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Beryl dumping heavy rains; all-time May heat records set in MI, OH
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:55 PM GMT on May 29, 2012 +37
Tropical Depression Beryl continues to bring heavy rains to Northern Florida and Southern Georgia, but has begun to move northeast, and will be spreading heavy rains over coastal South Carolina today and North Carolina on Wednesday. Rains of 5 - 8 inches have been common over Northern Florida. These rains have caused numerous problems with street flooding, but no serious damage. The heaviest rains from Beryl so far have been to the southwest of the center, over Lafayette County, Florida, where 12.65" was measured as of 6:30 am EDT Tuesday near Midway. Beryl spawned one tornado on Monday, near Florida's St. Lucie Medical Center. The twister damaged two roofs and brought down trees and power lines. One swimmer is missing from Folly Beach, South Carolina, and a 19 year old man is missing and presumed drowned from swimming in rough surf in Daytona Beach, Florida. Before becoming a tropical cyclone, Beryl produced heavy rainfall over Cuba, especially Sancti Spíritus Province, where meteorologists reported more than 20 in (510 mm) of precipitation. The rains caused mudslides and flash floods, destroying 47 houses and damaging 1,109 more. Two people died attempting to cross flooded rivers in Cuba.


Figure 1. True-color MODIS satellite image of Beryl taken at 12:05 pm EDT May 28, 2012 by NASA's Terra satellite. At the time, Beryl was a tropical depression with winds of 35 mph.

Forecast for Beryl
Beryl will continue to spin and dump copious rains as it treks through Southern Georgia today, and coastal South Carolina and North Carolina on Wednesday. These rains will generally not be heavy enough to cause damaging flooding, since the region is under moderate to severe drought. When Beryl pops off the coast near the North Carolina/South Carolina border on Wednesday, wind shear will be low enough and ocean temperatures warm enough to allow re-intensification to a tropical storm. However, tropical-storm-force winds will probably be limited to the right-front side, over the ocean, and the coast of North Carolina will see winds no greater than 35 mph.


Figure 2. Estimated rainfall from Beryl from the Valdosta, Georgia radar.

July-like heat wave brings hottest May temperatures on record to Michigan, Ohio
A strong high pressure system anchored over the central U.S. brought more record-smashing May heat to much of the country on Monday. The heat was most notable in Southern Lower Michigan and Northern Ohio, where Detroit (95°F), Flint (93°), Cleveland (92°F), and Toledo, Ohio (96°) tied or set records for their hottest temperature ever recorded in May. On Saturday, at least nine airports in the Midwest had their hottest May day on record, and 58 out of 456 U.S. airports set daily high temperature records. On Sunday, at least sixteen airports in the Midwest had their hottest May day on record, and 68 out of 456 U.S. airports set daily high temperature records. Eight airports in the Western U.S. set daily coldest temperature records on Sunday; no airports have set an all-time coldest May temperature record in the U.S. this month. Temperatures 5 - 10°F above average are expected over portions of New England today, but the May 2012 heat wave is pretty much over for the U.S.

Jeff Masters
Beryl's Rain Bands (SunsetSailor)
Beryl's about 75 mi SSE from us and still off shore and on schedule to move over land sometime after mid night. We're getting steady 20-30 mph winds.
Beryl's Rain Bands
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251. BrickellBreeze 5:34 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting sluggosteve:


Shows you the variability with these systems....just 100 miles to the south in southern Osceola county we have only received about an inch of rain from Beryl and are at 3.81 for the month.


You should be able to get some rain with that rain and coming in.
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252. gator23 5:35 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
I see no model support for any sort of development in the Caribbean, increased moisture sure and that's what we're getting. But once again, I will repeat that the area of convection being seen in the western Caribbean is nothing but an upper level trough from N. Florida to the Yucatan, and is generating a large area of diffluence alof and a surface trough that is causing these thunderstorms. There is nothing on the surface being shown and there is a very low chance of development.. however if these thunderstorms hold together into next week it is something we should defiantly watch for development but as of right now there is no model support, shear is way to high for fragile monsoonal development.


As noted there is some model support
WRF
NOGAPS
CMC

Even if you discount the CMC the WRF is a very good model
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253. wunderkidcayman 5:37 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting gator23:


As noted there is much model supports
WRF
NOGAPS
CMC

Even if you discount the CMC the WRF is a very good model

true
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254. CybrTeddy 5:37 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting gator23:


As noted there is much model support
WRF
NOGAPS
CMC

Even if you discount the CMC the WRF is a very good model


NOGAPS is the least reliable global model.

