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Hurricane Irene of 2011 now rated history's 6th most damaging hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:33 PM GMT on May 03, 2012 +32
New damage estimates released last month by NOAA now place the damage from 2011's Hurricane Irene at $15.8 billion, making the storm the 6th costliest hurricane and 10th costliest weather-related disaster in U.S. history. Irene hit North Carolina on August 27, 2011, as a Category 1 hurricane with 85 mph winds, and made landfalls the next day in New Jersey and New York City as a tropical storm. Most of the damage from Irene occurred because of the tremendous fresh water flooding the storm's rains brought to much of New England. Irene is now rated as the most expensive Category 1 hurricane to hit the U.S. The previous record was held by Hurricane Agnes of 1972, whose floods did $11.8 billion in damage in the Northeast. NOAA also announced that the name Irene had been retired from the list of active hurricane names. Irene was the only named retired in 2011, and was the 76th name to be retired since 1954. The name Irene was replaced with Irma, which is next scheduled be used in 2017.


Figure 1. True-color MODIS image of Hurricane Irene over North Carolina taken at 11:35 am EDT August 27, 2011. At the time, Irene was a Category 1 hurricane with 85 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

At last month's 30th Conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology of the American Meteorological Society, Paul Ruscher of Florida State University explained how Irene's storm surge came within 8 inches of flooding New York City's subway system, which would have caused devastating damage. At the current global rate of sea level rise of 3.1 mm/year, a repeat of Irene 65 years from now would be capable of flooding the subway system, if no action is taken. Since sea level rise is expected to accelerate as the planet warms in coming decades, an Irene-type storm surge would likely be capable of flooding the NYC subway system much sooner than that. To read more about New York City's vulnerability, see Andrew Freedman's analysis at Climate Central, Climate Change Could Cripple New York’s Transportation, or my November 2011 blog post, Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster.

Jeff Masters
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451. SteveDa1 3:48 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting WxGeekVA:
Before I go to sleep, here's lightning in slow motion...





Amazing to see in slow motion! It must be noted that lightning travels at 3700 miles a second... I can`t believe one could make a slow motion video - unless the given speed is for the return-flash only.
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452. BobWallace 3:53 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Well, for some reason I have a feeling you looked that up. But that is OK. I remembered it from school back in the 1950's. Some things just stick with you. But this is also a good way of learning. I am really happy to see people, especially the younger ones, take the time to look up correct facts.


I remember the State of Franklin from growing up there in the 1940s and 1950s. I did have to look up the State of Frankland as I had never heard of that version before. I don't think we had a lot of Franks around back then. The German side of my family came from Bavaria.

BTW, I now live in the (almost) State of Jefferson.
Feel free to look that one up if you need.... ;o)
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453. Grothar 3:58 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting BobWallace:


I remember the State of Franklin from growing up there in the 1940s and 1950s. I did have to look up the State of Frankland as I had never heard of that version before. I don't think we had a lot of Franks around back then. The German side of my family came from Bavaria.

BTW, I now live in the (almost) State of Jefferson.
Feel free to look that one up if you need.... ;o)


Don't have to look it up. I have family in Oregon. :) In which side of the almost state do you reside.
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454. docrod 3:59 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


G'nite Skye - checking out early .... look at all those photons going nowhere. Ok - elsewhere.
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455. Skyepony (Mod) 4:03 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Surface trough formed this afternoon accompanied by some mid level turning east of Tampa. Good thing the gulf isn't tepid hot & the shear is 30kts. Come on rain.

Looking at GMAO (select Tropical Atlantic under region). Dominican Republic looks like it might get dumped on, with more rain for PR. May be the start of a very week low that moves off to the NE. GFS takes that moisture that hit South America today & draws it over the Leeward Islands.

Nite docrod.
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456. sunlinepr 4:10 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
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457. BobWallace 4:12 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Don't have to look it up. I have family in Oregon. :) In which side of the almost state do you reside.


