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Nate almost a hurricane; Maria remains disorganized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 9:05 PM GMT on September 08, 2011 +23
An Air Force Reserve hurricane hunter aircraft is in Tropical Storm Nate, and has found winds much stronger than the storm's satellite appearance would suggest. At 2:17 pm EDT, the aircraft measured winds at their flight level of 1500 feet of 93 mph, which would ordinarily support upgrading Nate to a Category 1 hurricane. Surface winds measured by the SFMR instrument were about 70 mph, suggesting that Nate is indeed very close to hurricane strength. However, latest visible satellite loops show that if Nate is a hurricane, it's only half of a hurricane. Nate's low-level center is exposed to view, due to northeasterly upper-level winds that are creating a moderate 10 knots of wind shear. This shear is keeping all of Nate's heavy thunderstorms pushed to the south side of the center, and the northern half of the storm almost cloud-free. Sustained winds at Buoy 42055, about 140 miles to the northwest of the center of Nate, were just 28 mph at 3:50 pm EDT this afternoon. Water vapor satellite loops show that there is a large area of very dry air from Texas to the north of Nate, and this dry air is keeping the northern half of the storm dry.

Nate will meander in the Bay of Campeche for several days, and the computer models are sharply divided on what happens early next week to the storm. A ridge of high pressure is expected to build in to the north of the storm, potentially forcing it westwards to a landfall in Mexico. However, our two best-performing models last year, the GFS and ECMWF, predict that a weak trough of low pressure expected to move across the U.S. early next week will be strong enough to turn Nate northwards towards an eventual landfall along the northern Gulf Coast. We will have to wait until the NOAA jet makes its first mission to sample the steering currents in the Gulf of Mexico to get a better idea on how probable this northern path might be; their first flight will be tonight, and the data will make it into the 8 pm models runs that will be available first thing Friday morning. As far as intensity goes, the very dry air to Nate's north should begin being less of a problem for it by Friday, when the upper level winds shift more to blow from the southeast, and the shear drops to the low range, 5 - 10 knots. Since the storm is moving very slowly, it will upwell cooler waters from the depths that will slow intensification, though.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of Nate.

Tropical Storm Maria
Tropical Storm Maria barely survived as a tropical storm today, but is now making a bit of a comeback. Satellite loops show that Maria has been badly ripped up by the 10 - 20 knots of wind shear affecting it. The low-level center has been exposed to view most of the day, and surface arc-shaped clouds have been racing away from the storm to the west this afternoon, indicating that dry air has been getting into Maria's thunderstorms and disrupting the storm. However, the areal coverage and intensity of Maria's thunderstorms have increased a little in the past two hours. Maria is passing close to buoy 41040, which measured sustained winds of 36 mph, gusting to 45 mph, at 2:50 pm EDT.

Wind shear is predicted to fall to the low range on Friday as Maria approaches the Lesser Antilles. In addition, as I noted in this morning's post, Maria will be encountering an atmospheric disturbance known as a Convectively-Coupled Kelvin Wave (CCKW) that is currently passing through the Lesser Antilles Islands. There is a great deal of upward-moving air in the vicinity of a CCKW, and will help strengthen the updrafts in Maria's thunderstorms, potentially intensifying the storm. None of our models are detailed enough to "see" CCKWs", so we may see more intensification of the storm than the models are calling for. I believe Maria will continue to organize and arrive in the Lesser Antilles Islands as a tropical storm with 50 - 60 mph winds. The latest run of the GFDL model predicts that Maria will be a Category 1 hurricane on Saturday afternoon when it moves through the Virgin Islands, and a Category 2 hurricane Sunday night when it moves through the Turks and Caicos Islands. This is on the high end of what is possible, and I think it more likely that Maria will be a tropical storm with 50 - 60 mph winds in the northern Lesser Antilles, 60 - 70 mph winds in the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, and a Category 1 hurricane in the Turks and Caicos Islands--assuming passage over Puerto Rico and the eastern tip of the Dominican Republic does not significantly disrupt the storm. A lower intensity, as forecast by NHC, is certainly quite possible, as Maria may continue to struggle with the dry air and wind shear besetting it.

The latest computer model runs have been trending more southwards, and the Northern Lesser Antilles, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the Bahama Islands are all at high risk of a direct hit by Maria. The models are split on how strong the steering influence a trough of low pressure along the U.S. East Coast will have once Maria approaches the U.S. East Coast. Most of the models foresee that Maria will turn north before arriving at Florida, and potentially threaten North Carolina, Bermuda, or Canada. The latest run of the GFDL model, though, brings Maria through the Bahamas to a point just 100 miles southeast of Miami as a hurricane on Tuesday afternoon. While this forecast is an outlier, and it is more likely that Maria will turn north before reaching Florida, it will be another two days before we will have a fair degree of confidence on when Maria will curve to the north.

