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Unprecedented May heat in Greenland; update on 2011 Greenland ice melt
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:53 PM GMT on May 31, 2012 +40
The record books for Greenland's climate were re-written on Tuesday, when the mercury hit 24.8°C (76.6°F) at Narsarsuaq, Greenland, on the southern coast. According to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, this is the hottest temperature on record in Greenland for May, and is just 0.7°C (1.3°F) below the hottest temperature ever measured in Greenland. The previous May record was 22.4°C (72.3°F) at Kangerlussuaq (called Sondre Stormfjord in Danish) on May 31, 1991. The 25.2°C at Narsarsuaq on June 22, 1957 is the only June temperature measured in Greenland warmer than yesterday's 24.8°C reading. Wunderground's extremes page shows that the all-time warmest temperature record for Greenland is 25.5°C (77.9°F) set on July 26, 1990. The exceptional warmth this week was caused by the combination of an intense ridge of high pressure and a local foehn wind, said the Danish Meteorological Institute. The unusual May heat has extended to Scotland, which had its hottest May temperature on record on May 25 at Achnagart: 29.3°C (85°F). Greenland's Narsarsuaq has seen a string of 3 consecutive days over 70°F this week--the 3rd, 7th, and 12th warmest days there since record keeping began in 1941. The ridge of high pressure responsible is expected to stay in place several more days, bringing additional 70° days over Southern Greenland. The warm May temperatures could be setting the stage for a big Greenland melt season this summer--the International Research Institute for Climate and Society (IRI) is predicting a 50 - 60% that the southern 2/3 of Greenland will experience above-average temperatures this summer. They forecast just a 10 - 15% chance of below-average temperatures.


Figure 1. Difference between the number of melt days in 2011 and the average number of melt days during the period 1979 - 2010. Large sections of the island experienced twenty more days with melting conditions than average. Image credit: Arctic Report Card

Why Greenland is important
If the massive icecap on Greenland were to melt, global sea level would rise 7 meters (23 ft). Temperatures in Greenland are predicted to rise 3°C by 2100, to levels similar to those present during that warm period 120,000 years ago. During that period, roughly half of the Greenland ice sheet melted, increasing sea level by 2.2 - 3.4 meters (7.2 - 11.2 ft.) However, the 2007 IPCC report expects melting of the Greenland ice sheet to occur over about a 1,000 year period, delaying much of the expected sea level rise for many centuries. While Greenland's ice isn't going to be melting completely and catastrophically flooding low-lying areas of the earth in the next few decades (sea level is only rising about 3 mm per year or 1.2 inches per decade at present), the risk later this century needs to be taken seriously. Higher sea levels will cause increased erosion, salt water intrusion, and storm surge damage in coastal areas, in addition to a loss of barrier formations such as islands, sand bars, and reefs that would normally protect coastal zones from battering by waves and wind. Additionally, coastal zones are sites of incredible economic and agricultural activity, which would also be negatively affected by higher sea levels. Currently, melting ice from Greenland is thought to cause about 0.7 mm/year of global sea level rise, which is about 20 - 25% of the global total, according to an international research group led by the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences, in an article published the latest issue of Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 1 June 2012. In 2007, the IPCC estimated that Greenland ice melt was responsible for only 10 - 15% of the total global sea level rise. Ice loss in Greenland is accelerating, and if current ice loss trends continue for the next ten years, Greenland's contribution to sea level rise will double to 1.4 mm/yr by 2022. The increased ice loss in Greenland is being driven by a combination of warmer air temperatures, warmer ocean temperatures, and loss of Arctic sea ice. Ocean temperatures surrounding Southern Greenland have increased by 1 - 2°C since 1990 (figure at right.)

Figure 2. Monthly unsmoothed values of the total mass (in gigatons, Gt), of the Greenland ice sheet from the GRACE satellites. On the horizontal axis, each year begins on 1 January. Each small + symbol is a monthly value. Between 2003 - 2009, Greenland lost an average of 250 gigatons of ice per year. In 2011, the loss was 70% greater than that. Image credit: Arctic Report Card

Update on the 2011 Greenland melt season
According to the 2011 Arctic Report Card, it was another very warm year in Greenland in 2011, which led to substantial melting of the ice. Here are some of the highlights from the report:

1) The area and duration of melting at the surface of the Greenland ice sheet in summer 2011 were the third highest since 1979.