I'm a southern Jefferson boy.

Down in the Emerald Triangle....
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458. Grothar 4:15 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting BobWallace:


I'm a southern Jefferson boy.

Down in the Emerald Triangle....


Sounds like a bunch of Humboldt to me. :) You are too much, Bob!!
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459. Grothar 4:16 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Goodnight everyone.
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460. Skyepony (Mod) 4:20 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Weather Insurance Losses Approach $2 Billion In April from the tornadoes hail & such.
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461. Skyepony (Mod) 4:24 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting sunlinepr:


See the yellow fog at Fukushima? The camera watchers are chatting this up. Odd how Tepco admits the gas/fog that comes out all the time is radioactive right before it turns yellow.
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462. sunlinepr 4:35 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
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463. sunlinepr 4:40 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


See the yellow fog at Fukushima? The camera watchers are chatting this up. Odd how Tepco admits the gas/fog that comes out all the time is radioactive right before it turns yellow.



Gundersen: “The water is steaming and boiling” still at Fukushima; “Yes, there’s some radiation being given off ” (AUDIO) — Visible in recent Tepco webcam footage? (VIDEO)

Published: May 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm ET



Interview On April 15, 2012
KGO Radio’s Pat Thurston
Arnie Gundersen

Host: Let me ask you about the pools themselves. They’re not covered up they’ve got these rods in there that they are trying to cool down… I assume they’re still emitting radioactivity… I assume that’s still going out into the air?

Gundersen: Yes. There’s some radiation being given off because the water is steaming and boiling.

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464. sunlinepr 4:48 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
The thing with Fukushima, is that some ammounts of that radioactivity is reaching Alaska, Hawaii, and W Conus. We can disagree on the quantity, but the fact is that it is occuring. Not considering all the other many countries in the Pacific and at the moment there is no international effort imposing an inmediate stop.... This is serious...

Joe Rogan on Fukushima and Nuclear Power: If these reactors keep messing up, were going to have giant areas of our world contaminated and dead for 100,000s of years Thats the reality were operating under (VIDEO)

Link
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465. Skyepony (Mod) 5:07 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Finally the ASCAT..
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466. Jedkins01 5:30 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting KoritheMan:


I don't even need a wand.



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468. aspectre 6:37 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Hopefully the moderators won't find this to be highly deletable due to being a bit too far off-topic even for a relatively quiet weather period.
If someone wants to open up their own blog for the subject, I'll delete this myself and we can argue over it there. (Sorry, never bothered to figure out how to open a personal blog here cuz I can't see my writings as sufficiently thoughtful to be worth blogging.)

359 WxGeekVA: In other news, Russia seems to want another Cold War with the U.S....
Russia's military threatens preemptive strike if NATO goes ahead with missile plan


From the Russian perspective, an anti-ICBM shield is a FirstStrike*weapon. ie From their military point of view, the US has renounced the stabilization effect of MutuallyAssuredDestruction to embark on a campaign to obtain RetaliationlessFirstStrike capabilities.

1) Russian intelligence knows that US sonar/satellite/etc capabilities allow US hunter subs to track and fire upon Russian SLBM-carrying boomers long before their own boomers become aware of the US hunters. First warning of the possibility of being attacked will come when the hunters launch their anti-sub missiles and/or torpedoes.
They also know that Russian hunter subs will be detected long before they can detect US boomers. ie US boomers can easily be prepared to launch-on-detection of the launch of Russian anti-sub missiles and torpedoes.
That US capability plus a partial*anti-ICBM/SLBM shield would effectively negate one leg of the Russian Triad that is supposed to assure MAD retaliation in the event that the US launches a first strike.

