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TD 14 likely to become Maria; new Gulf of Mexico system brewing
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:32 PM GMT on September 07, 2011 +24
Tropical Depression Fourteen formed yesterday from a strong tropical wave that moved off the coast of Africa early this week, and is headed west-northwest towards an encounter with the Northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Satellite loops show a large a steadily organizing system with plenty of heavy thunderstorm activity, good upper-level outflow to the north and west, and some respectable low-level spiral bands beginning to form. TD 14 is probably a tropical storm now, and is very likely to be named Tropical Storm Maria later today. Water vapor satellite images show that 95L is embedded in a very moist environment. Ocean temperatures are near 28.5°C, which is 2°C above the 26.5°C threshold usually needed to sustain a tropical storm. With wind shear predicted to remain low to moderate the next five days, the atmosphere expected to stay moist, and ocean temperatures predicted to gradually warm, TD 14 should generally show a strengthening trend. Curiously, most of the intensity forecast models show little strengthening of TD 14, so NHC is keeping their intensity forecast lower than is typical for a storm in these conditions at this time of year.

The track forecasts for TD 14 from the various models agree that the storm will affect the Northern Lesser Antilles Islands, though there are some differences in forward speed, resulting in some uncertainty whether the storm will arrive at the islands as early as Friday night, or as late as Saturday afternoon. After it passes the Lesser Antilles, TD 14 has the usual amount of high uncertainty in its 5 - 7 day track forecast. The models are split on how strong the steering influence a trough of low pressure along the U.S. East Coast will have. The ECMWF and UKMET models prefer a more southerly track for TD 14 through the Bahamas towards the U.S. East Coast, while the GFS, NOGAPS, and HWRF models predict a more northwesterly track, with a potential threat to Bermuda. It's too early to guess which track the models will eventually converge on. Climatology favors a track that would miss land, with Dr. Bob Hart's track history pages suggesting TD 14 has a 22% chance of hitting Canada, 19% chance of hitting Bermuda, and an 11% chance of hitting North Carolina.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of TD 14.

Gulf of Mexico disturbance 96L
A cold front swept into the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Texas behind Tropical Storm Lee on Monday, and has stalled out along a line from Tampa, Florida to Mexico's Bay of Campeche in the southern Gulf of Mexico. Heavy thunderstorms have begun to build along the tail end of this front in the Bay of Campeche, and this disturbance has been designated Invest 96L by NHC. Latest visible satellite loops do not show that 96L has a closed surface circulation yet, but buoy and surface observations along the coast of Mexico suggest that there may be a large-scale counter-clockwise circulation present over the Bay of Campeche. Sustained winds at Buoy 42055, about 100 miles to the northwest of the suspected center of 96L, were northeast at 27 mph at 6:50 am CDT this morning. Water vapor satellite loops show that here is a large area of very dry air from Texas to the north of 96L, and this dry air may interfere with 96L's development. A hurricane hunter mission is scheduled for this afternoon into 96L.

Most of the computer models develop 96L into a tropical depression in the next 1 - 2 days, and these same models did very well at anticipating the formation of Tropical Storm Lee in the Gulf of Mexico last week. Given the moderate wind shear, warm waters, and presence of an old cold front to serve as a nucleus for development, I give 96L an 80% chance of becoming a tropical depression over the next tow days, a bit higher than the 60% probability NHC is going with. Steering currents are weak in the Bay of Campeche, making for a lot of uncertainty in where 96L might go. The only model predicting a U.S. landfall is the ECMWF, which predicts 96L might hit between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle on Monday. A more popular solution is for the storm to meander in the Bay of Campeche for many days, and eventually make landfall on the coast of Mexico between Veracruz and Tampico. None of the models is hinting at a track towards Texas, and the intense dome of high pressure associated with their record drought and heat wave will tend to discourage any tropical cyclones from making a Texas landfall over the coming seven days.

Hurricane Katia
Hurricane Katia continues to the northwest as a Category 1 hurricane with 90 mph winds. Latest satellite loops show that dry air has eaten into the southwest side of the storm. The computer models continue to agree that a low pressure system over the Eastern U.S. associated with the remnants of Tropical Storm Lee will turn Katia to the north. As the storm moves northwards past North Carolina, Katia will get caught up in west-to-east moving winds associated with the jet stream, and taken northeastwards out to sea. No land areas are in Katia's cone of uncertainty, and Katia's outer rainbands should remain just offshore from North Carolina, New England, and the Canadian Maritime provinces at the point of closest approach. Bermuda may see a few rain showers from Katia, but the storm will not cause hazardous weather there. The main impact of Katia will be a multi-day period of high surf leading to beach erosion and dangerous rip currents. The East Coast is lucky that Tropical Storm Lee came along, since Lee helped to create the steering pattern that will keep Katia from hitting the U.S.