2) Increased surface melting and below average summer snowfall in recent years has made the icecap steadily darker. In 2011, the icecap had the lowest reflectivity (albedo) of any year since satellite measurements of reflectivity began in 2000.

3) The area of glaciers that empty into the sea continued to decrease, though at less than half the rate of the previous 10 years.

4) Total ice sheet mass loss in 2011 was 70% larger than the 2003 - 2009 average annual loss rate of -250 gigatons per year. According to satellite gravity data obtained since 2002, ice sheet mass loss is accelerating.

Resources:
Wunderground's Greenland page.
Wunderground's sea level rise page.
Danish Meteorological Institute's extremes page for Greenland.

Jeff Masters
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251. Patrap 7:21 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
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252. hydrus 7:24 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Things getting busy over Africa..
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253. ncstorm 7:24 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
People who dont agree with the "agenda" are called fools and uneducated from the "so called respected" bloggers on here and they call other people trolls? Im really out this time!
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254. PedleyCA 7:26 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting hydrus:
2 please....Someone said never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it..It does apply to these trolls..If I slaughter one, I end up getting banned.


My favorite is "Never try and teach a pig how to fly." "It's a waste of time and it annoys the Pig."
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255. MTWX 7:26 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Also just wanted to apologize to anyone trying to use the Columbus, MS NEXRAD. We will have it back operational as soon as we can!

Message Date: May 30 2012 22:15:10

To All Users: UPDATE --- The KGWX Radar power supply parts are on order so will
be down until at least Friday and perhaps as late as Monday. EC
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256. weatherh98 7:28 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting ncstorm:
People who dont agree with the "agenda" are called fools and uneducated from the "so called respected" bloggers on here and they call other people trolls? Im really out this time!


come to the weather chat
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257. gordydunnot 7:31 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Lookout 242 if we go into Theology here were all going to get banned.Next it will be politics, oh I shudder to think.Little spin coming of N. Honduras.
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258. FtMyersgal 7:31 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:


Dont attack anyone for any reason until its established your for real


Who is the judge of whether a blogger is for real? You? Me? Admin? Just use ignore
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259. Patrap 7:36 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
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260. ScottLincoln 7:37 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Caner:


Naw, i don't believe i will.

If you can't see a pronounced cycle of rising and falling temps and CO2 levels external to the influence of car engines, there, i don't believe you will see anything.


You can't see a cycle on that either, as the resolution of that graph - and the associated uncertainty bars - are not conducive to even eyeballing cycles. The fact that you think a scientist should do so speaks volumes.

If you ever decide to educate yourself in areas of climate science and would like some suggestions, I'm sure many (including myself) would be glad to help.
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261. Methurricanes 7:37 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
On a somber note, this is the 1 year anniversery of the Springfield, Massachusetts tornado, it was the deadliest Tornado in New England since the Worcester, Massachusetts tornado in the mid-50s.
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262. DocNDswamp 7:38 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Patrap -

Coming at ya... severe tstm hit here 2:05, had hail to 3/4" for about 3 minutes, over inch rain in 20 min, wind gust peak on my 11' height anemometer (lower than surrounding roofs) hit 36.5 mph so imagine adjusting for 10 meter / 33' standard might be near 55-60 mph range... leaves / limbs down all over... And no, no warning from KLIX on this one for Bayou Cane / Terrebonne before hit...

Heads up, bud...
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263. TropicalAnalystwx13 7:40 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
8 hours 20 minutes.
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264. Patrap 7:41 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting DocNDswamp:
Patrap -

Coming at ya... severe tstm hit here 2:05, had hail to 3/4" for about 3 minutes, over inch rain in 20 min, wind gust peak on my 11' height anemometer (lower than surrounding roofs) hit 36.5 mph so imagine adjusting for 10 meter / 33' standard might be near 55-60 mph range... leaves / limbs down all over... And no, no warning from KLIX on this one for Bayou Cane / Terrebonne before hit...