2) Russian intelligence knows that US satellite capabilities make it highly unlikely that Russia can effectively hide land-based InterContinentalBallisticMissiles and IntermediateRangeBallisticMissiles.
And that the interval between an ICBM and/or SubmarineLaunchedBallisticMissile (from boomers) launch and a target being hit is so short that it precludes any troubleshooting upon the detection&launch equipment; and thus so short that those in the chain of command of ordering a launch cannot decide whether a mess on the radar screen is the result of a computer error or of an ultramassive first strike.
Since the beginning of the nuclear standoff, the Soviets have always had an automatic-launch capability based upon detection of seismic waves and/or high-energy radiation from a nuclear blast...
...and probably so do the Russians. The problem is that a properly timed sequence of launches can essentially hit nearly all of the targets at so nearly the same time that nearly all of the ICBMs will be destroyed before a retaliatory launch can be triggered automaticly.
The ones that survive long enough to be successfully launched can theoretically be mopped up by the US anti-missile system.
Thus the second leg of their MAD Triad would become effectively negated.

3) The AirForces' bomber-based leg of the MAD Triad (for both sides) has always depended upon the destruction of the other side's airfields and nearly all of their interceptor craft by ICBMs&SLBMs.
Until the ClintonAdministration, the US got around that by having the StrategicAirCommand maintain flight schedules such that a fifth to a quarter of the total operational strategic bomber forces were IN THE AIR for 24hours/day&7days/week coverage. Even if the home airfields were destroyed by a first strike, those bombers would already be heading toward the Soviets.
The Soviets couldn't and now the Russians can't afford the fuel&maintenance costs associated with keeping aircraft flying on such 24/7 coverage schedules.
And again the US anti-missile shield would theoretically protect US bombers&interceptors and their associated airfields from being destroyed by a retaliatory ICBM&SLBM strike.
Thus negating the third leg of Russia's MAD Triad.

I very much doubt that the US would quietly acquiesce to an exclusively Russian capability to negate the effectiveness of the US MAD Triad of Retaliation.
And "We wouldn't launch first, we're the GoodGuys." doesn't cut it. Militaries base their defense plans upon the Other's capabilities, and not upon what they hope will be the Other's good will.

* Anti-IRBM/ICBM/SLBM missiles are going to be outnumbered by the IRBMs/ICBMs/SLBMs available for a massive attack, so producing a full-shield effect necessitates pre-emptively knocking out the overwhelming majority of IRBMs/ICBMs/SLBMs while they're still in-or-on the ground and sea.
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470. LargoFl 7:32 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
rain is getting closer but still no cigar...................
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471. LargoFl 7:36 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
331 AM EDT FRI MAY 4 2012

FLZ039-042-043-048>052-055>057-060>062-065-GMZ830 -850-853-856-870-
873-876-050745-
LEVY-CITRUS-SUMTER-HERNANDO-PASCO-PINELLAS-HILLSB OROUGH-POLK-
MANATEE-HARDEE-HIGHLANDS-SARASOTA-DE SOTO-CHARLOTTE-LEE-
TAMPA BAY WATERS-TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER OUT 20 NM-
ENGLEWOOD TO TARPON SPRINGS OUT 20 NM-
BONITA BEACH TO ENGLEWOOD OUT 20 NM-
TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
ENGLEWOOD TO TARPON SPRINGS OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
BONITA BEACH TO ENGLEWOOD OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
331 AM EDT FRI MAY 4 2012

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT.

...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA THIS
AFTERNOON. SEVERE WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AND THE PRIMARY THREAT
WILL BE OCCASIONAL CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING STRIKES.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE AREA EACH DAY
THROUGH THURSDAY. SEVERE WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AND THE PRIMARY
THREAT WILL BE CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED TODAY.

$$

JOHNSON
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472. bappit 7:38 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
It isn't humorous, so I can't see how it could be deleted.
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473. Vincent4989 7:48 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    

While lightning strikes here, i must say i'm very excited to watch a hurricane at the start of the season.
On the other hand....
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474. LargoFl 8:00 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
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475. aspectre 8:57 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
405 Inyo: Irene left deep scars in Vermont that we are still dealing with.
I was just writing about Irene in my blog, and was surprised to see this post here.


