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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:35 PM GMT on September 25, 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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152. sunlinepr 5:16 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting txjac:
Post 137

Now that is spaghetti ...lots of uncertainy


Lots, I don't even understand 144 prediction
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153. IKE 5:16 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
My uncle lives in Gulf Breeze(?) not sure if that is right. Is that near you ?


That's correct.

About 60-70 miles from me. I'm inland about 30 miles...from Sandestin,FL.
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154. unruly 5:16 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting CaptnDan142:


You seem to enjoy ragging on everyone else who makes statements in here - yet you come up with something like this. OK, so you are entitled to your own opinion - but, since you hold everyone else to your own high standard, how about giving us an example of what that is?

We would all look forward to your take on things, even though it would no doubt be way over our heads. But don't let that bother you - we can all look up anything we don't understand.

So go ahead, grace us with your wisdom.
killin 'em with kindness?? nice approach :)
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156. 7544 5:17 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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157. Bretts9112 5:18 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


About 60-70 miles from me. I'm inland about 30 miles...from Sandestin,FL.

Crestview lol?
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158. CaptnDan142 5:18 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Which makes the banning feature worthless. They should require an annual fee to post on here. That might cut down on circumventing a ban.


That'll never happen as long as there is advertising on here. Ad prices are based on page hits, and allowing only paid members to post will cut down on traffic.

All about the money.
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159. Grecojdw 5:19 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Bretts9112:

Crestview lol?


No, he's in DeFuniak Springs I believe?
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160. flsky 5:20 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Has anyone checked out the GFDL model? It has M coming back out over the Bay of Honduras!
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161. tropicaltank 5:20 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Florida panhandle born and bread.
And,of course y'all dinner is the biggest meal of the day.
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162. will40 5:21 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Dr Masters tried to get a fee for new members to post on his blog but WU rejected it
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164. IKE 5:21 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
NOGAPS out to 180 hours....spins up a system near 22N and 88W on the end of the run.....Link
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165. IKE 5:22 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting CaptnDan142:


That'll never happen as long as there is advertising on here. Ad prices are based on page hits, and allowing only paid members to post will cut down on traffic.

All about the money.


What you said does make sense.
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166. IKE 5:23 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting Grecojdw:


No, he's in DeFuniak Springs I believe?


Correct.
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167. barbamz 5:23 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
156. 7544 05:17 PM GMT am 25. September 2010

Cool, Matthew is throwing a discus to FL

Edit: Of course, I'm just refering to the animation. I don't wish harm to anybody
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168. coffeecrusader 5:23 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
According to AccuWeather.com Hurricane Expert Joe Bastardi, "Whether it is Matthew, or a reformed version of it, perhaps with the name Nicole, a hit is coming for Florida later next week, then the storm could move north into the Southeast and mid-Atlantic states."
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169. auburn (Mod) 5:24 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting will40:
Dr Masters tried to get a fee for new members to post on his blog but WU rejected it


Ummm.... where did you hear that?
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171. kmanislander 5:24 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Good afternoon

The ridge has now been breached and the axis is well offshore in the Atl.

The gap can now be seen quite clearly and should lead to the collapse of the steering flow soon.

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172. 7544 5:25 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting barbamz:
156. 7544 05:17 PM GMT am 25. September 2010

Cool, Matthew is throwing a discus to FL


q and he looks really mad lol
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173. gordydunnot 5:25 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Matt forecast tracts looks like an upside down jellyfish. Seems all we know for sure is it's going to be wet and windy somewhere in Fl. next week if not the whole state.
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174. will40 5:25 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting auburn:


Ummm.... where did you hear that?


an E_mail from Masters
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175. CybrTeddy 5:26 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
Like the GFS suggests, I don't see any indication of anything stronger than a cat 2 in the GOM next week. Even taking into account the GFS having the core analyzed already (which it probably doesn't yet), I'm not seeing anything below a 975mb or 980mb storm.