Heads up, bud...


Roger that Doc..Im a watching that Line coming up.

Thanx for the heads up, stay safe.






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265. Tropicsweatherpr 7:42 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
8 hours 20 minutes.


Link
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266. gordydunnot 7:43 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
It's getting nastier by the frame Patrap.
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267. weatherh98 7:44 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Patrap:


Roger that Doc..Im a watching that Line coming up.

Thanx for the heads up, stay safe.








BRING IT ON
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268. CybrTeddy 7:44 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


I was just going to post this, funny! The high is very "low".





BAD position to have the high in for hurricane season.

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269. Grothar 7:44 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
West Pacific and Indian Ocean temps are really high.

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270. BigTuna 7:45 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Patrap:


Roger that Doc..Im a watching that Line coming up.

Thanx for the heads up, stay safe.
I always tell people that during my 20-odd years living in Metairie/Mandeville it would rain every summer day at 3:30. It looks like the train is running right on time!
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271. Some1Has2BtheRookie 7:45 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Caner:


Yeah, I keep hearing this myth...

Every year that we have unusually low numbers of hurricanes, it's the fault of climate change.

Every year we have unusually high numbers of hurricanes, it's the fault of climate change.

Every year we have average numbers of hurricanes, it's the fault of climate change.

Every time we set a new record, it's the fault of climate change.

We used to just call them low, high, average and new records, before it was climate change... don't know if you are old enough to remember that.


Should you believe it to only be a myth then all you need to do is to disprove the AGWT. When you are able to do this then you will certainly win a Nobel Peace Prize for disproving the Laws of Physics, Chemistry and everything else mankind has learned through Science. Unless you are able to do this, then I suggest that perhaps you are believing in a myth ( that the AGWT is hoax to strip mankind of all of its independence, wealth and resources ) that is not based on knowledge that has been verified through testing and observations.

Confirm for us that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas.

Confirm for us that mankind's activities do no emit tons/day of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Confirm for us that mankind's activities do not destroy sizable amounts of Earth's natural carbon sinks.

When it comes down to tropical weather discussions, confirm for us that global climate does not impact tropical weather and that tropical weather can be fulled understood only as an entity upon itself.
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272. gordydunnot 7:45 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
I don't know looks like an Indian behind that line now. Might be time to duck.
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273. weatherh98 7:46 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting DocNDswamp:
Patrap -

Coming at ya... severe tstm hit here 2:05, had hail to 3/4" for about 3 minutes, over inch rain in 20 min, wind gust peak on my 11' height anemometer (lower than surrounding roofs) hit 36.5 mph so imagine adjusting for 10 meter / 33' standard might be near 55-60 mph range... leaves / limbs down all over... And no, no warning from KLIX on this one for Bayou Cane / Terrebonne before hit...

Heads up, bud...


Ilive on the northshore dont look to good for me either
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274. Patrap 7:51 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Finally.

TONE

054
WUUS54 KLIX 311950
SVRLIX
LAC063-105-312015-
/O.NEW.KLIX.SV.W.0109.120531T1950Z-120531T2015Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
250 PM CDT THU MAY 31 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
EAST CENTRAL LIVINGSTON PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
SOUTHERN TANGIPAHOA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HAMMOND...

* UNTIL 315 PM CDT

* AT 248 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED 7 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF SPRINGFIELD...OR 14 MILES SOUTHWEST OF HAMMOND...AND
MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
ROBERT AND PONCHATOULA

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM. IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH...PREPARE
IMMEDIATELY FOR DAMAGING WINDS...DESTRUCTIVE HAIL...AND DEADLY CLOUD
TO GROUND LIGHTNING. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE TO A SHELTER...
PREFERABLY INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 600 PM CDT
THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.



LAT...LON 3033 9029 3032 9044 3034 9048 3031 9053
3028 9072 3046 9074 3055 9025
TIME...MOT...LOC 1950Z 264DEG 20KT 3038 9062
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275. Patrap 7:53 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
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276. atl134 7:55 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting RitaEvac:
According to the Navy.....