Really nice write-up of Irene and invasive species on your blog.
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476. aspectre 9:22 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
472 bappit: It isn't humorous, so I can't see how it could be deleted.

The deleted "humorous" comments were almost always posted during Heavy Weather Emergencies, profanely/obscenely/etc worded, or posted to deliberately irritate the moderators and others who hate the unprovoked mention of trolls.
And having had one or two of my lengthy serious but off-topic comments made in response to another's postings deleted, I can assure you that MAD/etc is skirting the borderline even for a quiet period.
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477. MahFL 10:20 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
I think "re_anal.html" is an unfortunate web page name lol.
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478. AtHomeInTX 10:30 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Good morning all. Quite the read aspectre. And thought provoking. Recently read a book called Arc Light. That is a place I hope we never go. And decisions I cannot fathom having to make. Chilling. Well I'm awake now. ;)
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480. interstatelover7165 11:03 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
A weather joke:

...wait for it...

...Jose.
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481. percylives 11:13 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Aspectre, #468, there will be no winners should something like this happen.

Alan Robock of Rutgers has this interesting page. See the short presentation he gave at the 2011 AGU meeting. "Chilling" in many ways.
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482. aspectre 11:23 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Glacial pace not slow anymore
Greenland's glaciers are melting 30% faster than they did a decade ago.

Faster than the IntergovernmentalPanel(on)ClimateChange could agree upon as a consensus worst case scenario, and slower than what any qualified scientist could reasonably project from facts on the ground as the worst case scenario.
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483. StormTracker2K 11:43 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
GFS Long Range.


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484. AtHomeInTX 11:49 AM GMT on May 04, 2012    
La Nina made "the news." ;)

Goodbye La Nina: Will drought, hurricanes also go?
Associated PressAssociated Press – 19 hrs ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — The La Nina weather phenomenon is over. Forecasters say that's good news for the drought in the South and hurricane areas along the coasts.

The National Weather Service pronounced the two-year La Nina (NEEN'-yah) finished on Thursday. La Nina is the flip side of El Nino (NEEN'-yoh) and is caused by the cooling of the central Pacific Ocean. La Nina's greatest effects are in the winter, usually triggering drought in the U.S. South and more rain further north. It also often means more hurricane activity in the Atlantic during the summer. Global temperatures are cooler during La Ninas, especially in the tropics

Meteorologists reported some drought relief in Texas earlier this year. But recently drought conditions intensified again in parts of Texas and much of the Southeast.
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485. LargoFl 12:08 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
630 AM EDT FRI MAY 4 2012

FLZ045-041259-
ORANGE-
630 AM EDT FRI MAY 4 2012

...DENSE FOG AND SMOKE REPORTED AT STATE ROUTES 50 AND 5 20...

FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL REPORTS DENSE FOG AND SMOKE ARE REDUCING
VISIBILITIES AT STATE ROUTES 50 AND 5 20 IN EAST ORANGE COUNTY.
MOTORISTS ARE URGED TO USE CAUTION IN THIS AREA AS VERY SUDDEN
VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS CAN OCCUR.

ACCORDING TO F H P...A STRETCH OF STATE ROUTE 50 IS CLOSED AT STATE
ROUTE 5 20. INCREASING WINDS SHOULD HELP DISPERSE THE SMOKE AND FOG
BY 9 AM.

&&

$$

JP
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486. LargoFl 12:17 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
hey stormtracker, is this smoke from the fires over you?...
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487. LargoFl 12:19 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
hey stormtracker, is this smoke from the fires over you?...
gee we need Rain badly in Florida, and not just a shower or two..we need a real soaking in,all day rain huh
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488. LargoFl 12:22 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Check out this Sinkhole..ground water in Florida is going fast..rainy season we need you quick........................
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489. LargoFl 12:25 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
this sinkhole in polk cty got a car..
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490. LargoFl 12:27 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
this sinkhole in Leesburg got a whole store
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491. LargoFl 12:32 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Smoke closes major road in Orange county...................
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492. StormTracker2K 12:32 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
hey stormtracker, is this smoke from the fires over you?...


