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| Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:00 PM GMT on March 11, 2011 | +7 |


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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.
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I've heard the Kobe quake was the most expensive, coming in around $131 billion in 2011 dollars.
they will work no matter what, it's not like they can go take a power nap or a coffee break, it's not like the next shift is gonna come relieve them, how many hours can a human stay awake under these conditions
not saying worst case scenario, no I am not saying that
but how long can they go on until they collapse from fatigue
Similar feature last year in January warranted a name. I just don't get it, I know they are the experts and people need to stop telling me that. Look at the pics, images.. This was warm core yesterday morning. The NHC needs to stop playing games.
BREAKING NEWS: Aftershock hits near stricken Fukushima nuke plant in Japan, local media reports
I KNOW THAT- I AM A CLINICAL HEMATOLOGIST WITH A STRONG BACKGROUND IN BIOCHEMISTRY AND GENETICS
didja read my post? didja?
my question was...how long can they last?
But what "game" would they be playing, Reed? When it was declared an invest a few days ago, some claimed the NHC was dishonestly trying to bump up the number of storms for personal gain. Now--as with last year--others are saying they don't declare enough storms.
I just wish someone would tell me which one it is.
In the meantime, I choose to believe that, armed with oodles of knowledge and experience and the most high-tech tools imaginable, if something is classifiable, they will classify it. If not, they won't.
"Accumulated hydrogen", huh? Hmmm. Like everyone else, I've seen video of the Hindenburg burning at a very rapid rate, and it was full of the purest hydrogen. But still, it took 90 seconds to consume all the hydrogen onboard. It didn't explode and blow the envelope to smithereens, nor did it make a huge and visible overpressure wave.
Not a very scientific analysis, I know. But, still, I'm not buying the Japanese government's explanation. For now...
I wonder if that car seen driving to the right made it out before the water and debris hit.
Wiki says Katrina was US$90.9B(2011), I have no idea where Dr. Masters got the figure of US$133B
they'll never be able to get it running again...as I expected.
FWIW, there are other similar towns in the area, each of them sitting at the northwest terminus of a southeast-facing bay. I don't imagine the news from these areas will be good. Sendai is getting most of the headlines for now, which is to be expected; it's the most populous city on that part of the coast. But I dread hearing from the outlying areas.
I've little doubt the overall monetary damage from the quake and resultant tsunami will put this into the top five globally, even with inflation factored in. The human toll will doubtless be in the many thousands as well...
With the damage it has sustained, it would of been decommissioned. The use of sea water and and boric acid is the final nail in its coffin.
Just FYI...A fuel-air mixture bomb definitely creates a shock wave. The Hindenburg did not explode with a shock wave because there was not the proper mixture of hydrogen and oxygen to create the fuel-air type explosion.
That is why your car has a carburetor or a fuel injector, to create the proper fuel-air mixture.
Poor gasoline on your driveway and light a match, most likely it just burns. Spray some gasoline in the air in just the right amount and boom!
Yeah, that's definitely an admission that they're no longer trying to protect the plant's operational ability.
Agreed
errr...let's not use the word "boom" today, ok?
:)
No way of giving a link now, but maybe later...
Oh, I understand all about fuel-air explosions. But this nevertheless doesn't pass the smell test. I for one am not buying it. At least not yet.
Quoting 410,
They must be reading us for advice, I thought they would fill it with sea water at post 391, they have lots of it and probably not much of anything else.
Nothing will 'never run again' but its also probably ruined anyway? Filling it with seawater is a last chance in the appalling circumstances they are operating in.
I've worked in some big messes but I'm glad I don't have to comment on this one from the inside.
The loss of face if they have to admit it got out of hand will be massive for them and there will be an enquiry but all will be blamed on the earthquake. To be fair if the quake hadn't happened then nobody would be analyzing all this.
On a quake note, an earlier attachment showed what seems to be a very heavy quake bias to the ring of fire on the west,north,south side of the pacific, we have been discussing this and it seem a bit ominous!!
Thanks...
Pro-tip: Don't paint your lighter-than-air craft with rocket fuel and fill it with a flammable gas.
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I agree with you 100% on the no fireball thing, Ive watched it loads of times now.
If you mix hydrogen and oxygen in the right proportions you only need to add a spark but you get a fire ball and there isn't one. So according to an earlier post they said''effots to depressurize the container were successful''
I think and only think but it fits the evidence that the top blew off it, rather like a big pressure cooker, IE it got de-pressurised and the escaping pressure caused the apparent explosion, its also interesting that the explosion doesn't keep spreading outwards after a short distance.
A nuclear catastrophe is when the smoke and air start "sparkling", indicating radioactive material is being spewed into the air.
The explosion is most likely a steam explosion. And yes, steam explosion can produce shock waves. Steam explosions can and have destroyed buildings quite easily.
Shock waves are nothing more than a rapid increase in pressure over a short period of time. They can be cause by ANY pressurized vessel that suddenly gives way. Even popping a balloon creates a minuscule shock wave.
(photos from spaceflightnow)
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
16:00 PM RST March 12 2011
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East of 90E, north-west of Cocos Islands, convective activity remains fluctuating and loosely organized, but available NWP models analyze a broad low level circulation at the convergence between monsoon and trade winds inflows, centered near 10S 95E. Minimal estimated sea level pressure is 1005hPa. At the present time, upper level wind shear is moderate and is unfavorable for the development of this zone of disturbed weather. For the next 72 hours, NWP models are in good agreement for a track south-westward to westward and for a slow deepening of this LLCC. It should enter our area of responsibility on Monday.
For the next 36 hours, there is no potential for the development of a tropical depression. Beyond, potential becomes poor to fair at the extreme East of the basin.
I've been listening to many "experts" on the matter over the last several hours, and none of them are quite willing to give the Japanese government the full benefit of the doubt. The consensus, such as it is, seems to be that a) the government hasn't been as forthcoming as they might, and b) until they can see evidence of exactly what comprised the explosion, they're not willing to say it was hydrogen/oxygen.
If they blew the top off it, or an hole in the containment vessel, with explosive bolts or similar, then that would explain the brief 'orange flash' in the video.
Then they can pump in massive amounts of sea water and this will lower the temperature plus radiation levels by diluting the amount of radiation with the water.
We need a nuclear physicist on this one.
"Pure hydrogen-oxygen flames emit ultraviolet light and are nearly invisible to the naked eye, as illustrated by the faint plume of the Space Shuttle main engine compared to the highly visible plume of a Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster. The detection of a burning hydrogen leak may require a flame detector; such leaks can be very dangerous."
Visible flames in a hydrogen explosion are generally caused by the burning of other materials.
and you are telling me that this is not a meltdown?
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