Did Hurricane Wilma have 209 mph sustained winds?

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:00 PM GMT on April 28, 2012

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At last week's 30th Conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology of the American Meteorological Society, Dr. Eric Uhlhorn of NOAA's Hurricane Research Division presented a poster that looked at the relationship between surface winds measured by the SFMR instrument and flight-level winds in two Category 5 storms. Hurricane Hunter flights done into Category 5 Supertyphoon Megi (17 October 2010) and Category 5 Hurricane Felix (03 September 2007) found that the surface winds measured by SFMR were greater than those measured at flight level (10,000 feet.) Usually, surface winds in a hurricane are 10 - 15% less than at 10,000 feet, but he showed that in super-intense Category 5 storms with small eyes, the dynamics of these situations may generate surface winds that are as strong or stronger than those found at 10,000 feet. He extrapolated this statistical relationship (using the inertial stability measured at flight level) to Hurricane Wilma of 2005, which was the strongest hurricane on record (882 mb), but was not observed by the SFMR. He estimated that the maximum wind averaged around the eyewall in Wilma at peak intensity could have been 209 mph, plus or minus 20 mph--so conceivably as high as 229 mph, with gusts to 270 mph. Yowza. That's well in excess of the 200 mph minimum wind speed a top end EF-5 tornado has. The Joplin, Missouri EF-5 tornado of May 22, 2011 had winds estimated at 225 - 250 mph. That tornado ripped pavement from the ground, leveled buildings to the concrete slabs they were built on, and killed 161 people. It's not a pretty thought to consider what Wilma would have done to Cancun, Key West, or Fort Myers had the hurricane hit with sustained winds of what the Joplin tornado had.


Figure 1. Hurricane Wilma's pinhole eye as seen at 8:22 a.m. CDT Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005, by the crew aboard NASA's international space station as the complex flew 222 miles above the storm. At the time, Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane in history, with a central pressure of 882 mb and sustained surface winds estimated at 185 mph. The storm was located in the Caribbean Sea, 340 miles southeast of Cozumel, Mexico. Image source: NASA's Space Photo Gallery.


Figure 2. Damage in Joplin, Missouri after the EF-5 tornado of May 22, 2011. Image credit: wunderphotographer thebige.

Official all-time strongest winds in an Atlantic hurricane: 190 mph
The official record for strongest winds in an Atlantic hurricane is 190 mph, for Hurricane Allen of 1980 as it was entering the Gulf of Mexico, and for Hurricane Camille of 1969, as it was making landfall in Pass Christian, Mississippi. In Dr. Bob Sheets' and Jack Williams' book, Hurricane Watch, they recount the Hurricane Hunters flight into Camile as the hurricane reached peak intensity: On Sunday afternoon, August 17, and Air Force C-130 piloted by Marvin Little penetrated Camille's eye and measured a pressure of 26.62 inches of mercury. "Just as we were nearing the eyewall cloud we suddenly broke into a clear area and could see the sea surface below," the copilot, Robert Lee Clark, wrote in 1982. "What a sight! Although everyone on the crew was experienced except me, no one had seen the wind whip the sea like that before...Instead of the green and white splotches normally found in a storm, the sea surface was in deep furrows running along the wind direction....The velocity was beyond the descriptions used in our training and far beyond anything we had ever seen." So, the 190 mph winds of Camille were an estimate that was off the scale from anything that had ever been observed in the past. The books that the Hurricane Hunters carried, filled with photos of the sea state at various wind speeds, only goes up to 150 mph (Figure 2). I still used this book to estimate surface winds when I flew with the Hurricane Hunters in the late 1980s, and the books are still carried on the planes today. In the two Category 5 hurricanes I flew into, Hugo and Gilbert, I never observed the furrowing effect referred to above. Gilbert had surface winds estimated at 175 mph based on what we measured at flight level, so I believe the 190 mph wind estimate in Camille may be reasonable.


Figure 3. Appearance of the sea surface in winds of 130 knots (150 mph). Image credit: Wind Estimations from Aerial Observations of Sea Conditions (1954), by Charlie Neumann.


Figure 4. Radar image of Hurricane Camille taken at 22:15 UTC August 17, 1969, a few hours before landfall in Mississippi. At the time, Camille had the highest sustained winds of any Atlantic hurricane in history--190 mph.