Until the ECMWF and GFS spin it up, I won't pay much attention to it.
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255. Grothar 5:38 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Wile the system in the Caribbean looks good, and has for a number of days, it is not likely to develop anytime soon. There is very little low level convergence. Wind shear is very high in the area and is expected to stay that way until the end of the week. If the wind shear begins to relax and additional moisture can fill in the Western Caribbean in about 5 or six days, we could find development. It is persisting though, therefore, it could have sufficient energy to maintain itself for a few more days.



Current low level convergence:



Current upper leverl divergence:



Current wind shear:






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256. ncstorm 5:38 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
I went to research and find what Dr. Masters considers a reliable model back in 2011..I found this:

"The models are quite enthusiastic about developing 96L into a tropical depression, and our top four reliable models for forecasting genesis–the ECMWF, GFS, UKMET, and NOGAPS"

but I also found him stating the NHC dosent consider the Nogaps a reliable model anymore but he never said if he agrees or not..

I believe all the models have failed many times in their predictions as to why they should only be used as guidance only
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257. HurrikanEB 5:40 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Tornado watch up for new york and vermont...

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
-- Changed Discussion --
TORNADO WATCH #313 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 PM FOR THE ENTIRE FORECAST
AREA EXCEPT ULSTER...DUCTHESS AND LITCHFIELD. IN COORDINATION WITH
THE STORM PREDICTION CENTER MUCH OF THE FORECAST WAS UPGRADED TO
MODERATE RISK.

MORNING SOUNDING IS LOCKED AND LOADED FOR HI END SLIGHT RISK/MOD
SEVERE EVENT....CAPES 3000 J/KG, SWEAT 301, 0-3KM STM REL HEL 141
M2/S2. EHI 1-2 SOUTH 2-4 NORTH..LI DROP TO -11.

SHEAR RELATIVELY UNIDIRECTIONAL...AND HT FALLS ASSOC WITH
APPROACH HING JET BEGINNING TO IMPACT W PTNS OF RGN...BUT BEST JET
DYNAMICS WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL BULK OF EVENT IS OVER...SPARING US
FROM THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

MAIN THREATS WILL BE DAMAGING WINDS...LARGE HAIL...AND WITH PWATS
OF 1.6 INCHES HEAVY RAIN. FORTUNATELY THEY WILL BE MOVING 30+
KNOTS.
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258. gator23 5:41 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


NOGAPS is the least reliable global model.

Until the ECMWF and GFS spin it up, I won't pay much attention to it.

CMC is the least reliable but to your point yes the NOGAPS is not that reliable however you said there is NO model support which is factually incorrect.
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259. TomTaylor 5:43 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
I see no model support for any sort of development in the Caribbean, increased moisture sure and that's what we're getting. But once again, I will repeat that the area of convection being seen in the western Caribbean is nothing but an upper level trough from N. Florida to the Yucatan, and is generating a large area of diffluence alof and a surface trough that is causing these thunderstorms. There is nothing on the surface being shown and there is a very low chance of development.. however if these thunderstorms hold together into next week it is something we should defiantly watch for development but as of right now there is no model support, shear is way to high for fragile monsoonal development.
exactly...Just upper divergence at work, shear is too high, no low level vorticity signature, and no support from reliable models for now.
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260. Hurricanes305 5:43 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Wile the system in the Caribbean looks good, and has for a number of days, it is not likely to develop anytime soon. There is very little low level convergence. Wind shear is very high in the area and is expected to stay that way until the end of the week. If the wind shear begins to relax and additional moisture can fill in the Western Caribbean in about 5 or six days, we could find development. It is persisting though, therefore, it could have sufficient energy to maintain itself for a few more days.



Current low level convergence:



Current upper leverl divergence:



Current wind shear:









System in the Caribbean has more energy than when Beryl was an invest in that area.
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261. wunderkidcayman 5:44 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
GFS does kida have it mainly as an open trough and shower activity moves it off to S Fl by day 3-day 4 but it still has it

Quoting CybrTeddy:


NOGAPS is the least reliable global model.

Until the ECMWF and GFS spin it up, I won't pay much attention to it.
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262. obxlocal 5:45 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
How is Beryl looking?
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263. RitaEvac 5:45 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Waiting in TX for ignition of storms to fire on radar this afternoon, should be closer to Houston area this evening
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264. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:46 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting obxlocal:
How is Beryl looking?

Healthy, considering.

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265. TomTaylor 5:47 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting gator23:


As noted there is some model support
WRF
NOGAPS
CMC

Even if you discount the CMC the WRF is a very good model
It is known to have convective feedback issues, causing it to spin up most disturbances or over intensify existing storms.