Figure 2. GOES-13 image of Hurricane Katia and the remains of Tropical Storm Lee, taken at 11:45 am EDT Tuesday September 6, 2011. At the time, Katia was a Category 3 hurricane with 120 mph winds. Image credit: NOAA Visualization Laboratory.

Heavy rains from Lee create significant flooding, tornadoes
Tropical Storm Lee is no more, but its remnants are marching slowly northeastwards along a stalled cold front, bringing torrential rains. Fortunately, the dry soils that were present before the event started have helped keep river flooding in the minor to moderate range. No river is currently at major flood stage as a result of rains from Tropical Storm Lee. Soils are at near-average moisture levels in Central Pennsylvania, where Lee's remnants are expected to drop 3 - 5 inches of rain over the next two days. These rains should cause moderate but not major flooding in Pennsylvania. Also of concern is the potential for tornadoes today. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC) has logged 40 tornado reports over the past four days from Lee, including two in North Carolina yesterday. Most of these tornadoes have been weak EF-0 and EF-1 twisters. A tornado that hit Cana, Virginia at Sunday night ripped the roof off of a gas station and injured two people. More tornadoes are likely today over coastal Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Southern New Jersey, where SPC is predicting a "Slight Risk" of severe weather.

Lee's heaviest rain amounts, by state, as of 4 am CDT today:

Holden, LA: 15.43"
Waveland, MS: 14.11"
Fyffe, AL: 12.94"
Cleveland, TN: 12.22"
Rome, GA: 11.01"
Milton, FL: 10.03"
Blowing Rock, NC: 7.18"
Fancy Gap, VA: 6.77"
Cranks Creek Reservoir, KY: 5.49"
Andover, NJ: 5.06"
Montgomery, NY: 4.23"
Pittsfield, MA: 3.90"
Bluefield, WV: 3.76"
Bridge City, TX: 3.12"
Keene, NH: 3.64"
Hagerstown, MD: 3.60"
Norwalk, CT: 3.20"
Wilmington, DE: 2.63"
Woodford, VT: 2.63"
Washington, DC: 2.42"

Jeff Masters
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651. TropicalAnalystwx13 7:59 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
Huh?
Wouldn't it have been more accurate reporting to say that we have TS NATE now, and the NHC will start issuing advisories shortly.
If they don't have somebody monitoring ATCF, then what kind of authority are they?


Very few meteorological organization know about ATCF.
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652. CybrTeddy 7:59 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
At this rate, we're probably going to see Greek letters this year, maybe as far down the list as to Gamma in late November or early December.
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653. Bluestorm5 7:59 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting wunderweatherman123:
looks like maria is going out to sea :P
NHC is pretty good with 3 days forecast and their cone is narrower so they seem to be pretty sure it'll hit PR.
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654. RitaEvac 8:00 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting P451:


The NAM was the one model that spun the system up rapidly.

Figures, the non tropical model nails it. LOL


Look how quickly it's trying to wrap around the center.



Makes me wonder if this is the storm it was confusing itself with when showing Lee going back south into the Gulf
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655. DFWjc 8:00 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting justalurker:
Texas you still have time for your rain dance !!



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656. MiamiHurricanes09 8:01 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Yo, you got me this time...96L developed wayyyy quicker than I anticipated. Would have never thought that a 45mph Nate would be present 24 hours after the blog entry.
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657. RitaEvac 8:01 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting FtMyersgal:

RitaEvac I will keep my fingers crossed for Nate to visit Mexico. That way Texas will be on the right side of the storm and hopefully you will get some of that much needed rain


Northern tip is best way
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658. Jax82 8:01 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
I think Nate is going to have a lot of Northcasters, certaintly not westcasters, Mehico doesnt need another storm.
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660. IcemanMC 8:02 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Is it me or did this board just spin up after the 96L flight info? Interesting to see where the models predict him to go, now that they have good data to input.
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661. DontAnnoyMe 8:02 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
What about Atlantic?


Humberto/Ingrid, 9/12/07

and

Karen/Lorenzo 9/25/07

Link

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662. MississippiWx 8:02 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
20.1N 92.9W

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663. DFWjc 8:02 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting Jax82:
I think Nate is going to have a lot of Northcasters, certaintly not westcasters, Mehico doesnt need another storm.


nah, just Texascasters... :)
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664. CaribBoy 8:03 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Troll warning issued
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665. tropicfreak 8:03 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting wunderweatherman123:
looks like maria is going out to sea :P


Too early, if her COC is ahead of the convection that would mean a weaker storm, further west.
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666. RitaEvac 8:03 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
NNW movement all the way to home base would be perfect....
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667. FtMyersgal 8:04 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:


Northern tip is best way

Hope so! Go wash your car LOL
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669. nrtiwlnvragn 8:04 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
Huh?
Wouldn't it have been more accurate reporting to say that we have TS NATE now, and the NHC will start issuing advisories shortly.
If they don't have somebody monitoring ATCF, then what kind of authority are they?


