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Dangerous Tropical Storm Irene headed for the Dominican Republic
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:38 PM GMT on August 21, 2011 +48
Tropical Storm Irene roared into life last night, transitioning from a tropical wave to a 50 mph tropical storm in just a few short hours. Irene is getting organized quickly, and has the potential to become a hurricane by Monday morning. All interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, the Bahamas, and South Florida should prepare for the arrival of this dangerous storm. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft in the storm found the strongest winds near 18°N latitude to the north of Irene's center at 8am this morning. After passing through the center, the plane returned to the area of strongest winds two hours later, and found that flight level winds at 5,000 feet had increased by about 5 - 8 mph. However, the pressure in the latest center fix taken at 10am EDT remained the same as two hours previously, 1007 mb, and the plane noted that Irene's center was not circular, signs that the storm still has some work to do before serious intensification can begin. Visible satellite loops and radar out of Martinique show the storm has rapidly organized this morning, with well-developed spiral bands forming and a large area of intense thunderstorms to the north of the center. Irene has shrugged off the dry air that was bothering it yesterday, and wind shear has fallen to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, as analyzed by the University of Wisconsin CIMSS group. Torrential rains and strong gusty winds are affecting the northern Lesser Antilles this morning. A wind gust of 41 mph was recorded at St. Eustatius at 8am local time.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Irene.

Track forecast for Irene
The computer models are in agreement that Irene will pass just south of Puerto Rico tonight, then hit the south coast of Hispaniola in the Dominican Republic or Haiti on Monday afternoon. Irene should then emerge into the channel between Haiti and Cuba on Tuesday afternoon, when the storm will have 12 or so hours over water before having to contend with Cuba. A trough of low pressure is expected to move across the Eastern U.S. on Wednesday and Thursday, turning Irene to the northwest and north by Thursday. The timing and strength of this trough varies considerably from model to model, and will be critical in determining where and when Irene will turn to the north. Irene's strength will also matter--a stronger Irene is more likely to turn northward earlier. The most likely path for Irene is a track just east of the Florida Peninsula and into Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina by next weekend, but a landfall near Miami then directly up the Florida Peninsula is also a reasonable solution--like Tropical Storm Fay of 2008 did. Fay formed just off the coast of Puerto Rico, and was never quite able to get organized enough to become a hurricane, due to passage over Hispaniola and Cuba. Fay topped out as a strong tropical storm with 70 mph winds, and did over $500 million in damage in the U.S., mostly due to flooding rains in Florida that accumulated to over 25 inches in a few areas. Fay also dumped heavy rains on Hispaniola, triggering flooding that claimed eight lives.


Figure 2. Track of Tropical Storm Fay of 2008.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene is embedded in a large envelope of moisture now, and wind shear will remain low, 5 - 10 knots, for the next five days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification except when land is interfering. Irene's current appearance on satellite loops gives me the impression of a storm that is not fooling around, and I expect Irene will be a hurricane before hitting Hispaniola on Monday. Passage over Hispaniola will not destroy Irene, since it is a fairly large storm. Once the storm finishes with Hispaniola, it will have to deal with Cuba, which will keep Irene from intensifying significantly. Once Irene pops off the coast of Cuba Wednesday or Thursday into the Florida Straits, Irene will likely be a tropical storm. If the storm then has at least a day over water before hitting land, it will likely become a hurricane again, and could become a major hurricane if it ends up missing South Florida and moving over the warm waters on either side of the Florida Peninsula.

Harvey hits Belize
Tropical Storm Harvey made landfall at 2pm EDT on Saturday near Dangriga Town, Belize, as a tropical storm with 60 mph winds. Harvey continues to dump very heavy rains on southern Mexico, but dissipation is expected tonight as the storm pushes inland. Harvey was a small storm, and the strongest winds were confined to a short stretch of coast near where the center came ashore. Winds at Belize City, Belize on Saturday topped out at 15 mph.


Figure 3. Radar image of Harvey taken at 11:30am EDT on Saturday, August 20, 2011, a few hours before landfall in Belize. A small closed eye is visible just south of the offshore islands of Belize. Image credit: Belize National Meteorological Service.

Invest 98L northwest of the Cape Verde Islands
A tropical wave few hundred miles northwest of the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa, Invest 98L, has become disorganized and lost most of its heavy thunderstorms. The disturbance is moving over colder waters and encountering drier air, and NHC is giving 98L only a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. The latest set of model runs keep 98L well out to sea away from any land areas over the next five days.