The infamous hurricane hunter flight into Wilma during its rapid intensification
While I was at last week's conference, I had a conversation with Rich Henning, a flight meteorologist for NOAA's Hurricane Hunters, who served for many years as a Air Reconnaissance Weather Officer (ARWO) for the Air Force Hurricane Hunters. Rich told me the story of the Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission into Hurricane Wilma in the early morning hours of October 19, 2005, as Wilma entered its explosive deepening phase. The previous airplane, which had departed Category 1 Wilma six hours previously, flew through Wilma at an altitude of 5,000 feet. They measured a central pressure of 954 mb when they departed the eye at 23:10 UTC. The crew of the new plane assumed that the hurricane, though intensifying, was probably not a major hurricane, and decided that they would also go in at 5,000 feet. Winds outside the eyewall were less than hurricane force, so this seemed like a reasonable assumption. Once the airplane hit the eyewall, they realized their mistake. Flight level winds quickly rose to 186 mph, far in excess of Category 5 strength, and severe turbulence rocked the aircraft. The aircraft was keeping a constant pressure altitude to maintain their height above the ocean during the penetration, but the area of low pressure at Wilma's center was so intense that the airplane descended at over 1,000 feet per minute during the penetration in order to maintain a constant pressure altitude. By they time they punched into the incredibly tiny 4-mile wide eye, which had a central pressure of just 901 mb at 04:32 UTC, the plane was at a dangerously low altitude of 1,500 feet--not a good idea in a Category 5 hurricane. The pilot ordered an immediate climb, and the plane exited the other side of Wilma's eyewall at an altitude of 10,000 feet. They maintained this altitude for the remainder of the flight. During their next pass through the eye at 06:11 UTC, the diameter of the eye had shrunk to an incredibly tiny two miles--the smallest hurricane eye ever measured. During their third and final pass through the eye at 0801 UTC, a dropsonde found a central pressure of 882 mb--the lowest pressure ever observed in an Atlantic hurricane. In the span of just 24 hours, Wilma had intensified from a 70 mph tropical storm to a 175 mph category 5 hurricane--an unprecedented event for an Atlantic hurricane. Since the pressure was still falling, it is likely that Wilma became even stronger after the mission departed.

I'll have a new post by Tuesday at the latest.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting CaribBoy:
2010 had 19 named storms, 2011 had 19 named storms, 2012?? Why not 19 storms as well after all lol. Who knows! More seriously I do think we will see an increased number of predicted storms in the next CSU forecast. I'd say 13 named systems.

where in the caribbean are you? I'm in Jamaica
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Quoting Tribucanes:
little blond Indians I understand, of coarse it is. Black kid marauding as an Indian too. And of coarse it was that giant solar flare that wiped the Indians out.
believe it or not the blond child represents the death of the nazi empire
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Quoting Tribucanes:
little blond Indians I understand, of coarse it is. Black kid marauding as an Indian too. And of coarse it was that giant solar flare that wiped the Indians out.


You just made no sense whatsoever....

edit: i just figured it out never mind...
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Quoting CaribBoy:
2010 had 19 named storms, 2011 had 19 named storms, 2012?? Why not 19 storms as well after all lol. Who knows! More seriously I do think we will see an increased number of predicted storm in the next CSU forecast. I'd say 13 named systems.

2010 was a la nina year...2011 had la nina conditions in the peak of the hurricane season....2012 could have 19 storms, but I doubt it
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little blond Indians I understand, of coarse it is. Black kid marauding as an Indian too. And of coarse it was that giant solar flare that wiped the Indians out.
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2010 had 19 named storms, 2011 had 19 named storms, 2012?? Why not 19 storms as well after all lol. Who knows! More seriously I do think we will see an increased number of predicted storms in the next CSU forecast. I'd say 13 named systems.
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blockquote class='blogquote'>Quoting Tribucanes:
yeah thanks talk about family friendly at the airport. Sure, I'll approve that! What were they thinking? Really, what were they thinking?
you do know thats a enviromental dipiction all the animals are gone or almost near to being gone dead native people that no longer walk the earth there is ivory tusk to the right and burning of our forests in the backround with a sea turtle to the left with a humpback whale above it spotted lepoard in the centre and a mounted buffalo head to the right with the children weeping over it also a great auk in the womens hands all these are gone or soon will be
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Biloxi,MS after hurricane Katrina...showing the full force of Katrina's storm surge
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There was a brief tornado touchdown on the Texas storm.

