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High wind shear disrupts Emily as it approaches Hispaniola
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2011 +26
In defiance to its forecast, Tropical Storm Emily continues to move due west this morning, and we wonder just how far west it will get before turning toward Hispaniola. Recent Hurricane Hunter missions have shown that Emily is still very poorly organized, and although the center of circulation is plainly obvious on satellite imagery, it's only because it is so displaced from the thunderstorm activity. Wind shear around the storm is just high enough, around 20 knots out of the west, to push the upper levels of circulation and thunderstorm activity to the east, exposing the surface low. In order for tropical cyclones to intensify (or, continue to exist at all), they need to be vertically stacked and standing straight up in the atmosphere. Right now, Emily is tilting to the east. This is bad news for the organization of the storm, and something that Emily will have to work hard at recovering from. In addition to the wind shear, dry air continues to wrap around the north and west of the storm. This isn't as critical as unfavorable wind shear, but it's not helping to create new thunderstorm activity. The strongest winds of 50 mph were found to the north and east of the center this morning, and Emily is not expected to intensify before making landfall in Hispaniola, which is forecast for tonight. The HWRF is forecasting the strongest precipitation to fall on the northeast side of the storm as is passes over Hispaniola. This is relatively good news for Haiti, but the country could still receive up to 5 inches of rain, and since the models have been trending the track west over the past couple of runs, it's something to watch closely. No matter the scenario, Emily is expected to produce heavy rains, flash flooding, and mudslides in Haiti and the Dominican Republic, which are all to common on the mountainous island.


Figure 1. Forecast precipitation accumulation from the HWRF high resolution model's 6Z (2am EDT) run. The color contour scale is in inches. The coastlines are a thin, red line. The Dominican Republic is expected to get the most rain out of Emily. You can view the HWRF model runs on Wundermap.

Forecast for Tropical Storm Emily
The future of Emily remains uncertain, and even the National Hurricane Center is using the "if" word when forecasting Emily's track after crossing Hispaniola. "If" it makes it north of Hispaniola. Over the past couple of runs, the models have been trending their forecast tracks back to the west, most likely because Emily has remained on a westward track longer than expected. This is expected—the longer Emily remains shallow and unorganized, the longer it will track west. It will need to build up taller in the atmosphere to be influenced by the steering winds that can push it north. Given its westward track, today's models are likely closer to reality than what we've seen in the past couple of days. This morning, the CMC, UKMET, and HWRF models send Emily on a northwest track to Florida. This is a change from the past couple of days for the HWRF, but the CMC and UKMET have consistently been the western boundary of model consensus. THE GFDL has also taken a huge swing to the west, and now suggests it will come very close to a southeast Florida landfall. The ECMWF and GFS continue to forecast that Emily will take a harder turn north through the Bahamas, not reaching the Florida coast.


Figure 2. Satellite image of Tropical Storm Emily at 11:15am EDT. The surface circulation is visible to the west of the strongest thunderstorm activity.

Consensus of the models falls between the HWRF/GFDL solution and the ECMWF/GFS solution, and the National Hurricane Center continues to use the consensus for the official track forecast, which calls for Emily to take a turn to the northwest and make landfall in Hispaniola this afternoon, after which continuing northwest until Saturday morning when it's between the island of Grand Bahama and West Palm Beach, Florida. At this point, they expect the storm to jog north and then northeast.

Emily's intensity forecast continues highly dependent on the track it takes. Assuming it can survive the wrath of Hispaniola, Emily will enter slightly more favorable environmental conditions to the north of the islands. This is what the Hurricane Center is forecasting, although they remain cautious. There is a very good chance that, if Emily does turn northwest today, it will not be able to reorganize after crossing Hispaniola. If it does maintain organization, Emily could reach hurricane strength as it moves northeast out to the open Atlantic. The other scenario at this point is that the storm keeps moving west, which will be detrimental to its orgnization. The models that track Emily into the far eastern Gulf of Mexico don't suggest any reintensification—the CMC fizzles the system below tropical storm strength quickly, probably because of the long track over Cuba it would have to take. In any case, Emily remains a threat most certainly to Hispaniola, and potentially to Florida.

I'm planning a quick update later this afternoon/evening for an update on new model runs, and potential Hispaniola landfall.

Angela
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902. FLWeatherFreak91 8:42 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
The CMC shows Emily barely contacting the sw tip of Hispaniola, before running her into Eastern Cuba. Then the circulation reforms on the north coast of Cuba and continues wnw (over plenty of warm water) into the SE Gulf where it is caught by the weakness and sent into west central Florida.
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904. Walshy 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Hey, North Carolina need rains badly so this is good sign for people in Raleigh. I was wondering what's the chances of tropical storm force winds for Raleigh or is it 0% no matter what?