I'm really confused. Submerged when? Utah is completely underwater but Salt Lake City is at 4200ft of elevation.
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277. DocNDswamp 7:56 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Yep Pat (and weatherh98), knew you'd be keeping eye on 'em, very strong tstms along the line coming across SE LA... And yeah, well aware we've been under a severe tstms watch - this one on the tail end of more notable convection above, rather exploded on top of us, the lack of warning I mentioned couldn't have been possible... Wow, the VIL presentation indicated up near 55-60 kg with the hail...

In the break now...
Safe wishes back atcha!
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278. weatherh98 7:59 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Patrap:


Its going around the lake
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279. jmag2424 8:01 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Hi to all! Been lurking here for several years and enjoy all of the helpful information that everyone provides during hurricane season. Looking forward to the upcoming season and will be checking in daily for any information on any storms that may become a threat to the gulf coast area. Thanks again!!!
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280. Grothar 8:03 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
8 hours 20 minutes.


I hope you aren't baking a cake. I'm not sure, but I think it could be a little overdone.
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281. PedleyCA 8:03 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


Link


So were using Eastern time on this and not GMT?
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282. Patrap 8:03 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    

324
WFUS54 KLIX 311955
TORLIX
LAC063-091-105-312030-
/O.NEW.KLIX.TO.W.0040.120531T1955Z-120531T2030Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
255 PM CDT THU MAY 31 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTH CENTRAL LIVINGSTON PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
SOUTHEASTERN ST. HELENA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
WEST CENTRAL TANGIPAHOA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF AMITE...

* UNTIL 330 PM CDT

* AT 252 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 6 MILES SOUTH OF
MONTPELIER...OR 12 MILES SOUTHWEST OF AMITE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT
15 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
INDEPENDENCE AND ROSELAND

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER
PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE
BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE
BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM
WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 PM CDT
THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI. A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 600 PM CDT
THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.



LAT...LON 3083 9043 3054 9038 3048 9067 3063 9078
TIME...MOT...LOC 1955Z 238DEG 15KT 3060 9063
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283. HadesGodWyvern 8:03 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #5
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04
3:00 AM JST June 1 2012
=================================

SUBJECT: Tropical Depression In Sea East Of The Philippines

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression (1004 hPa) located at 13.0N 127.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving northwest at 9 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0

Forecast and Intensity
=========================

24 HRS: 15.7N 125.8E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)
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284. gordydunnot 8:04 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Pat at the NHC radar I believe they just put up a tornado warning for just north of I 10
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285. Grothar 8:04 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


BAD position to have the high in for hurricane season.



I hope it moves.
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286. Patrap 8:05 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting DocNDswamp:
Yep Pat (and weatherh98), knew you'd be keeping eye on 'em, very strong tstms along the line coming across SE LA... And yeah, well aware we've been under a severe tstms watch - this one on the tail end of more notable convection above, rather exploded on top of us, the lack of warning I mentioned couldn't have been possible... Wow, the VIL presentation indicated up near 55-60 kg with the hail...

In the break now...
Safe wishes back atcha!



Didnt know dis either till you mentioned it jus now.
Severe Thunderstorm Watch
Statement as of 3:03 PM CDT on May 31, 2012

Severe Thunderstorm Watch 330 remains in effect until 900 PM CDT
for the following locations


La
. Louisiana parishes included are

Jefferson Lafourche Orleans
Plaquemines St. Bernard St. Charles
St. John The Baptist St. Tammany Tangipahoa
Washington

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287. gordydunnot 8:06 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Should have known.Nevermind
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288. Patrap 8:06 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    


SEL0

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 330
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
255 PM CDT THU MAY 31 2012

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
SOUTHEAST AND EAST CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI
COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 255 PM UNTIL
900 PM CDT.

HAIL TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70
MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 55
STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 55 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA TO 35 MILES WEST NORTHWEST OF MERIDIAN
MISSISSIPPI. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE
ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU0).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 327...WW 328...WW 329...