Lee's rains trigger historic flooding in New York and Pennsylvania
An extreme rainfall event unprecedented in recorded history has hit the Binghamton, New York area, where 7.49" of rain fell yesterday. This is the second year in a row Binghamton has recorded a greater than 1-in-100 year rain event; their previous all-time record was set last September, when 4.68" fell on Sep 30 - Oct. 1, 2010. Binghamton has also already broken its record for rainiest year in its history. Records go back to 1890 in the city. The rain has ended in Binghamton, with this morning's rain bringing the city's total rainfall for the 40-hour event to 9.02". The Susquehanna River at Binghamton has risen to 25.69', its highest level since records began in 1847, and is now spilling over the flood walls protecting the city, according to media reports. In Hershey, Pennsylvania, Swatara Creek is 19' over flood stage, and more than 9' above its record flood crest. Widespread flash flooding is occurring across the entire area, and over 120,000 people have been evacuated from their homes.


Figure 2. Seven-day precipitation amounts from Tropical Storm Lee and its remnants. Image credit: NOAA/AHPS.


Figure 3. The Susquehanna River at Binghamton has crested this afternoon at its highest flood height on record, 25.69'. Records at this gauge go back to 1847. Image credit: NOAA/AHPS.


Figure 4. In Hershey, Pennsylvania, Swatara Creek is 19' over flood stage, and more than 9' above its previous record flood crest. The river is forecast to crest at 27.2' (green lines are the predictions.) Records at this gage go back to 1930. Image credit: NOAA/AHPS.

The extreme rains are due the the remains of Tropical Storm Lee interacting with a stationary front draped along the Eastern U.S. Adding to the potent moisture mix last night was a stream of tropical moisture associated with Hurricane Katia that collided with the stationary front. You don't often see a major city break its all-time 24-hour precipitation record by a 60% margin, according to wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, and he can't recall ever seeing it happen before. It's worth noting that the Susquehanna River Binghamton stream gage, which has been in operation since 1847, is due to be shut off in 3 weeks due to budget cuts. Here's the note at the USGS web site:

NOTICE (03/23/2011)--Data collection at this streamgage may be discontinued after October 1, 2011 due to funding reductions from partner agencies. Although historic data will remain accessible, no new data will be collected unless one or more new funding partners are found. Users who are willing to contribute funding to continue operation of this streamgage should contact Rob Breault or Ward Freeman of the USGS New York Water Science Center at 518-285-5658 or dc_ny@usgs.gov.

I'll have an update in the morning.

Jeff Masters
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551. Patrap 12:02 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting bappit:
I saw an interesting paper via a link posted on Wunderground a year or so ago that discussed how a strong tropical cyclone will set up currents that continue to mix ocean water vertically after the storm has departed. In a case study it showed surface water decreasing in temperature after a hurricane had moved on to somewhere else. Wish I had that link. Did Patrap post that?


Im off duty so you'll have to google "patrap, upwelling ,wunderground" and get lucky.


The other Visual Monitor with da Flat Screen is calling
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552. bappit 12:02 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


And how come Pluto can't talk but Goofy can?

Pluto is just a dog. Goofy is a character.
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554. JNCali 12:03 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    

Quoting presslord:


I am delighted to see you have risen!!!!
just please avoid hanging out with young weathermen in hot tubs!
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555. Dakster 12:03 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Have any purple hippo's been sighted in San Diego?


You know, where is NRAAMY???

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556. hurricanehunter27 12:04 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting weatherh98:


I like that I'll go saints 38 packers 31 you do realize that that score isn't possible though
All scores are possible in football except 1.
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557. PcolaDan 12:04 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


Beat it chickendan.

Dewey is replacing you with a new dan anyway.

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558. Grothar 12:04 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting HCW:


Leo Leport called and says that you owe him money each time you say that


As long as I don't spell it with capital letters and a small i, I don't think he will mind.
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559. Dakster 12:04 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting JNCali:

just please avoid hanging out with young weathermen in hot tubs!


There are some weather WOMEN I wouldn't mind hanging out in a hot tub with...
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560. Patrap 12:04 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
All scores are possible in football except 1.


Not 34 to 30 in OT

Urrrrp,,
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561. hahaguy 12:05 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Dakster:


You know, where is NRAAMY???



From the looks of it she got banned.
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562. GeoffreyWPB 12:05 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:


I'll tell you the truth. I'm a little confused by your tactics, so I'm gunna keep acting tough.


Just don't come after me dewey. I really don't like Grothar.
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563. spathy 12:05 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Dakster:
P451 - I just read that online... Still don't have any answers though. Doesn't sound like anyone else does either. Looks like it could be a southwest power problem.



Who is Gov out there in Calif now?
Oh !
Never-mind.
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565. Dakster 12:06 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting hahaguy:


From the looks of it she got banned.