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2501. stormwatcherCI 8:44 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
HARVEY EMERGES OVER THE SOUTHERN BAY OF CAMPECHE...TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO...
4:00 PM CDT Sun Aug 21
Location: 18.6°N 93.8°W
Max sustained: 30 mph
Moving: WNW at 14 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb


Wonder if he will reorganize and head for Texas.
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2502. WeatherCaneFF1331 8:44 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting cat6band:
I know nothing about weather or the tropics...I find it absolutely amazing though....To my untrained eye...this storm is moving west...that's all I can go by, and looking at the radar you guys have posted...there is no northern component to that movement..JMO..Thanks!



i have to agree with you there on PR radar it looks ike its moveing DUE WEST
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2503. WeatherNerdPR 8:44 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:
5 PM ADVISORY

...HARVEY EMERGES OVER THE SOUTHERN BAY OF CAMPECHE...TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO...

well just what I thought he would do

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2504. washingtonian115 8:44 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting cycleranger:



Looks like most of the heaviest rainfall is North and East of Puerto Rico.

Irene is censored.Is she running around in her birthday suit?
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2505. islander101010 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
serialtag looks like the worst of the cyclone will be going right over you hunker down and let us know whats happening
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2506. HurricaneDean07 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
LOL,
Harvey still alive... 30 Mph 1007 MB And still not final advisory on him...
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2507. PRweathercenter 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Virgin Islands are reporting a 1003mb pressure as Irene's center nears, with 30-40kt winds out of the northeast.
Levi is that St. Croix?
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2508. NCHurricane2009 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


What you're seeing on RGB is more mid-level. Radar is the best tool we have right now to figure out where a center is located. It's much better than any visible or infrared at this point.


Yep...when the storm gets closer to the radar...the radar sees what's going on at the storm base better than anything else....

...on the other hand...if radar far from the storm...it tends to see what is going on higher up than at the surface...but now since Irene closing in on radar position...this is not the case...
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2509. WeatherNerdPR 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
...CENTER OF IRENE NEAR ST. CROIX...
5:00 PM AST Sun Aug 21
Location: 17.7°N 64.4°W
Max sustained: 50 mph
Moving: WNW at 17 mph
Min pressure: 999 mb
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2510. scott39 8:45 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting mynameispaul:


Yes, it can be frustrating if you really need information but I always take my local authorities advice first and foremost. I've been thru probably a dozen TS's and Hurricanes in my life and your locals are the best to listen to.
Same here, i just got a call from my Dad,and he said, "I looked at the WU site you told me about, and some of those people seem excited about its coming to them". I said no Dad...they just love tracking hurricanes. LOL
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2511. TropicalAnalystwx13 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
WNW..

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM IRENE ADVISORY NUMBER 5
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
500 PM AST SUN AUG 21 2011

...CENTER OF IRENE NEAR ST. CROIX...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.7N 64.4W
ABOUT 25 MI...40 KM E OF ST. CROIX
ABOUT 120 MI...195 KM ESE OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...999 MB...29.50 INCHES
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2512. SouthDadeNative 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting WeatherCaneFF1331:



i have to agree with you there on PR radar it looks ike its moveing DUE WEST


West
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2514. Levi32 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Levi! Radar! COC?


Based on echo drifts and surface obs, I believe it is somewhere here:

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2515. UKHWatcher 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
HARVEY's remnant's getting dragged Northward to feed EMILY... She's hungry!!!
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2516. HurricaneDean07 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
...CENTER OF IRENE NEAR ST. CROIX...
------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------

5:00 PM AST Sun Aug 21
Location: 17.7°N 64.4°W
Max sustained: 50 mph
Moving: WNW at 17 mph
Min pressure: 999 mb

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2517. NCHurricane2009 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:



Ugh...Harvey is so annoying...for some reason its getting on my nerves...LOL
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2518. cchsweatherman 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Tropical Storm Irene seems to be steadily improving now as the beginnings of an eye wall possibly forming are evident in Puerto Rico radar.

