEAR OR JUST EAST OF THE I-65 CORRIDOR BY 12Z MONDAY
MORNING. THEREFORE...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL STAY NUMEROUS
THROUGH MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT...ESPECIALLY OVER THE EASTERN ZONES WITH
DRIER CONDITIONS SLOWLY MOVING IN FROM THE WEST. THE FRONT CLEARS THE
EASTERN ZONES BY MIDDAY MONDAY AS THE UPPER LOW BEGINS TO MOVE MORE
QUICKLY EAST TOWARD THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS. WITH THE FROPA
OCCURRING MONDAY MORNING THERE WILL BE A LARGER GRADIENT IN LOW
TEMPERATURES. MIN TEMPS WILL RANGE FROM THE UPPER 50S ACROSS THE FAR
NW ZONES TO THE UPPER 60S/LOWERS 70S ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND THE
NW FL PANHANDLE. HIGHS MONDAY NEAR 80S NW TO MID 80S EAST. BY MONDAY
NIGHT...CLEAR SKIES AND DRY AIR WILL ALLOW IT TO FINALLY FEEL LIKE
FALL AS LOWS DROP INTO THE LOW 50S INLAND TO NEAR 60 CLOSER TO THE
COAST."......


Welcome to fall 2010.

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938. Grothar 11:55 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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939. largeeyes 11:55 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

They show him dissipated by then so there's no plot


So he's lazarus for the Tuesday dot?
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943. atmoaggie 11:56 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Every 12 hours our forecast lows get lower for Mon and Tues. Now calling for 56 and 57 F those 2 nights. Prolly sleeping with the windows open for a change.

And, yes, the front will be coming through.
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944. PanhandleChuck 11:57 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I'd think by 2am CDT outlook, there will be one.


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946. BenBIogger 11:57 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Buoy located at 16.8N 81.5 (East of Honduras) pressure is dropping.
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947. WeatherNerdPR 11:57 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:

What's that to my South East?
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949. leo305 11:59 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting BenBIogger:
Buoy located at 16.8N 81.5 (East of Honduras) pressure is dropping.


yep looks like I was right.. there's a low forming around that area or just south east of there
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950. atmoaggie 11:59 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


It has recently met it's demise. Thought that was an odd term from CPC.
Maybe they think that climate change has killed it and it's gone forever?
(while intended as a sarc comment, some folks really do think this way all the time and concerning everything)
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