High wind shear disrupts Emily as it approaches Hispaniola

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2011

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In defiance to its forecast, Tropical Storm Emily continues to move due west this morning, and we wonder just how far west it will get before turning toward Hispaniola. Recent Hurricane Hunter missions have shown that Emily is still very poorly organized, and although the center of circulation is plainly obvious on satellite imagery, it's only because it is so displaced from the thunderstorm activity. Wind shear around the storm is just high enough, around 20 knots out of the west, to push the upper levels of circulation and thunderstorm activity to the east, exposing the surface low. In order for tropical cyclones to intensify (or, continue to exist at all), they need to be vertically stacked and standing straight up in the atmosphere. Right now, Emily is tilting to the east. This is bad news for the organization of the storm, and something that Emily will have to work hard at recovering from. In addition to the wind shear, dry air continues to wrap around the north and west of the storm. This isn't as critical as unfavorable wind shear, but it's not helping to create new thunderstorm activity. The strongest winds of 50 mph were found to the north and east of the center this morning, and Emily is not expected to intensify before making landfall in Hispaniola, which is forecast for tonight. The HWRF is forecasting the strongest precipitation to fall on the northeast side of the storm as is passes over Hispaniola. This is relatively good news for Haiti, but the country could still receive up to 5 inches of rain, and since the models have been trending the track west over the past couple of runs, it's something to watch closely. No matter the scenario, Emily is expected to produce heavy rains, flash flooding, and mudslides in Haiti and the Dominican Republic, which are all to common on the mountainous island.


Figure 1. Forecast precipitation accumulation from the HWRF high resolution model's 6Z (2am EDT) run. The color contour scale is in inches. The coastlines are a thin, red line. The Dominican Republic is expected to get the most rain out of Emily. You can view the HWRF model runs on Wundermap.

Forecast for Tropical Storm Emily
The future of Emily remains uncertain, and even the National Hurricane Center is using the "if" word when forecasting Emily's track after crossing Hispaniola. "If" it makes it north of Hispaniola. Over the past couple of runs, the models have been trending their forecast tracks back to the west, most likely because Emily has remained on a westward track longer than expected. This is expected—the longer Emily remains shallow and unorganized, the longer it will track west. It will need to build up taller in the atmosphere to be influenced by the steering winds that can push it north. Given its westward track, today's models are likely closer to reality than what we've seen in the past couple of days. This morning, the CMC, UKMET, and HWRF models send Emily on a northwest track to Florida. This is a change from the past couple of days for the HWRF, but the CMC and UKMET have consistently been the western boundary of model consensus. THE GFDL has also taken a huge swing to the west, and now suggests it will come very close to a southeast Florida landfall. The ECMWF and GFS continue to forecast that Emily will take a harder turn north through the Bahamas, not reaching the Florida coast.


Figure 2. Satellite image of Tropical Storm Emily at 11:15am EDT. The surface circulation is visible to the west of the strongest thunderstorm activity.

Consensus of the models falls between the HWRF/GFDL solution and the ECMWF/GFS solution, and the National Hurricane Center continues to use the consensus for the official track forecast, which calls for Emily to take a turn to the northwest and make landfall in Hispaniola this afternoon, after which continuing northwest until Saturday morning when it's between the island of Grand Bahama and West Palm Beach, Florida. At this point, they expect the storm to jog north and then northeast.

Emily's intensity forecast continues highly dependent on the track it takes. Assuming it can survive the wrath of Hispaniola, Emily will enter slightly more favorable environmental conditions to the north of the islands. This is what the Hurricane Center is forecasting, although they remain cautious. There is a very good chance that, if Emily does turn northwest today, it will not be able to reorganize after crossing Hispaniola. If it does maintain organization, Emily could reach hurricane strength as it moves northeast out to the open Atlantic. The other scenario at this point is that the storm keeps moving west, which will be detrimental to its orgnization. The models that track Emily into the far eastern Gulf of Mexico don't suggest any reintensification—the CMC fizzles the system below tropical storm strength quickly, probably because of the long track over Cuba it would have to take. In any case, Emily remains a threat most certainly to Hispaniola, and potentially to Florida.

I'm planning a quick update later this afternoon/evening for an update on new model runs, and potential Hispaniola landfall.

Angela

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2020. Civicane49
2:07 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Hurricane Eugene’s cloud top temperature surround the eye has continued to warm slightly over the past several hours. It indicates that it should be at peak intensity and weaken pretty soon as it starts to head over cool SSTS. Its structure has a somewhat annular hurricane like-appearance with a large eye.

