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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:35 PM GMT on September 25, 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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1351. geepy86 2:37 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting scottiesaunt:


Be sure to get Mom's permission to play outside.
LOL
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1352. MiamiHurricanes09 2:37 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
THERE WERE THREE OBSERVING SITES IN HONDURAS AND GUATEMALA THAT REPORTED BETWEEN 6.1 AND 7.3 INCHES OF RAIN IN THE 24-HOUR PERIOD ENDING AT 0000 UTC.
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1353. flsky 2:38 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
000
WTNT45 KNHC 260233
TCDAT5
TROPICAL DEPRESSION MATTHEW DISCUSSION NUMBER 11
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL152010
1000 PM CDT SAT SEP 25 2010

INFRARED IMAGERY SHOWS DEEP CONVECTION INCREASING AGAIN NEAR THE
CENTER OF MATTHEW TONIGHT. THE INTENSITY IS HELD AT 30 KT BASED ON
A 25-KT 10-MINUTE WIND FROM CIUDAD DEL CARMEN MEXICO NORTH OF THE
CENTER AROUND 0000 UTC...AND THE CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 1001 MB IS
BASED ON AN OBSERVATION FROM TIKAL GUATEMALA AS THE CENTER PASSED
NEARBY. GRADUAL WEAKENING IS EXPECTED AS THE CYCLONE WILL REMAIN
OVER LAND...WITH DISSIPATION EXPECTED BY 72 HOURS.

SATELLITE IMAGERY AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT MATTHEW IS
LOCATED FARTHER SOUTH AND WEST THAN PREVIOUSLY ESTIMATED...AND THE
INITIAL MOTION IS 285/12. MATTHEW CONTINUES TO HAVE A LARGE
CIRCULATION EMBEDDED WITHIN A LARGER REGION OF CYCLONIC FLOW THAT
EXTENDS FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC TO THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN. THE
CYCLONE WILL BE MOVING INTO A REGION OF WEAK STEERING FLOW IN
THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS...AND THE FORWARD SPEED SHOULD SLOW
DRAMATICALLY. BEYOND THAT TIME...A VERY SLOW SOUTHWARD OR
SOUTHEASTWARD DRIFT SEEMS LIKELY AS WHAT IS LEFT OF MATTHEW ROTATES
WITHIN THE LARGER CYCLONIC GYRE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST HAS BEEN
SHIFTED SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE DUE TO THE INITIAL
POSITION AND MOTION AND A SOUTHWARD TREND IN MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE
FROM 24 TO 48 HOURS.

TORRENTIAL RAINS WILL CONTINUE WITH MATTHEW AND ITS REMNANTS OVER
THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THERE WERE THREE OBSERVING SITES IN HONDURAS
AND GUATEMALA THAT REPORTED BETWEEN 6.1 AND 7.3 INCHES OF RAIN IN
THE 24-HOUR PERIOD ENDING AT 0000 UTC.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 26/0300Z 17.0N 91.0W 30 KT...INLAND
12HR VT 26/1200Z 17.4N 92.1W 25 KT...INLAND
24HR VT 27/0000Z 17.7N 92.6W 25 KT...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
36HR VT 27/1200Z 17.5N 92.6W 20 KT...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
48HR VT 28/0000Z 17.4N 92.5W 20 KT...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
72HR VT 29/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER BRENNAN

Doesn't this update usually come out at 11pm EDT? Should we worry about the timing?
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1355. PSLFLCaneVet 2:38 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

I think psychologists would see it as a treasure trove!


Agreed, Sky.
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1356. xcool 2:39 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
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1357. will40 2:39 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Doesn't this update usually come out at 11pm EDT? Should we worry about the timing?


no they have been early quite a bit
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1358. MiamiHurricanes09 2:40 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Doesn't this update usually come out at 11pm EDT? Should we worry about the timing?
They're using CDT since that is the time zone the cyclone is located in.
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1359. scott39 2:41 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
THERE WERE THREE OBSERVING SITES IN HONDURAS AND GUATEMALA THAT REPORTED BETWEEN 6.1 AND 7.3 INCHES OF RAIN IN THE 24-HOUR PERIOD ENDING AT 0000 UTC.
Thats very bad for them!!
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1360. weatherwart 2:41 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
THERE WERE THREE OBSERVING SITES IN HONDURAS AND GUATEMALA THAT REPORTED BETWEEN 6.1 AND 7.3 INCHES OF RAIN IN THE 24-HOUR PERIOD ENDING AT 0000 UTC.


That's not good. Now, with the system slowing down, more flooding with land and mudslides can be expected. What a mess.
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1361. centex 2:41 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
No stall still 13MPH, but they did move back to WNW which makes no since if about to stall. My BOC forecast needs NW or NNW to make any difference.
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1362. will40 2:42 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
its still 18 min till the hour but they have done it a lot of times.
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1364. scott39 2:43 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting centex:
Maybe, especially if they have data to support it. But there forecast is to dissipate and move NE so they have vested interest in not over stating it. They don't want to complicate things and consider BOC regeneration, it’s not part of their official forecast.
Now thier saying it will drift S and SE. I dont see any mention of models.
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1365. FookyMonster 2:44 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting PcolaDan:
So near, yet so far. I'm near where the interstate meets the west side of Escambia Bay. Missed it by |-| that much.



Northpointe?
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1366. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:44 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
(TD)(Matthew)[35 MPH]{0.0 MPH -2 MB}

First pair of parenthesis is its category (TD, TD, etc).

The Second is the storms name.

The brackets represent its wind speeds.