Aye, but with Karl the GFS had a 1004 mb low in the BOC 120 hours out. look what happened. Not trusting ANY model right now with track or intensity.
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176. myway 5:26 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting coffeecrusader:
According to AccuWeather.com Hurricane Expert Joe Bastardi, "Whether it is Matthew, or a reformed version of it, perhaps with the name Nicole, a hit is coming for Florida later next week, then the storm could move north into the Southeast and mid-Atlantic states."


What day is that quote from. I think the exact same thing was said yesterday. Has he posted again today with the same info?
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177. Patrap 5:26 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Matthew

Rainbow Image

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178. weatherwart 5:26 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Still another Day of Confusing Models? Control freaks must be getting a little crazy.

Has anyone heard any news out of C. America? Last thing I heard was someone on here saying predictions from Honduras (was it?) of 2mm of rain from Matthew. I think they got that one wrong.
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179. Mikla 5:26 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
12Z GFS on Fri, 10/1 00Z... brushes W coast of FL...
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180. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:27 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting ROBTX09:
151. stormwatcherCI 5:15 PM GMT on September 25, 2010
Quoting BreadandCircuses:




Not to mention you're circumventing a ban, btwntx

100

hes lying b and c messed up up the blog seriously ppl just dont know how to be quiet


Please don't start an argument...
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181. Patrap 5:27 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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182. Patrap 5:28 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
GOM IR Loop

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183. Patrap 5:28 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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185. Bielle 5:29 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Blog Update

Matthew drenching Central America along with Mexico


Impressed with your knowledge and general writing ability!
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186. PanhandleChuck 5:30 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting coffeecrusader:
According to AccuWeather.com Hurricane Expert Joe Bastardi, "Whether it is Matthew, or a reformed version of it, perhaps with the name Nicole, a hit is coming for Florida later next week, then the storm could move north into the Southeast and mid-Atlantic states."


If the guy continues to throw darts, he will eventually hit the bulls eye sometime this season. LOL
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187. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:30 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
We're off-topic, guys.

Lets get back to weather!
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188. coffeecrusader 5:31 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
I love tropical forecasters who give you the facts and then there take on what they think will happen. I think Rob L. from Crown Weather is the best. He gives you all of the facts and model runs, then gives you his take on what he thinks will happen. Is he right all of the time, No but he is not afraid to give you his opinion (supported by data). I understand the NHC can't do this because they are "the authority" and they set the track which affects people's lives, but I wish other forecasters, like Dr. M, would give his personal take more often.
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189. capefearspt 5:31 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting coffeecrusader:
According to AccuWeather.com Hurricane Expert Joe Bastardi, "Whether it is Matthew, or a reformed version of it, perhaps with the name Nicole, a hit is coming for Florida later next week, then the storm could move north into the Southeast and mid-Atlantic states."

We need the rain this could bring to SE NC...we're -17" and counting
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192. flsky 5:32 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Could someone please post that map that shows the "guessed" and actual center of circulation? Thanks
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193. cctxshirl 5:33 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Went to do beach cleanup (TX Adopt A Beach) so must have missed something here. Very high tides at the beach, kind of hampered the cleanup and some strange trash collected which I attribute to the heavy rains, flooding and high tides here.
At any rate, came to see what Matt is doing.
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195. weatherwart 5:34 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Ah, okay. TWC has footage from Nicaragua near the Honduras border. Lots of flooding, threats of mudslides/landslides. Six to ten inches of rain. Not going to be good for those folks.
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196. FLWeatherFreak91 5:34 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
Quoting sunlinepr:


For me, Haiti's complex situation can be eased somehow by supplying them with, lets say, 4 desalination plants to be located in strategic areas. That would supply water. Housing can be supplied by sending them 20 feet used trailers, (sea land/crowley type), that I've seen junked everywhere around many developed countries. If you supply them with those trailers and windows, etc., they would build their own houses, that well prepared, could withstand an earthquaque and hurricanes. That would be more effective than sending only food and water, that usually ends in the hands of those corrupt and powerfull....
Who is going to fund all of this in your plan? This country doesn't have enough money for its own citizens, let alone for another population entirely.
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197. Patrap 5:34 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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198. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:35 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
YUCK:



Hmmm:

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199. Patrap 5:36 PM GMT on September 25, 2010    
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