Regardless, these models you guys are citing show one to two closed isobars...thats really not impressive considering most of those models are notoriously trigger happy.
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266. GTcooliebai 5:47 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
GFS does kida have it mainly as an open trough and shower activity moves it off to S Fl by day 3-day 4 but it still has it

I can agree with that just an ordinary low pressure system riding along the southwest flow ahead of a shortwave trough.
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267. CybrTeddy 5:47 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Don't worry, she'll hold together!

Baby please hear me hold together.


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268. nigel20 5:47 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Wile the system in the Caribbean looks good, and has for a number of days, it is not likely to develop anytime soon. There is very little low level convergence. Wind shear is very high in the area and is expected to stay that way until the end of the week. If the wind shear begins to relax and additional moisture can fill in the Western Caribbean in about 5 or six days, we could find development. It is persisting though, therefore, it could have sufficient energy to maintain itself for a few more days.



Current low level convergence:



Current upper leverl divergence:



Current wind shear:







How are you doing Grothar...is it because of the low terrain why Beryl didn't die off over land?
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269. Jedkins01 5:49 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Don't worry, she'll hold together!

Baby please hear me hold together.





It looks like this one really will, that line is strong and is progressing southeast much faster than the last so I don't think it will stall to the north of Tampa Bay like the last one, granted we probably won't get 30 to 4 inches like our neighbors to the north, but if it holds a couple inches is certainly possible.
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270. wunderkidcayman 5:49 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Hurricanes305:


System in the Caribbean has more energy than when Beryl was an invest in that area.

very true plus shear should start to lower by 48 hours
(notice the Dark blue and purples(lower shear) are comimng back while in 24 houes you would see the light blues and even green-blue(high shear)
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271. txjac 5:50 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Waiting in TX for ignition of storms to fire on radar this afternoon, should be closer to Houston area this evening


Let's hope so woman! Bring it on
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272. FLWeatherFreak91 5:51 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Nasty squall line coming in. Let's see if it actually can hold together. Looks like I'm going to get walloped.
This one won't fall apart and it has plenty of momentum to make it through all of the immediate bay area.... hopefully the southern progression will slow slightly to allow for higher rainfall totals.
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273. Hurricanes305 5:51 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting obxlocal:
How is Beryl looking?


It still has it's circulation intact but hanging on to tropical depression status. It starts to head off northeast into the Atlantic. It could restrengthen as it cross over the gulf stream to tropical storm status before affecting the Carolinas by Wednesday night.
IT has caused major flooding including isolated reports of 20 inches of rain.
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274. stormpetrol 5:52 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Some of the same statements were made about the former Caribbean disturbance which was later tagged 94L with a near 0% chance for development which went on to become Beryl. This disturbance though lacking a circulation center is more organized convectively than 94L ever was in that area, if it can maintain itself for another 2-3 days it is not impossible we could see another TS the first week of June, just my take.
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275. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:52 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

very true plus shear should start to lower by 48 hours
(notice the Dark blue and purples(lower shear) are comimng back while in 24 houes you would see the light blues and even green-blue(high shear)

Here we go again...
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276. GeorgiaStormz 5:53 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
The Tampa shield is starting up:
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277. wunderkidcayman 5:54 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
also I do not trust the GFS for two reasons #1 it has a long history of being trigger happy a week or 2 before hand and kills it in the middle but when it is just couple of days away GFS brings it back
#2 GFS have just gotten upgraded and I am not too sure on how well the new GFS is taking it
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278. CybrTeddy 5:55 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:



It looks like this one really will, that line is strong and is progressing southeast much faster than the last so I don't think it will stall to the north of Tampa Bay like the last one, granted we probably won't get 30 to 4 inches like our neighbors to the north, but if it holds a couple inches is certainly possible.


I don't know, those thunderstorms cells are starting to look weaker frame by frame. I don't think it's going to happen.
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279. HoustonTxGal 5:55 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
So, what does everyone think the system down in the Carib. Is gonna do?
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280. stormpetrol 5:55 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    


This would suggest some sort a circulation developing in the GOH.
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281. lobdelse81 5:56 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting nigel20:

How are you doing Grothar...is it because of the low terrain why Beryl didn't die off over land?

It is probably also due to its proximity to the Okefenokee Swamp, which means there may be some moisture for Beryl to still maintain itself, that's just my guess.
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282. GeorgiaStormz 5:56 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
So, what does everyone think the system down in the Carib. Is gonna do?


die
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283. Hurricanes305 5:56 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting TomTaylor:
It is known to have convective feedback issues, causing it to spin up most disturbances or over intensify existing storms.