And was so mad she caused the California black out?
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566. JNCali 12:06 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    

Quoting Dakster:
What's going on in San Diego? No power in Southern California and they are not saying why...
undoubtedly a new tunnel being dug under the border hit a powerline.. luckily it didn't affect us in Riverside County.. 107 today.. no ac would be bad...
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567. hahaguy 12:06 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Dakster:


And was so mad she caused the California black out?


That's what I figured lol.
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568. GetReal 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    


Check out that large hot tower on the SE side of Nate's COC!
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569. Grothar 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting midnite02:
Grothar

Long time lurker. But I have enjoy your comments.

Your like a grandpa teaching us.

jf

PS I hope that doesnt make you feel to old





Oh, no. That makes me feel really good about myself. :)
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570. PcolaDan 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


fair enough...I'm still delighted


You were lighted?
Did it hurt?
Do you feel better now?
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571. aquak9 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting thesituation:


I want to have your child

What the hell was in those brownies????!!!
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572. PrivateIdaho 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting bappit:

Pluto is just a dog. Goofy is a character.


well that clears that up...:^/
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573. presslord 12:07 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
I miss Arnold...he really impressed me...he managed to find the only woman on Earth less attractive than Maria Shriver...And she was living in his house!!!! What are the odds?!?!?!
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574. weatherh98 12:08 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
All scores are possible in football except 1.


Yes but he said 34-30 in ot and that means the saints would have to get a 4 point score....
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575. Dakster 12:08 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting aquak9:

What the hell was in those brownies????!!!


Apparently some really good stuff!

Jealous that they were better than your doughnuts?
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576. Bielle 12:08 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Not there yet, Levi, but thanks. What is with these models? Looks like there is no consistency. Well, I guess as Emerson wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds". They better get going because it is confusing looking at the changes they make every update.


Or "A foolish hobgoblin little minds consistency." Glad to see you inhabiting your own name.
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578. spathy 12:09 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting presslord:
I miss Arnold...he really impressed me...he managed to find the only woman on Earth less attractive than Maria Shriver...And she was living in his house!!!! What are the odds?!?!?!


Yup and he had electricity so it wasnt the lighting.
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579. hurricanehunter27 12:09 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Not 34 to 30 in OT

Urrrrp,,
You heard about the new rule with OT right? You have to win with a TD not a field goal or a safty. So 2 safty's.
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580. bappit 12:10 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:
Got some updates from Pennsylvania. There are hundreds of trucks and cars stranded on Route 17 (I86). Most of it is closed and the drivers can't get out. The townspeople are bringing them food and fresh water. They don't know how long they will be there. The flooding is much worse than anything they have ever experienced. The water level is beginning to rise in Binghamton.

I'm surprised the place isn't a desert up there. Hard to imagine a place where they haven't recorded seven inches of rain before.
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581. Dakster 12:10 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Arizona is now dark...

Yuma and Phoenix confirmed...
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582. GTcooliebai 12:10 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Well I'm glad to have football back =)

Two pretty good teams facing off tonight for the season opener.

I saw a prediction of 33-30...that would be a believable score at least midway through the season...I'm more inclined to go with 24-21, because I have a feeling there is going to be some rust due to the shortened off-season that had no mini-camp & training camp.



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583. BahaHurican 12:11 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Are you behaving?
It's a good thing u didn't ask me this.... lol

Howarya, neighbour?

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584. Dakster 12:12 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Patrap - better get the generator going or you might miss the game...
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585. bappit 12:13 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. -- Ralph

Divines = weather forecasters
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586. Grothar 12:13 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting Bielle:


Or "A foolish hobgoblin little minds consistency." Glad to see you inhabiting your own name.


Thanks, Bielle. And don't confuse me. I'm too old. LOL
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590. Grothar 12:15 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting bappit:
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. -- Ralph

Divines = weather forecasters


I left the last part out deliberately, lest it start a blog war. LOL!
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592. GeoffreyWPB 12:15 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
I know you like spiders dewey...

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593. Dakster 12:15 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
I thought we supposedly fixed the cascading failure part from happening again. After the power plant SNAFU in Miami-Dade nearly took out the entire state of Florida a couple of years ago.

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595. LouisianaWoman 12:16 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
All scores are possible in football except 1.


True, but not when you call said score to happen in an OT win.

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596. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:17 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Wish we had one of these in the open Atlantic, even a little stronger.

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597. Dakster 12:17 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
GWPB - I have spiders that big in my yard right now...
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598. FrankZapper 12:18 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
I am so excited I put up the wrong prediction. Let's try again! Saints 34 Packers 31 OT
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599. Thundercloud01221991 12:19 AM GMT on September 09, 2011    
Any news on the blackout... how widespread is it?
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