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2519. 954FtLCane 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:


Longer loops show an overall WNW movement.


she's heading west now and in fact a bit of southwest wobble took place. at this rate she will either pass just south or skirt the south coast of PR
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2521. PRweathercenter 8:46 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
WTNT34 KNHC 212044
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM IRENE ADVISORY NUMBER 5
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
500 PM AST SUN AUG 21 2011

...CENTER OF IRENE NEAR ST. CROIX...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.7N 64.4W
ABOUT 25 MI...40 KM E OF ST. CROIX
ABOUT 120 MI...195 KM ESE OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...999 MB...29.50 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC HAS CHANGED THE TROPICAL
STORM WARNING TO A HURRICANE WARNING FOR THE NORTHERN COAST OF THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM CABO FRANCES VIEJO TO THE BORDER WITH
HAITI.

THE GOVERNMENT OF CURACAO HAS DISCONTINUED THE TROPICAL STORM
WARNING FOR ST. MAARTIN...SABA...AND ST. EUSTATIUS.


SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* PUERTO RICO...VIEQUES...AND CULEBRA
* THE ENTIRE COASTLINE OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS
* BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS
* HAITI

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA IN THE UNITED
STATES...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
FORECAST OFFICE. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA OUTSIDE
THE UNITED STATES...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR NATIONAL
METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM IRENE WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 17.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 64.4 WEST. IRENE IS
MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 17 MPH...28 KM/H...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS WITH A
FURTHER SLOWING IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THE FORECAST TRACK THE CENTER
OF IRENE WILL BE MOVING NEAR OR OVER PUERTO RICO TONIGHT AND NEAR
OR OVER THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ON MONDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST AND IRENE IS EXPECTED TO BE NEAR
HURRICANE INTENSITY ON MONDAY. WEAKENING IS LIKELY LATER ON MONDAY
AS THE CENTER MOVES NEAR OR OVER THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 150 MILES...240 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 999 MB...29.50 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS
AND PUERTO RICO INCLUDING CULEBRA AND VIEQUES THIS EVENING...AND IN
THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC EARLY MONDAY. HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED OVER PUERTO RICO INCLUDING VIEQUES AND CULEBRA
TONIGHT...AND OVER THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ON MONDAY. THE HIGHEST
WINDS ARE LIKELY TO OCCUR OVER AREAS OF ELEVATED TERRAIN.

RAINFALL...IRENE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS
OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ACROSS PUERTO RICO...THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC...HAITI...THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND THE TURKS
AND CAICOS ISLANDS. ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF UP TO 20 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH
FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES IN AREAS OF STEEP TERRAIN. ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL OF 2 TO 4 INCHES IS POSSIBLE OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS.

STORM SURGE...A STORM SURGE WILL RAISE WATER LEVELS BY AS MUCH AS 3
TO 5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS ALONG THE COAST OF THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA. A STORM SURGE OF 1 TO 3
FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS IS EXPECTED ALONG THE COAST OF PUERTO
RICO...AS WELL AS IN THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING AREA. NEAR THE
COAST...THE SURGE WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE AND DANGEROUS WAVES.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
NEXT INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY...800 PM AST.
NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...1100 PM AST.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH

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2522. washingtonian115 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
LOL,
Harvey still alive... 30 Mph 1007 MB And still not final advisory on him...
He said he wants to make his tropical cyclone days last.
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2523. ncstorm 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
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2524. Bretts9112 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
I agree with the new track
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2525. NCHurricane2009 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
HARVEY EMERGES OVER THE SOUTHERN BAY OF CAMPECHE...TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO...
4:00 PM CDT Sun Aug 21
Location: 18.6°N 93.8°W
Max sustained: 30 mph
Moving: WNW at 14 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb


Wonder if he will reorganize and head for Texas.


Unfortunately (for drought resaons in Texas)...this won't happen..stiff steering to keep Harvey west-northwest...
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2526. Bluestorm5 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
NHC is not buying tracks to SC...
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2527. floodaintcovered 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting P451:


Emily followed XTRP for like three days LOL.

It is bar none my favorite not-a-model model.

If models have a gender, XTRP is male, while all the other models are female.

XTRP is quick, decisive, and never wavering.

You have to admire something of that stature.

XTRP is a model's model, an Adonis if you will.