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2019. tropicfreak
1:55 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Evening all, so has Emily begun a legit turn north? Or is she still defying the NHC?
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2018. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
1:49 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
05L/TS/E
MARK
16.96N/71.23W
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2017. HurricaneHunterJoe
1:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
come west dear emily
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2016. HurricaneHunterJoe
1:38 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


No, he's right. 280 is just north of due west. 270 is due west.
stay at 280 no further north
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2015. DoubleAction
1:24 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Starting to look like Miami might get this one. She was stalled or drifting and now convection is right over the LLC and she should strengthen and get pulled more NW. Originally I thought this system would move towards SW florida overall and have some land interaction with Cuba.
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2014. weatherjr
1:15 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Good Nights everybody. Til tomorrow
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2013. aspectre
1:10 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Misposted on an obso blog
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2012. lordhuracan01
1:03 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
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2011. snow2fire
12:52 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting blsealevel:


Nope but it will defently give one insight and understanding of term OooH S%$# .


I had the opportunity to do damage assessment following 2 Cat 5s (Mitch - Honduras and Andrew - at Homestead Air Base). One was mostly water event (landslides and flooding) and the other was a wind event.

What I learned is that hurricanes are very dangerous and people need to take them seriously. Property damage can be terrible and disrupt people's lives. But the loss of life is tragic and often could have been avoided.

I hope people take hurricane warnings seriously and protect themselves first - and worry about property second.

This is an excellent forum for helping all of us better understand the threat that hurricanes - and even tropical storms pose.
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2010. wolftribe2009
12:47 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
It should be noted that I am not noticing the ULAC ripping off the northern clouds that i was seeing north of Emily earlier yesterday. Convection is growing with Emily and it looks to me like her environment is improving. We might be finally starting to see the "stronger" Emily. She has stayed at 50 MPH but I think she will soon be a hurricane; perhaps in the next 24 hours if she can move just a little further west. The DR would be a problem if she got to close.

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2009. wayne0224
12:45 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting doabarrelroll:

Unless you were bron before 1935 and lived in Florida and Louisiana that is unlikely as only 3 cat5's have hit the US in the last 100 years. I do belive you are an American right?
you have two now for the third?
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2008. scooster67
12:45 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Would be nice if they played some real teams for more than half the season. Furman, Florida Atlantic, Vanderbilt, etc... are jokes.

Anyways, back to Emily, lol.
SEC ACC Nuff said!
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2007. barotropic
12:43 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Agreed almost no model can handle this storm! But she is a closed LLC 1003mb.


I get the point, but I am sure if you think back over the years many storms in this position with a turn expected to occur near or south of Haiti seem to play games. It historically is a tuff area to forecast. When the forecast called for a turn north across Haiti, I kinda expected a guessing game as to when and exactly where it would happen. Haiti and the surrounding area always seems to create many surprises when systems approach, likewise as storms approach eastern cuba from the south.
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2006. charlottefl
12:43 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting katadman:
Howdy, everyone. Just came in and am trying to catch up. I see that Emily has been nearly stalled for several hours. Has she taken advantage of this and begun to upright herself? I know that her LLC has been far west of the MLC throughout her life so far.


Now the question is when movement resumes to we get a tilt a whirl again?
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2005. PcolaDan
12:43 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
NEWWWWWW BLOGGGGGGGG
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2004. BahaHurican
12:42 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Thank u 4 the WV imagery... to me the trough is so clear there... that's when I began to understand why the NHC was harping on that Wed night turn. It wasn't so much Emily they were confident in as that trough....
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2003. charlottefl
12:42 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Just as a side note with this storm, you can probably expect the forecast track error to be as much as double the normal track error with all the uncertainty at this point, just something to keep in mind.
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2002. blsealevel
12:42 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
If all the lurkers and folks who aren't posting right now who have logged in at once it would probably crash the site. I fail to see how "going through a cat 5" gives one extra insight as to understanding scientific data.


Nope but it will defently give one insight and understanding of term OooH S%$# .
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2001. katadman
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Howdy, everyone. Just came in and am trying to catch up. I see that Emily has been nearly stalled for several hours. Has she taken advantage of this and begun to upright herself? I know that her LLC has been far west of the MLC throughout her life so far.
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2000. Skyepony (Mod)
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting msgambler:
Your missing the point Barotropic. The point is track, and Bamm has been spot on where all other have not.


BAMM hasn't impressed looking at the numbers..

Average track error in nm 0hr, 24hr, 48hr, etc..