I think it was 5%.
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905. KATRINABILOXIGIRL 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting midnightstorm:
Long time lurker, first time poster! Having seen
Katrina off the east coast of Florida before she
developed, raggedy, and un -certain, I never let
my guard down here in SE Louisiana!
Amen to that!!!!
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906. patrikdude2 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yup. Lol.

Personally, John Morales of NBC 6 is the most knowledgeable and most calm out of everyone in south Florida. That's who I watch 99% of the time.
Don't forget Local 10 , they have excellent coverage as well. Max Mayfield is there sometimes for "hurricane expert"
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908. BahaHurican 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Looks like they've dropped the first row of dropsondes [g-iv].
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909. patrikdude2 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
1003.3 mb
(~ 29.63 inHg)


Is this the lowest pressure they have found?
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910. GHOSTY1 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
i thought the BAMM BAMS and BAMD were about right with Don and Arlene, i dont know about Bret and Cindy because i just didn't care about them they were fish storms, but imo i thought they were pretty darn accurate.
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911. stormpetrol 8:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    


Think this track will pan out, personally I highly doubt it!
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912. PakaSurvivor 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Oh no! F5 key just broke! What a day and now I have to explain to the boss why in need a brand new computer! ;)
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913. ncstorm 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
they moved the pages up to the top of the page? thank you!
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914. SQUAWK 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting whepton3:


that's west... everything moves in 90 degree increments... 90 east, 180 south, 270 west.

Bum dope. I move at 45°.
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915. nrtiwlnvragn 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yup. Lol.

Personally, John Morales of NBC 6 is the most knowledgeable and most calm out of everyone in south Florida. That's who I watch 99% of the time.


Gasp.... you don't watch Max?
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916. angiest 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting msgambler:
Don't trust something that to this point has been almost spot on? How irresponsible!!!


Three key words in my post were "that," "far," and "out." In the short-term, they may be quite reliable, but based on the way those models work, they are probably overdoing the late term NW component.
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917. wunderkidcayman 8:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting angiest:


Don't trust the BAM's that far out. They are very simplistic and may not really know about the ridge.

oh yes they know about the ridge
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918. WxLogic 8:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Looks like they've dropped the first row of dropsondes [g-iv].


Indeed... now they're soon going to sample the area surrounding Emily.
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919. marknmelb 8:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:


Think this track will pan out, personally I highly doubt it!


Me either. I think further west and not as sharp a turn.
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920. atmoaggie 8:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Muifa double eyewalls evident on radar: Link

(The linked image will be updated continuously.)
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921. MiamiHurricanes09 8:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting patrikdude2:
Don't forget Local 10 , they have excellent coverage as well. Max Mayfield is there sometimes for "hurricane expert"
Very true, during times like now I tune in to see what he says.

But I still prefer John, lol, :P.

Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


Gasp.... you don't watch Max?
On occasion, LOL.
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922. atmoaggie 8:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting PakaSurvivor:
Oh no! F5 key just broke! What a day and now I have to explain to the boss why in need a brand new computer! ;)
Ctrl R works the same...
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923. HurricaneSwirl 8:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting hurricanejunky:
More clustering on FL again...


Yeah. In fact, when you look at it, most models that recurve it have it go over the Dominican Republic. Doesn't look like it's gonna landfall in the Dominican Republic right now..

From day one I said it was my gut feeling that this would recurve (but only after hitting the NE Caribbean first), so I'm rooting for that, but that might be in jeopardy.
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924. kmanislander 8:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Emily has been running along a fairly straight line due West for the past 8 hours and is about to pass a full degree South of the next point. In the absence of a hard right turn an updated track package to the left would appear to be in order.
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925. beell 8:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Thanks, Drak. We'll see if it is a good obs sooner or later, lol.