Regardless, these models you guys are citing show one to two closed isobars...thats really not impressive considering most of those models are notoriously trigger happy.


Its in its early stages, there is no real vorticity to work with for now. These models can be off and on with systems so just keep an eye out on it.
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284. wunderkidcayman 5:57 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Some of the same statements were made about the former Caribbean disturbance which was later tagged 94L with a near 0% chance for development which went on to become Beryl. This disturbance though lacking a circulation center is more organized convectively than 94L ever was in that area, if it can maintain itself for another 2-3 days it is not impossible we could see another TS the first week of June, just my take.

true, very true

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Here we go again...

no it just you that all
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285. nigel20 5:57 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Moderate to heavy showers approaching Barbados

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286. Hurricanes305 5:59 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
So, what does everyone think the system down in the Carib. Is gonna do?


Seeing some model support but conditions aren't favorable in the short term. however, things will change later on this week. Monitor it as the week progresses.
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287. nigel20 5:59 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting lobdelse81:

It is probably also due to its proximity to the Okefenokee Swamp, which means there may be some moisture for Beryl to still maintain itself, that's just my guess.

Thanks for your input!
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288. Jedkins01 6:01 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I don't know, those thunderstorms cells are starting to look weaker frame by frame. I don't think it's going to happen.



Seriously, what the heck is wrong with this area, it doesn't make sense...
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289. CybrTeddy 6:02 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:



Seriously, what the heck is wrong with this area, it doesn't make sense...


I'm starting to wonder if there's an actual meteorological reason why this keeps on happen vs. a huge coincidence.
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290. HoustonTxGal 6:02 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
While we here in south Texas could use rain....we don't need the tropical systems...but I guess it is the nature of the beast when you live near the water.
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291. txjac 6:02 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
So, what does everyone think the system down in the Carib. Is gonna do?


Howdy neighbor, from Houston myself.

You picked a good time to ask that question as long as you have time to watch it play out. There are a few on here that see signs that they think are favorable for slow development ...and there are others that think it will not develop. There is a lot of back and forth with many charts being displayed that are being used to support or deny development.

I'm finding it a good learning opprotunity as I'm a novice at all of this and find myself just listening (watching) and attempting to learn and understand.

I only hope that all making their points keep their responses to each other respectful. Makes it more enjoyable to learn.
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292. WeatherNerdPR 6:03 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:



Seriously, what the heck is wrong with this area, it doesn't make sense...

You must have upset the weather gods. It's the only logical explanation.
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293. pottery 6:03 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I'm starting to wonder if there's an actual meteorological reason why this keeps on happen vs. a huge coincidence.

Have you considered the 'shower curtain' factor ?
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294. GTcooliebai 6:04 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Wherever this line sets up will get "training" rains:

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295. Jedkins01 6:04 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I'm starting to wonder if there's an actual meteorological reason why this keeps on happen vs. a huge coincidence.



I'm pretty sure there isn't one, I've seen way too many lines this come through in this type of atmosphere and they normally always hold together.


I still think this should make it in, it has that feed of convection off to the west as well even if the initial cells can't hold.
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296. NICycloneChaser 6:04 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
CMC, 96 hours. No closed isobars.



European, 96 hours. No closed isobars.



GFS, 96 hours. No closed isobars.



NOGAPS, 96 hours. One closed isobar.



This isn't model support. It's just not. If it develops, I'll happily eat my words, but when you have no model support, I just can't see development happening.
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297. CybrTeddy 6:05 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
Quoting pottery:

Have you considered the 'shower curtain' factor ?


That's for Miami and they've been getting loads of shields.

Tampa's shields really need to notch it down a bit.
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298. wunderkidcayman 6:05 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
also look at this low level convergence was bearly there 24 hours ago just only two small spots
24 hours ago


now it has grown some through out the past 24 hours now more is there however not under the convection I say it is growing give it some time and let it grow it will go under the convection soon
now as of 15Z
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299. intampa 6:06 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
just a little.. and i mean little ... sprinkle in riverview just east of tampa on I75. come on rain bands hold together to give us some rain...
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300. NJcat3cane 6:06 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
how many hours has beryl been over land for now?
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301. HoustonTxGal 6:06 PM GMT on May 29, 2012    
I put more faith in this blog and the info I gleen from it than most other sources. WU got me through Katrina when I lived on the MS gulf coast, Rita and Ike. As soon as there is even a hint of a storm, I am on here watching and learning.
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