The last "whatever you call it" shows how the pressure and wind speeds change.

0.0 mph means that the winds stayed the same.

-2 means that the pressure went down 2 millibars.
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1367. JLPR2 2:44 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
It's alive, it's alive! XD
Ex-Julia continues to spin in the northern CATL.
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1368. lickitysplit 2:45 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
I wonder, with all that rain coming now, if the fact that most of the native forest were cut down and planted with banana plantations by American and European companies is going to contribute to death and destruction via landslides, etc.
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1369. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:45 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
(TS)(Lisa)[45 MPH]{-5 MPH +10 MB}
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1370. JLPR2 2:45 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
And this is cute, LOL! Little area of convection, more like a thunderstorm east of the islands.
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1371. MiamiHurricanes09 2:47 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
(TD)(Matthew)[35 MPH]{0.0 MPH -2 MB}

First pair of parenthesis is its category (TD, TD, etc).

The Second is the storms name.

The brackets represent its wind speeds.

The last "whatever you call it" shows how the pressure and wind speeds change.

0.0 mph means that the winds stayed the same.

-2 means that the pressure went down 2 millibars.
Curly brackets. :P
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1372. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:47 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Curly brackets. :P


Curly brackets...

lol
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1375. centex 2:48 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Now thier saying it will drift S and SE. I dont see any mention of models.
Well it makes more since than NE at that latitude this time of year. BOC only makes since if it can get pulled N, I was just thinking some N not big N and NE quickly. Models had a melt down, back to the drawing boards.
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1376. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:49 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Think its too late to make a blog entry?

I keep postponing it, and I've not made one since Igor was a TD!
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1377. will40 2:49 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
No your shower curtain should suffice.
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1380. MelbourneTom 2:50 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
At least this is far enough out that it is likely to change from this model forecast.

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1381. MiamiHurricanes09 2:50 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Think its too late to make a blog entry?

I keep postponing it, but I've not made one since Igor was a TD!
Nah, go ahead.

I made the second blog entry I promised just a little while ago. Check it out if you're interested.
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1382. FookyMonster 2:51 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting PcolaDan:

Near Walmart.


Were you there for Ivan? What a punk that hurricane was! Killed my condo! Good to see a fellow Pcolian!
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1383. bswigg 2:51 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    


When doesthe CMC update...almost like the gfs run...sorta
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1384. flsky 2:51 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting 7544:
evening all i think we might have a surpise at dmax tonight get the dounuts ready

Sheesh, here I go w/another question. (This is why my comment # is at zero! Seems I'm always on a learning curve re tropical wx). DMAX? I googled it and could find the exact time that this occurs. Help?
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1385. flsky 2:52 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Sheesh, here I go w/another question. (This is why my comment # is at zero! Seems I'm always on a learning curve re tropical wx). DMAX? I googled it and could find the exact time that this occurs. Help?

I mean my POST #!
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1386. scott39 2:53 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting centex:
Well it makes more since than NE at that latitude this time of year. BOC only makes since if it can get pulled N, I was just thinking some N not big N and NE quickly. Models had a melt down, back to the drawing boards.
How many hours until it could feel the pull? It needs to climb in Lattitude.
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1388. PcolaDan 2:56 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting FookyMonster:


Were you there for Ivan? What a punk that hurricane was! Killed my condo! Good to see a fellow Pcolian!


That's the one that made me decide to evacuate from now on. :)
Helped people check their houses on the Beach after. Took them in my Jeep. No losses, but water inside? Oh yea.
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1389. Stevebahamas 2:56 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Florida, Florida, Florida..... i hope that people will think about us if we're in the firing line!!!!!!
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1392. centex 2:58 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
No forecaster should be ashamed by Matthew. I give a special crow reprieve, due to demand and not wanting to create an environmental disaster.
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1393. MiamiHurricanes09 2:58 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Sheesh, here I go w/another question. (This is why my comment # is at zero! Seems I'm always on a learning curve re tropical wx). DMAX? I googled it and could find the exact time that this occurs. Help?
The diurnal maximum (or DMAX) occurs after 2a.m EDT all the way to 8a.m EDT. Here's an excellent article explaining the diurnal cycles:

AMS Journal -- The Diurnal Cycle in the Tropics

(Very long, but a great read nonetheless).
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1394. JLPR2 2:58 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
The NW Caribbean is displaying lower-than-normal pressures. I expect the development of a surface low north of Honduras sometime tomorrow. This will likely make what is forecast to become Nicole a discernible feature.

Click for larger image


yeah, the 950mb vort went nuts there
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1396. wunderkidcayman 2:59 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
hey guys I think that matthew is starting to make it turn NE or ENE
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1397. will40 2:59 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting flsky:

I mean my POST #!



Dmin as just before sunset and Dmax is just before sunrise
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1398. scott39 3:01 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
hey guys I think that matthew is starting to make it turn NE or ENE
Hey Kid Im not trying to give you a hard time---But how do you see that???
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1400. Droab 3:04 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Not sure of mountainous or low lying terrain in this region, but with latest fix it looks to be same distance going NW to BOC compared to drifting SE back into the caribbean sea. Didn't it strengthem the other night over land in that region? Already seems to be popping again late tonite.
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1401. scott39 3:06 AM GMT on September 26, 2010    
Quoting centex:
No forecaster should be ashamed by Matthew. I give a special crow reprieve, due to demand and not wanting to create an environmental disaster.
I still think he has a shot to get in the BOC. Slowing down to 10mph at WNW for 12 hours would put Matthew in the BOC.
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