There is a disclaimer in the ATCF system:

Users are also cautioned that the data in these files are subject to frequent revisions and can differ from information issued in official NHC products.


So it is not "official" untill it is on the NHC HTML website.
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670. TropicalAnalystwx13 8:04 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yo, you got me this time...96L developed wayyyy quicker than I anticipated. Would have never thought that a 45mph Nate would be present 24 hours after the blog entry.


Yeah, you better admit it, LOL.
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671. islander101010 8:05 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
wat
Quoting RitaEvac:
NNW movement all the way to home base would be perfect....
could get serious on that course might be the only way to get into the dryness
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672. CaribBoy 8:05 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Pretty Maria comes at me
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675. 7544 8:06 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
could somthing be about to pop up to the east of nate all that conv is going east to fla from the gom could this be confusing modeles where nate will go west to mex and the new east side develops and heads e east or ne could this happen as a nother invest or low pres system tia
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676. MississippiWx 8:06 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
A decent band is beginning to setup over the Yucatan Peninsula:

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677. RitaEvac 8:07 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
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679. MississippiWx 8:08 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting P451:
Look at it just sucking in all the moisture it can from all around (particularly evident to the north). This thing is headed Hurricane in a hurry I think. Just look at it. This is 3.5 hours....







It's amazing to me how there are bands to the north and northwest of Nate...in the dry air.
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680. hurristat 8:08 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
The ensemble doesn't have a clue what to do with 96L/15L/Nate, do they?

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681. snotly 8:08 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
school's out.
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683. TropicTraveler 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Am I wrong or is the Center of Circulation in open water with the cloud buildups over land?? It does look like a rain band over land over the Yucatan. Looks like nothing I've seen before. Amazing shot with the clouds spinning up in 3.5 hours.
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684. ncstorm 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
I see the EURO has moved west with Maria in regards to NC..only time will tell..
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685. RitaEvac 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
It has been stoned into us to death that this system in no way is coming to TX, it'll either go NE or into Mexico, that is what local mets have said all along
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686. Tazmanian 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting snotly:
school's out.



run for the hills
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687. TropicalAnalystwx13 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting snotly:
school's out.


Yeah...for like an hour...
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689. DookiePBC 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Holy cats did it just get dark here in Deerfield Beach!!
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690. earthlydragonfly 8:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting P451:


It'll be 60mph in no time.

Not one person thought this would spin up the way it did the last 3.5 hours. Only liars would claim they did.




I did


'nt
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691. GTcooliebai 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:
So how come Bret was never retired?
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692. CybrTeddy 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Note: I have stopped doing tropical weather updates due to scheduling conflicts.

Also, the geographical shape of the Bay of Campeche favors a rapid spinup of Nate into a stronger system. We witnessed this with Karl last year.
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693. reedzone 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting P451:
Look at it just sucking in all the moisture it can from all around (particularly evident to the north). This thing is headed Hurricane in a hurry I think. Just look at it. This is 3.5 hours....







Most BOC systems spin up fast..
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694. RitaEvac 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
So how come Bret was never retired?


hit a cow pasture
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695. weathers4me 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
It looks like two pieces of energy coming off Nate. One going to MX and the other toward FL. Agree totally.
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696. tropicfreak 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


It's amazing to me how there are bands to the north and northwest of Nate...in the dry air.


And that dry air to the north is the driest I've ever seen, boy is Nate ready to take off or what!
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697. TropicalAnalystwx13 8:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting P451:


It'll be 60mph in no time.

Not one person thought this would spin up the way it did the last 3.5 hours. Only liars would claim they did.



IMO...

TS: Well...It is already one, LOL.

Hurricane: 80% chance (may rise or lower)

Major hurricane: 40% chance (may rise or lower)
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698. Tazmanian 8:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Note: I have stopped doing tropical weather updates due to scheduling conflicts.

Also, the geographical shape of the Bay of Campeche favors a rapid spinup of Nate into a stronger system. We witnessed this with Karl last year.



yup and i was here
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699. WxLogic 8:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
Don't let your guard down with the P22L still has a decent spin at 850MB and 700MB:

850MB:



700MB:



Should be under better upper level conditions as it exits the large circulation of Katia in 24 to 36HR. The main issue would be its proximity to land.
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700. ncstorm 8:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2011    
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