BAMM - 97.3 144.7 218.9 270.0 278.6
BAMS - 91.4 90.6 121.6 107.2 147.8
CMC2 0 80.2 90.4 101.9 176.2 -
GFDL 17.5 91.4 106.7 129.3 130.6 142.8
HWRF 18.1 89.2 148.6 245.4 333.0 455.6
LBAR 0 103.9 118.7 178.0 271.6 293.7
LGEM 0 95.2 136.8 204.7 259.8 278.6
NAM 25.3 111.5 - - - -
NAMI 0 95.9 - - - -
NGP2 0 25.1 31.2 - - -
NGPI 0 84.7 110.9 87.1 121.9 -
NGPS 74.0 109.1 72.3 39.8 76.4 110.7
OFCL 2.6 78.3 112.5 114.9
TVCN 0 88.7 106.7 173.2 200.3 353.7
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1999. cloudburst2011
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting BiloxiGirl:
If Emily does move into the Gulf, is there any predictions on speeding up, slowing down etc. once it moves in there? Or is it anyone's guess since she has kind of done her own thing the last 24 hours?



that is really to early to tell right now...we have to see how strong she is at the time...
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1998. sunlinepr
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting stormpetrol:
BTW BS = Bad Sampling


Barometric Science...
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1997. wolftribe2009
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Now let me explain why I am not surprised by Emily.

I did say that Emily would pass near the central islands of the lesser antils (She did). I also said that she would move west of Barhona (Look it up) and that any landfall would NOT be east of there. I also said that it was more likely that anyone stating her location to be in the vicinity of Port-AU-Prince in Haiti would be in the right location. I also stated that my "Red Alert" area would be on Jamica and Eastern Cuba while an "orange" moderate area would be for Haiti/DR

Finally I stated when she was 40 MPH that I expected her to strengthen in the next 12-24 hours (50-60 MPH). We had her strength just 6 hours later to 50 MPH and has remained there ever since.

So that is why I stick to my predictions. I don't care if there is a slight turn (Like Emily was doing when she was going WNW) because I didn't panic because I honestly believed she was going in the right direction and headed right where I said the would. I do not trust NOAA or the models. They change all the time. I look at what we have and make a guess at the best outcome. If I am wrong than I am wrong. No one can be right all the time.
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1996. FLWeatherFreak91
12:41 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
New blog
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1995. doabarrelroll
12:40 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting cloudburst2011:


well camille and andrew for starters.

How very unlucky for you
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1994. geepy86
12:40 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
this is old
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1993. NICycloneChaser
12:40 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Emily weakened 1mb for each of the past 2 fixes.

000
UZNT13 KNHC 040027
XXAA 54008 99169 70707 04460 99005 27407 27515 00044 27005 27514
92733 23405 28508 85472 20056 30504 88999 77999
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
XXBB 54008 99169 70707 04460 00005 27407 11862 20805 22850 20056
33843 19463
21212 00005 27515 11978 26514 22965 27510 33947 29011 44939 28010
55931 30011 66910 26004 77858 29506 88843 32003
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
;


Pressure has been jumping up and down between 1007mb and 1003mb for the past two days, with little wind speed change. Unusual.
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1992. charlottefl
12:40 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting Goldenblack:
sorry to hear that, hope all is much better now...




Yeah, the town actually bounced back surprisingly quick. Some things are just strange to see though. Like my elementary school and high school were completely destroyed, so totally different buildings, stuff like that.
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1991. Goldenblack
12:40 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
I never want to experience that again, and I wasn't in an eyewall....

Rode out Wilma in Fort Myers a year later....didn't really enjoy that either but only got a top wind of 80.

Quoting portcharlotte:
Hey guys, just came on and notice the Charley talk...I was on the northern eyewall ...Sustained 140 with gusts to 175 for about 15 minutes. Lost most of my roof and the house had to be gutted. What a storm!



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1990. uncwhurricane85
12:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting cloudburst2011:




well i have been in 2 cat 5s and possibly 3 its debateable..


so you were in camile, andrew and some other cat 5, my what a long lucky life youve had...SIKE!!!! i suppose you will be in emily when she is a cat 5!
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1989. cloudburst2011
12:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting doabarrelroll:

Unless you were bron before 1935 and lived in Florida and Louisiana that is unlikely as only 3 cat5's have hit the US in the last 100 years. I do belive you are an American right?


well camille and andrew for starters.
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1987. msgambler
12:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting doabarrelroll:

Unless you were bron before 1935 and lived in Florida and Louisiana that is unlikely as only 3 cat5's have hit the US in the last 100 years. I do belive you are an American right?
I don't live in Louisiana or Florida and have been in a Cat 5. And I am all American Never been out of the states. 10 mile to the East of Landfall.
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1986. IKE
12:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
NEW BLOG!
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1985. MiamiHurricanes09
12:39 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Westward shift in the TVCN. Not as far as the HWRF and GFDL though.

AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 0, 169N, 707W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 12, 183N, 728W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 24, 202N, 749W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 36, 221N, 769W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 48, 237N, 779W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 60, 253N, 791W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 72, 270N, 796W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 84, 288N, 794W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 96, 307N, 776W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 108, 325N, 750W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 120, 337N, 720W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 05, 2011080400, 03, TVCN, 132, 356N, 655W, 0, 0, , 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
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1984. portcharlotte
12:38 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Hey guys, just came on and notice the Charley talk...I was on the northern eyewall ...Sustained 140 with gusts to 175 for about 15 minutes. Lost most of my roof and the house had to be gutted. What a storm!



Quoting charlottefl:


Street signs, now that was different trying to find stuff when all the landmarks were gone....
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1983. absurfer
12:38 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
goin surfin sun mon gonna be good up here in nc
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1982. stormpetrol
12:38 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting barotropic:


LOL! Oh well!!


BS= Bad Sampling LOL as least you have a sense of humor!!
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1981. Methurricanes
12:38 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Emily weakened 1mb for each the past 2 fixes.

000
UZNT13 KNHC 040027
XXAA 54008 99169 70707 04460 99005 27407 27515 00044 27005 27514
92733 23405 28508 85472 20056 30504 88999 77999
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
XXBB 54008 99169 70707 04460 00005 27407 11862 20805 22850 20056
33843 19463
21212 00005 27515 11978 26514 22965 27510 33947 29011 44939 28010
55931 30011 66910 26004 77858 29506 88843 32003
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
;
I think they are sampling the windfield, not the central pressure.
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1980. ProgressivePulse
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
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1979. JGreco
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting Seflhurricane:
WILL NOT GO INTO THE GULF !!!! sorry for the caps making a point !!!


Agree. The high is too strong currently blocking any entrance into the Gulf. If this was the end of August that track would have been a possibility.
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1978. JrWeathermanFL
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Is Emily's center displaced?
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1977. Goldenblack
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
sorry to hear that, hope all is much better now...


Quoting charlottefl:


Yeah we have family in North Port we stayed with afterwards, most of our homes were pretty messed up. Kinda strange to see your town destroyed and 10 miles up the road they have power.
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1976. stormpetrol
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting stormpetrol:



Pure BS !!!But the 1003-1004 mb closed low is accurate!

BTW BS = Bad Sampling
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1975. BiloxiGirl
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
If Emily does move into the Gulf, is there any predictions on speeding up, slowing down etc. once it moves in there? Or is it anyone's guess since she has kind of done her own thing the last 24 hours?
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1974. MiamiHurricanes09
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Emily weakened 1mb for each of the past 2 fixes.

000
UZNT13 KNHC 040027
XXAA 54008 99169 70707 04460 99005 27407 27515 00044 27005 27514
92733 23405 28508 85472 20056 30504 88999 77999
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
XXBB 54008 99169 70707 04460 00005 27407 11862 20805 22850 20056
33843 19463
21212 00005 27515 11978 26514 22965 27510 33947 29011 44939 28010
55931 30011 66910 26004 77858 29506 88843 32003
31313 09608 80014
61616 AF306 0805A EMILY OB 26
62626 EYE SPL 1688N07070W 0015 MBL WND 27013 AEV 20802 DLM WND 28
008 004843 WL150 27014 084 REL 1688N07070W 001410 SPG 1688N07070W
001554 =
;
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1973. cajunkid
12:37 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
WSW movement...or slightly South of due West. Easy to see right now.
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1972. mrsalagranny
12:36 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting msgambler:
Haven't seen ya on here since early last year. I gave up and left for the rest of the season. I'm gonna try to make it a little longer this season. No promises though....LOL
It is always a pleasure to see you and many familiar names on here.You have always had patience with me and my old self.I think Florida really needs to watch this one close.
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1971. doabarrelroll
12:36 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting cloudburst2011:




well i have been in 2 cat 5s and possibly 3 its debateable..

Unless you were bron before 1935 and lived in Florida and Louisiana that is unlikely as only 3 cat5's have hit the US in the last 100 years. I do belive you are an American right?
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1970. cloudburst2011
12:36 AM GMT on August 04, 2011
Quoting WxLogic:
Emily starting to move West based on last HH fix.


thats what i was trying to tell them..due west
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