XTRP is the Chuck Norris of not-a-model models.
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2529. WeatherNerdPR 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
TROPICAL STORM IRENE DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
500 PM AST SUN AUG 21 2011

IRENE IS GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED IN ITS APPEARANCE ON
SATELLITE IMAGES...WITH CURVED BANDS BECOMING BETTER DEFINED. THE
CURRENT INTENSITY IS HELD AT 45 KT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OBSERVATIONS
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTERS.
ANOTHER HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE IRENE
AROUND 0000 UTC. WITH A WELL-DEFINED UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW
ANTICYCLONE SITUATED OVER THE STORM...THE PRIMARY IMPEDIMENT TO
STRENGTHENING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS SHOULD BE LAND
INTERACTION. IF IRENE MOVES OVER MORE OF HISPANIOLA OR OVER PARTS
OF EASTERN CUBA IT WILL LIKELY BE WEAKER THAN INDICATED
HERE...HOWEVER IF THE SYSTEM ENDS UP MOVING TO THE NORTH OF BOTH OF
THOSE LAND MASSES IT COULD STRENGTHEN MORE THAN EXPECTED. THE
OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS SOMEWHAT HIGHER THAN THE LATEST LGEM
STATISTICAL-DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE.

THE FORWARD MOTION HAS SLOWED A BIT AND IS NOW NEAR 285/15. IRENE
CONTINUES TO BE STEERED BY THE FLOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A
MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. THE
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE FOR 1 TO 2 DAYS
WHICH WOULD BRING THE CENTER NEAR OR OVER PUERTO RICO...AND NEAR OR
OVER THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...A COUPLE OF
TROUGHS ARE FORECAST TO CREATE A WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE NEAR THE
SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST WHICH SHOULD INDUCE A TURN TO THE RIGHT AROUND
DAY 3. SEVERAL OF THE RELIABLE TRACK GUIDANCE MODELS SUCH AS THE
ECMWF AND GFS HAVE SHIFTED EASTWARD FROM THEIR PREVIOUS RUNS AND SO
HAS THE DYNAMICAL CONSENSUS. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST HAS BEEN
SHIFTED A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY
AND LIES ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE. IT IS
IMPORTANT NOT TO FOCUS ON THE EXACT FORECAST TRACK...ESPECIALLY AT
DAYS 4 TO 5 SINCE THE MOST RECENT 5-YEAR AVERAGE ERRORS AT THOSE
FORECAST TIMES ARE 200 AND 250 MILES RESPECTIVELY.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 21/2100Z 17.7N 64.4W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 22/0600Z 18.2N 66.6W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND
24H 22/1800Z 18.9N 69.3W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND
36H 23/0600Z 19.6N 71.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND
48H 23/1800Z 20.3N 73.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER WATER
72H 24/1800Z 22.7N 76.7W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 25/1800Z 25.5N 79.5W 75 KT 85 MPH
120H 26/1800Z 28.5N 81.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND

$$
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2530. breald 8:47 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting lucreto:


Not to lessen your experience but Fran was in reality only a Cat.1 imagine a stronger storm


Fran was a cat 3 when it made landfall in NC.
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2533. tcbob8794 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
HARVEY LIVES! Why am I not surprised?
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2535. Levi32 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
The current motion should take Irene over a portion of Puerto Rico and then the northern part of the Dominican Republic.
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2536. Abacosurf 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Based on echo drifts and surface obs, I believe it is somewhere here:

Yup.

Just ESE of St. Croix.

As a few were saying.
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2537. CaicosRetiredSailor 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Still

9-0-0
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2538. WeatherNerdPR 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
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2540. RickWPB 8:48 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Well the cone shifted a bit east. Now instead of aiming at Miami, it's centered on West Palm Beach!

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2542. Misogynist 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
The storm appears to have a lot of energy. Hopefully it runs into everything out there.
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2543. MississippiWx 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
At 17.7N, the center is exactly where radar shows it.
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2545. NICycloneChaser 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Based on echo drifts and surface obs, I believe it is somewhere here:



Levi, the immortal question:

Is that trying to be an eyewall?
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2546. stormpetrol 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
well I was close NHC 17.7N/64.4W , i said 17.5N/64.5W, thats roughly 12 miles off lat and 6 miles off long.
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2547. NCHurricane2009 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
See...even the NHC 5 PM advisory says moving WNW...definitely WNW it is....
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2548. TropicalAnalystwx13 8:49 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Cone still needs to be shifted east..
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2549. WxLogic 8:50 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
I agree with this shift... a gradual and not as sharp as some models are forecasting.

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2550. ackee 8:50 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Now that the eye has closed off it appears ST.Croix is dead center of the eye, but I still think it basically moving due west , 275 degrees at most, jmo.
do u see the centre south of PR or EAST
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2551. shawn26 8:50 PM GMT on August 21, 2011    
not much of a shift considering all of the model shift
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