Wish Gonzo would make a couple of E-W passes along 20-25N.

geez i need a new keyboard...
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926. MississippiWx 8:47 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
The only way Emily takes the BAM model tracks is if she opens up into a wave soon. Considering she has a vigorous low level circulation at the time, that's probably not going to happen. If she opens up into a wave and heads into the Gulf, she would have even less favorable conditions to develop than now since she would be on the SE periphery of the death ridge. The SE portion of the ridge would cause subsidence, not to mention a sheared environment. The only way Emily becomes better than she is now is that if she splits the gap between Hispaniola/Cuba (or goes over Hispaniola briefly) and reorganizes on the other side.
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927. oreodogsghost 8:47 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Eugene is a monster

Statement as of 2:00 PM PDT on August 03, 2011
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...Eugene reaches category four intensity...


summary of 200 PM PDT...2100 UTC...information
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location...16.0n 115.4w
about 595 mi...960 km SW of the southern tip of Baja California
maximum sustained winds...140 mph...220 km/h
present movement...WNW or 290 degrees at 14 mph...22 km/h
minimum central pressure...942 mb...27.82 inches
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928. StormPro 8:47 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-ir2.ht ml

Anybody see the swirl in that blob in the BOC area? Is it a ULL?
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929. GHOSTY1 8:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
atmoaggie, ssssssssssshhhhhh, thats the idea she wants her boss to think it isn't usable so she can get a new computer or keyboard ;)
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930. hurricanejunky 8:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting GHOSTY1:
im starting to believe im gonna to put money in that it will go into the gulf like the BAMM BAMS BAMD say, it seems that the arlene and don liked heading to the gulf so why wouldnt emily?


They're not people, they're storms. They are influenced and steered by a complex combination of atmospheric conditions that change from day to day and week to week.
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931. CybrTeddy 8:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
EPAC just cranked out another Category 4 hurricane.
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932. stormpetrol 8:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Time: 20:38:30Z
Coordinates: 16.8667N 70.5333W
Acft. Static Air Press: 842.4 mb (~ 24.88 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 1,540 meters (~ 5,052 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1003.3 mb (~ 29.63 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 345° at 5 knots (From the NNW at ~ 5.8 mph)
Air Temp: 21.5°C (~ 70.7°F)
Dew Pt: 7.3°C (~ 45.1°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 7 knots (~ 8.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 16 knots* (~ 18.4 mph*)
SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr* (~ 0 in/hr*)
(*) Denotes suspect data

This could be latest fix not sure!
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933. Matt1989 8:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
what a fizzle year so far..
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935. PakaSurvivor 8:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
What and not get a new computer? No way I'm telling my boss that !
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936. AllStar17 8:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:
Emily has been running along a fairly straight line due West for the past 8 hours and is about to pass a full degree South of the next point. In the absence of a hard right turn an updated track package to the left would appear to be in order.


I agree.
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938. IceCoast 8:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
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939. Jedkins01 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting hurricanejunky:


They're not people, they're storms. They are influenced and steered by a complex combination of atmospheric conditions that change from day to day and week to week.


Sadly, it seems like some forget that lol
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940. stormpetrol 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:
Emily has been running along a fairly straight line due West for the past 8 hours and is about to pass a full degree South of the next point. In the absence of a hard right turn an updated track package to the left would appear to be in order.


I totally agree!
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941. Dakster 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Hey MH09 -0 How is everything going? I can't watch the local mets here, but I may try NBC6 and see if I can handle it. I usually get better info here anyways. Definetly, much faster.
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942. nrtiwlnvragn 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting beell:
Thanks, Drak. We'll see if it is a good obs sooner or later, lol.

Wish Gonzo would make a couple of E-W passes along 20-25N.

geez i need a new keyboard...


Just completed 25N







Edit: Orginally posted wrong graphic
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943. beell 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:
Emily has been running along a fairly straight line due West for the past 8 hours and is about to pass a full degree South of the next point. In the absence of a hard right turn an updated track package to the left would appear to be in order.


Some beta drift would appear to be all we got going on right now as far as any northward component to motion.
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944. trHUrrIXC5MMX 8:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Eugene the third cat 4 hurricane
very impressive
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945. GHOSTY1 8:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
stormpro i noticed it too but i think whatever it is it is to close to the coast to do anything major but good obervation.
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948. MiamiHurricanes09 8:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
Emily just wobbling around for the time being. No true movement between the last 3 center fixed.
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949. Seflhurricane 8:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
looks like a delayed advisory
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951. msgambler 8:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2011    
I don't trust any models. They are computers and subject to error. But the BAMM has done the BEST at this storm so far. For at least the last 2 days it has been correct on it's forcast projections. But maybe that is short term, not really sure what is short or long term. All others have had to be shifted to the left and south on every run. But as I said, I do not believe ANY model runs. I pay attention to sattelite pics, movement of storm, ect.. Like what they did in the "old days" before the models. What would some on here do without them. I think some would be totally lost.
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