As I said, it needed a tornado warning. :P
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yeah thanks talk about family friendly at the airport. Sure, I'll approve that! What were they thinking? Really, what were they thinking?
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Quoting Tribucanes:
ever seen that mural in the new Denver airport. I'm not just quoting scripture. I'm a prophet called on in the last generation, and apparently some know it, perhaps not the ones I want to......I know, I know many will say that's quackish. But check many of my prior posts please and you will see quite the opposite. If I may quote the sixties, "Come one man, I know what's going on, you've just gotta listen and free your mind. Peace, love, and the truth man, the truth can save us all."


you mean this one
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HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
841 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

OKZ004>048-050>052-TXZ083>090-291000-
HARPER-WOODS-ALFALFA-GRANT-KAY-ELLIS-WOODWARD-MAJ OR-GARFIELD-NOBLE-
ROGER MILLS-DEWEY-CUSTER-BLAINE-KINGFISHER-LOGAN-PAYNE-B ECKHAM-
WASHITA-CADDO-CANADIAN-OKLAHOMA-LINCOLN-GRADY-MCC LAIN-CLEVELAND-
POTTAWATOMIE-SEMINOLE-HUGHES-HARMON-GREER-KIOWA-J ACKSON-TILLMAN-
COMANCHE-STEPHENS-GARVIN-MURRAY-PONTOTOC-COAL-COT TON-JEFFERSON-
CARTER-JOHNSTON-ATOKA-LOVE-MARSHALL-BRYAN-HARDEMA N-FOARD-WILBARGER-
WICHITA-KNOX-BAYLOR-ARCHER-CLAY-
841 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK COVERS NORTHERN...WESTERN...
CENTRAL...AND SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA...AND WESTERN NORTH TEXAS.

.DAY ONE...REST OF TONIGHT...

THUNDERSTORM OUTLOOK...
THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT ACROSS MUCH
OF OKLAHOMA AND WESTERN NORTH TEXAS.

LOCATION...
THE SLIGHT RISK AREA INCLUDES ALL OF WESTERN NORTH TEXAS AND THAT
PORTION OF OKLAHOMA NORTHWEST OF A LINE FROM ARDMORE TO ADA TO
HOLDENVILLE.

TIMING...
THE MOST LIKELY TIME FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE THROUGH EARLY
SUNDAY MORNING.

IMPACTS...
HAIL TO THE SIZE OF TENNIS BALLS AND WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH. VERY
HEAVY RAIN WILL ALSO BE A CONCERN OVERNIGHT.

RECOMMENDED ACTIONS...
STORM SPOTTER GROUPS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL ACROSS THE
RISK AREA SHOULD PLAN FOR SEVERE WEATHER OPERATIONS THROUGH SUNDAY
MORNING.

DISCUSSION...
A STATIONARY SURFACE FRONT EXTENDING ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHWESTERN
OKLAHOMA THIS EVENING WILL BEGIN TO LIFT NORTH LATER TONIGHT. A CAP
IN PLACE OVER THE REGION HAS HAMPERED THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT EARLY
THIS EVENING. HOWEVER... LIFT IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE DURING THE
LATTER HALF OF THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET
STRENGTHENS. THIS WILL LEAD TO SCATTERED TO WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS... ESPECIALLY IN AREAS NORTH OF THE FRONT ACROSS PARTS
OF CENTRAL AND NORTHERN OKLAHOMA. THESE THUNDERSTORMS WILL LIKELY BE
ELEVATED. HOWEVER... ENOUGH INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO EXIST OVER
THE REGION FOR SOME OF THE STORMS TO BECOME STRONG TO SEVERE. LARGE
HAIL AND STRONG WIND GUSTS WILL BE THE MAIN CONCERNS WITH ANY SEVERE
STORM.

THE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO SUNDAY
MORNING.

PROBABILITY TABLE...
VALID THROUGH 700 AM CDT SUNDAY APR 29.
PROBABILITY OF THUNDERSTORMS OCCURRING IN THE
NWS NORMAN COUNTY WARNING AREA...100 PERCENT.
PROBABILITY OF SEVERE STORMS IF STORMS OCCUR...50 PERCENT.

OTHER HAZARDOUS WEATHER...
VERY HEAVY RAIN AND TRAINING OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE
OVERNIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. THIS COULD LEAD TO FLOODING...
ESPECIALLY IN LOW-LYING AND FLOOD PRONE AREAS. THE BEST CHANCE
FOR LOCALIZED FLOODING WILL BE IN PARTS OF CENTRAL AND NORTHERN
OKLAHOMA.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY...