A little bit but nothing that's bad. It does however look like it wants to storm today. I am willing to bet that we see some storms fire today as there are lots of mid level & upper level clouds over us today which is a good indication that the atmosphere is much more moist today. Well see!
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493. StormTracker2K 12:36 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
Check out this Sinkhole..ground water in Florida is going fast..rainy season we need you quick........................


It looks like it may be here by looking at the forecast for the next seven days. Heck I even have 40 to 50 percent rain chances for atleast 3 days starting on Monday. This below is from the NWS in Melbourne

Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 89. East southeast wind around 5 mph.

Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 68. South southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Saturday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 90. West southwest wind around 5 mph.

Saturday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms before midnight. Partly cloudy, with a low around 69. West northwest wind around 5 mph.

Sunday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after noon. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. West wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Sunday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms before midnight. Partly cloudy, with a low around 70. West northwest wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Monday: A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly sunny, with a high near 90. West northwest wind around 5 mph becoming calm.

Monday Night: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 70. East northeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm.

Tuesday: A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly sunny, with a high near 89. West southwest wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Tuesday Night: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 69. West wind around 5 mph.

Wednesday: A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly sunny, with a high near 89. West southwest wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Wednesday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 67. West wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Thursday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 87. North northwest wind around 5 mph.

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494. RTSplayer 12:40 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
Check out this Sinkhole..ground water in Florida is going fast..rainy season we need you quick........................


Sick thing is, I'm pretty sure home owner's insurance doesn't cover that, and flood insurance doesn't cover it either unless it was caused by water.


Answers

Yup. No coverage.

Homeowners insurance covers anything that would not damage the home. LOL.
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495. WxGeekVA 1:00 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    


The entire arsenal of the U.S. and Russia... Fallout and nuclear winter... Happy Friday morning.... I guess.
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496. Grothar 1:02 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Has anyone else noticed the "Member Blogs" are not being updated. The latest one shows 14 hours ago. I know people have been making entries and there seems to be something wrong. How do we notify Admin there is a problem?
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497. AtHomeInTX 1:10 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Has anyone else noticed the "Member Blogs" are not being updated. The latest one shows 14 hours ago. I know people have been making entries and there seems to be something wrong. How do we notify Admin there is a problem?


I've noticed. But alas have no answers. (as usual) lol
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498. presslord 1:22 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Has anyone else noticed the "Member Blogs" are not being updated. The latest one shows 14 hours ago. I know people have been making entries and there seems to be something wrong. How do we notify Admin there is a problem?


Is it that they're not being updated? Or the time is not being updated? Jeff's blog also shows 14 hours...
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499. jeffs713 1:28 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
Smoke closes major road in Orange county...................

that looks more like fog to me. Especially considering the low angle of the sun, and how the hill easily rises out of it.
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500. jeffs713 1:30 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
Check out this Sinkhole..ground water in Florida is going fast..rainy season we need you quick........................

From what I remember about sinkholes... settling and foundation issues are caused by dry weather. Sinkholes are more often caused by excessively wet weather, as most sinkholes are related to underground cavern systems being eroded by flowing water. (after all, if they were caused by dry weather, why didn't Texas have massive sinkhole problems last year?)
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501. RitaEvac 1:36 PM GMT on May 04, 2012    
Quoting jeffs713:

From what I remember about sinkholes... settling and foundation issues are caused by dry weather. Sinkholes are more often caused by excessively wet weather, as most sinkholes are related to underground cavern systems being eroded by flowing water. (after all, if they were caused by dry weather, why didn't Texas have massive sinkhole problems last year?)


Remember seeing the roads buckling? and water line breaks? they still haven't fixed all the leaks yet




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