THUNDERSTORM OUTLOOK...
THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE LIKELY AGAIN ON SUNDAY AND THE CHANCE OF
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL PERSIST. ALTHOUGH THE COVERAGE OF SHOWERS
AND STORMS WILL DECREASE ON MONDAY... THERE WILL AGAIN BE A RISK OF
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS.

OTHER HAZARDOUS WEATHER...
WITH WIDESPREAD RAIN EXPECTED AND STORMS PRODUCING LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINFALL... SOME FLOODING WILL BE POSSIBLE SUNDAY AND MONDAY.

THE NEXT SCHEDULED HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK WILL BE ISSUED AT 5 AM
SUNDAY.

$$

AUSTIN/MAXWELL
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Nearer but not in...



Oh well... I certainly don't know better than the NWS but I'm left to scratch my head a little on this. Not that it's really that important anyways.

Night everyone

Have a good night MAwb1
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August 29, 2005
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Quoting ScottLincoln:


What if it right turns? What if some of the hail is transported to the RFD and falls in the appendage (which stretches slightly into the southern county)?

The highest echo top has since reformed further south, nearer to the county/CWA line.

Nearer but not in...



Oh well... I certainly don't know better than the NWS but I'm left to scratch my head a little on this. Not that it's really that important anyways.

Night everyone
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ever seen that mural in the new Denver airport. I'm not just quoting scripture. I'm a prophet called on in the last generation, and apparently some know it, perhaps not the ones I want to......I know, I know many will say that's quackish. But check many of my prior posts please and you will see quite the opposite. If I may quote the sixties, "Come one man, I know what's going on, you've just gotta listen and free your mind. Peace, love, and the truth man, the truth can save us all."
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August 27, 2005...hurricane Katrina went over a pool of higher TCHP and rapidly strengthen to a cat 5
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I cannot imagine, being in..baseball sized hail...............SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
TXC263-433-290230-
/O.NEW.KLUB.SV.W.0064.120429T0124Z-120429T0230Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK TX
824 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LUBBOCK HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN KENT COUNTY IN NORTHWEST TEXAS.
STONEWALL COUNTY IN NORTHWEST TEXAS.

* UNTIL 930 PM CDT

* AT 821 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING BASEBALL SIZE HAIL...AND
DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED 9
MILES SOUTHWEST OF PEACOCK...OR 12 MILES SOUTH OF JAYTON...AND
MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH.

* SOME LOCATIONS NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM INCLUDE SWENSON...
ASPERMONT AND OLD GLORY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

DESTRUCTIVE HAIL CAN BE EXPECTED WITH THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW. GO
TO THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING AND AVOID WINDOWS.

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS CAN BE EXPECTED. IF YOU CANNOT GET UNDERGROUND...GO
TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. AVOID
WINDOWS.

TO REPORT SEVERE WEATHER...PLEASE CALL THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
AT 8067451290.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 200 AM CDT SUNDAY
MORNING FOR THE PANHANDLE AND NORTHWEST TEXAS.

&&

LAT...LON 3295 9999 3296 10058 3319 10062 3334 9999
3296 9999
TIME...MOT...LOC 0124Z 254DEG 38KT 3309 10047

$$

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Quoting MetMan2012:


No, Grotha, los ibericos espanoles hablan asi.


Él es inglés, no español. Me refería a la forma en que él escribe.

Still raining by you. It stopped here, but they said a lot more is coming.
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Quoting weatherh98:


Couldn't they have just issued a severe tstorm warning then?


That's what the warning is....?
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Quoting ScottLincoln:


What if it right turns? What if some of the hail is transported to the RFD and falls in the appendage (which stretches slightly into the southern county)?

The highest echo top has since reformed further south, nearer to the county/CWA line.


Couldn't they have just issued a severe tstorm warning then?
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Quoting fmhurricane2009:
TAWX13 you have mail!

I do? It doesn't show.

EDIT: Nevermind.
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TAWX13 you have mail!
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

What was the person who issued the south warning thinking though? The storm never had a chance to go through there.


What if it right turns? What if some of the hail is transported to the RFD and falls in the appendage (which stretches slightly into the southern county)?

The highest echo top has since reformed further south, nearer to the county/CWA line.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:


Different CWAs.... WFO Lubbock vs. WFO San Angelo.

What was the person who issued the south warning thinking though? The storm never had a chance to go through there.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
There ya go...



What a mess: Three warnings, one that the storm has already went through, one it will totally miss, and one it will go through.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Yeah who is issuing these warnings? The storm isn't even going to touch that new one!

Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Now they've put one up that the storm actually will go through, though they've left the pointless one up.

Meanwhile there's still some rotation with this storm.

Different CWAs.... WFO Lubbock vs. WFO San Angelo.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Yeah who is issuing these warnings? The storm isn't even going to touch that new one!

Now they've put one up that the storm actually will go through, though they've left the pointless one up.

Meanwhile there's still some rotation with this storm.
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
TXC151-253-290215-
/O.NEW.KSJT.SV.W.0044.120429T0117Z-120429T0215Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX
817 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN ANGELO HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN FISHER COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL TEXAS...
NORTHWESTERN JONES COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL TEXAS...

* UNTIL 915 PM CDT

* AT 814 PM CDT...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS 10 MILES NORTHWEST OF
ROTAN...OR 22 MILES SOUTH OF JAYTON...MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH.

STORM HAZARDS INCLUDE...
QUARTER TO PING PONG BALL SIZE HAIL.
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH.

WITH POSSIBLE STORM IMPACTS...
SOME VEHICLE DENTS...
SOME ROOF AND PLASTIC SIGN DAMAGE...
SOME EXPOSED WINDOWS MAY CRACK OR BREAK...
SOME TREE LIMB DAMAGE...WEAKENED TREES TOPPLED...
UNSECURED LIGHT OBJECTS BLOWN AROUND...
SCATTERED POWER OUTAGES POSSIBLE...
POTENTIALLY DEADLY LIGHTNING.

* THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL BE NEAR...
ROTAN BY 830 PM CDT...
HITSON BY 905 PM CDT...
HAMLIN BY 915 PM CDT...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 200 AM CDT SUNDAY
MORNING FOR WEST CENTRAL TEXAS.

&&

LAT...LON 3296 10007 3282 10008 3284 10065 3297 10065
TIME...MOT...LOC 0116Z 266DEG 22KT 3294 10059

$$

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Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
"Unusual Heatwave" swoops in at the wire to take the Snow Chief Stakes at Hollywood Park today.

At the moment this race was taking place, a hailstorm raked across Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky.

For older horse fans, I saw Snow Chief run at Oaklawn Park shortly before he retired in 1987, and he looked like a tank moving down the stretch, flanked on both sides by his attendants. He truly was an awesome horse to watch, with perhaps the biggest chest I've ever seen to this day.

Any post that uses the racing form I have to respond to.
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I wasn't watching earlier, but I'm currently wagering on the horses running at Churchill Downs tonite. Everything's fine, though the track is sloppy. The horses are loving it and there's a large crowd. Wish me luck in the late P4.
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There ya go...

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Quoting WxGeekVA:
Check out the hail core on the Louisville storm! At the time, my GRAnalyst was saying that the storm had 4.75 inch hail!!!



Maximum Estimate Hail Size (MEHS) means that there is a 25% chance of larger hail and a 75% chance of smaller hail. The largest error bars with the algorithm are at the upper end, where dense areas of small, wet hail can cause similar reflectivities to very large hail.
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Quoting Grothar:


Hay que trabajar en su español un poco. Yo lo entiendo, pero es un poco difícil. Espero que no los "illuminati" de la Iglesia.

Esperamos!
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
TXC169-263-290130-
/O.NEW.KLUB.SV.W.0063.120429T0030Z-120429T0130Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK TX
730 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LUBBOCK HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN GARZA COUNTY IN NORTHWEST TEXAS.
KENT COUNTY IN NORTHWEST TEXAS.

* UNTIL 830 PM CDT

* AT 728 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING TENNIS BALL SIZE HAIL...
AND DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED
NEAR LAKE ALAN HENRY...OR 24 MILES SOUTHEAST OF POST...AND MOVING
NORTHEAST AT 20 MPH.

* SOME LOCATIONS NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM INCLUDE CLAIREMONT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

DESTRUCTIVE HAIL CAN BE EXPECTED WITH THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW. GO
TO THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING AND AVOID WINDOWS.

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS CAN BE EXPECTED. IF YOU CANNOT GET UNDERGROUND...GO
TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. AVOID
WINDOWS.

TO REPORT SEVERE WEATHER...PLEASE CALL THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
AT 8067451290.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 200 AM CDT SUNDAY
MORNING FOR THE PANHANDLE AND NORTHWEST TEXAS.

&&

LAT...LON 3297 10106 3306 10114 3328 10095 3328 10062
3311 10052 3296 10052
TIME...MOT...LOC 0030Z 232DEG 19KT 3305 10099

$$

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Huh?


Yeah who is issuing these warnings? The storm isn't even going to touch that new one!
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Quoting stormpetrol:
I still think Ivan was the most powerful Hurricane to roam the Atlantic & Caribbean, but then again I am bias because I lived through it, It is an experience I wouldn't have missed for the world, but one I would never want to experience again if that makes any sense!

Hurricane Ivan wobble to the west and spared Jamaica the worst, but Cayman really took a pounding
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Quoting Tribucanes:
So Plaza Red if GW isn't going to be the end of the world as we know it, what will be the trigger to what will be? The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zo'ar. Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomor'rah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; and he overthrew those cities, and all the valley and all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.

Global Warming isnt going to be the end of Mankind as we know it! Its just going to be a big pain in the neck.
Anything that came before our time,(IE about 1950,) was absorbed within the general scheme of planetary self correcting systems.
These said systems did not have the ability to cope with radiation and pollution on a grand scale as they are not " naturally," occurring phenomenon.
Quoting Biblical catastrophes and other pestilence is not an issue in the present sequence of events, I see the process of human derived pollution, simply as a pointer to a crossroads in human development and occupation of the planet.
The process of pollution is now inevitable, the consequences of it are predictable but as of now the predictors are ridiculed.
With or without humans the sun will still rise, the only thing is, without humans there will be nobody to photograph it!
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Huh?

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I still think Ivan was the most powerful Hurricane to roam the Atlantic & Caribbean, but then again I am bias because I lived through it, It is an experience I wouldn't have missed for the world, but one I would never want to experience again if that makes any sense!
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Quoting weatherh98:


Doesn't mean that it hasn't worked its way down


Doesn't mean that it has either...

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Eh, I don't know. GREarth shows rotation too which uses all surrounding radar sites and compiles them to give the most accurate data available to the public.


I'm using GR2Analyst, and I've looked at all of the sites, and I'm not seeing the rotation. Also, the storm seems to have weakened since I made that comment too.
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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX
801 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

TXZ049-290200-
FISHER TX-
801 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

...SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY EFFECTIVE UNTIL 900 PM CDT FOR FISHER
COUNTY...

AT 756 PM CDT...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WAS LOCATED 16 MILES NORTHWEST
OF ROTAN...OR ABOUT 20 MILES NORTHEAST OF SNYDER...MOVING EAST AT 25
MPH.

* THE STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL BE NEAR...
ROTAN BY 830 PM CDT
HITSON BY 900 PM CDT

HAIL UP TO THE SIZE OF NICKELS AND WIND GUSTS TO 50 MPH ARE POSSIBLE
WITH THIS STORM. DANGEROUS CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING IS ALSO
OCCURRING WITH THIS THUNDERSTORM. IF YOU CAN HEAR THUNDER...YOU ARE
CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING. RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO
MONITOR THE SITUATION CLOSELY AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE THE PROPER
ACTIONS SHOULD A WARNING BE ISSUED.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 200 AM CDT SUNDAY
MORNING FOR WEST CENTRAL TEXAS.

LAT...LON 3296 10015 3284 10014 3283 10066 3296 10065
TIME...MOT...LOC 0059Z 266DEG 23KT 3295 10069

$$



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Quoting WxGeekVA:


I'm looking at the same storm, and the rotation is just too broad. That isn't even low level rotation, it's a few thousand feet up because it's not close to a radar station. I don't think that storm is tornadic IMO.

Eh, I don't know. GREarth shows rotation too which uses all surrounding radar sites and compiles them to give the most accurate data available to the public.
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SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK TX
807 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

TXC263-290130-
/O.CON.KLUB.SV.W.0063.000000T0000Z-120429T0130Z/
KENT TX-
807 PM CDT SAT APR 28 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHEASTERN
KENT COUNTY UNTIL 830 PM CDT...

AT 802 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO
INDICATE A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM...CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LARGE
DESTRUCTIVE HAIL UP TO BASEBALL SIZE...AND DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN
EXCESS OF 70 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED 7 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
CLAIREMONT...OR 14 MILES SOUTHWEST OF JAYTON...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
MAINLY RURAL AREAS OF EASTERN KENT COUNTY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TO REPORT SEVERE WEATHER...PLEASE CALL THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
IN LUBBOCK AT 8067451290.

&&

LAT...LON 3297 10080 3319 10081 3327 10061 3311 10052
3296 10052
TIME...MOT...LOC 0106Z 254DEG 38KT 3309 10064

$$

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