DISCUSSION...SEVERAL ORGANIZED BANDS OF STRONG/SEVERE STORMS ARE
PROGRESSING EWD ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL MS AND SRN LA. THESE STORMS
WILL MOVE INTO A MODERATELY UNSTABLE DOWNSTREAM ENVIRONMENT WITH
MLCAPE OF 1500-2000 J/KG. DEEP LAYER SHEAR IN THE LOWEST 8 KM IS
SUFFICIENT TO MAINTAIN MULTICELL STRUCTURES WITH STRONGER CELLS
CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALIZED DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND OCCASIONAL
HAIL.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
TO 1.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60
KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM
MOTION VECTOR 24020.


...WEISS
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289. Some1Has2BtheRookie 8:07 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Something interesting a few weeks back in my neighborhood during the evening. Was on my bike riding in subdivision which is concrete with houses, and there is a large 4 acre or so green space just by the entrance of my subdivision. It was hot as usual but as I rode towards the green space it was like a rush of cold air hitting me, it was amazing what the open space grass did to the air temperature. In fact I went back and forth over and over from inside the subdivision to the green space to feel the massive difference in air temps it was unbelievable. This is on a micro scale, just think of the massive scale of development of cities....


Concrete and development IS a major influence with the urban heat island affect going on. This, is why we are in a warming world.




Is this not in itself anthropogenic warming?
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290. Patrap 8:07 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    

069
WUUS54 KLIX 312006
SVRLIX
MSC147-312030-
/O.NEW.KLIX.SV.W.0110.120531T2006Z-120531T2030Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
306 PM CDT THU MAY 31 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN WALTHALL COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 330 PM CDT

* AT 301 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED 7 MILES
WEST OF SALEM...OR 14 MILES EAST OF MCCOMB...AND MOVING EAST AT 25
MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
TYLERTOWN

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM. IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH...PREPARE
IMMEDIATELY FOR DAMAGING WINDS...DESTRUCTIVE HAIL...AND DEADLY CLOUD
TO GROUND LIGHTNING. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE TO A SHELTER...
PREFERABLY INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 PM CDT
THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI. A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 600 PM CDT
THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.



LAT...LON 3133 9007 3134 9004 3118 9002 3117 9000
3114 9000 3114 8994 3112 8993 3111 9026
3130 9026 3134 9008
TIME...MOT...LOC 2006Z 258DEG 22KT 3122 9020
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291. Patrap 8:08 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
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292. Jedkins01 8:08 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
The rain event for Central and South Florida I believe is being under advertised somewhat, and it looks like the heaviest rainfall from this could be for all the area that didn't get much from Beryl, very good news!


PWAT's will increase to between 2.0 and 2.3 inches, this combined with the favorable quadrant of a jet streak for widespread lift and increasing instability as well as the approaching cold front are all great signs for significant rainfall and thunderstorms for Central and South Florida, especially the coastal areas.
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293. OrchidGrower 8:09 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Any significance to the ITCZ activity in the eastern half of the Atlantic? I think I see plenty of faint clouds near the westernmost one, indicating stable, descending air; but to me the zone does look rather active.

T.I.A.
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294. Patrap 8:09 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Dont like to see that Line "fingering forward".



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295. aspectre 8:10 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
34 OldLeatherneck: ...Dr. Masters mentioned that Greenland lost 250 Gigatonnes of ice. When you consider that each Gigatonnne is 2.2 Trillion gallons, thats a lot of water!!!!

A Gigatonne is 2.2trillion pounds of water. A gallon would contain ~8.33 pounds of water.
A tonne is mass-equivalent to 1cu.metre or 1000litres of water. There are ~0.264172gallons per litre.
So a tonne of water would be ~264gallons, and a Gigatonne would be ~264billion gallons

That 250Gigatonnes is derived from an accelerating trend averaged over 7years, starting with a ~75Gigatonne loss between 2003 and 2004.
Greenland's 2010to2011 ice loss was ~425Gigatonnes.
A Gigatonne of glacial ice contains a cubic kilometre of water.

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296. VAbeachhurricanes 8:13 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting MTWX:
Also just wanted to apologize to anyone trying to use the Columbus, MS NEXRAD. We will have it back operational as soon as we can!

Message Date: May 30 2012 22:15:10

To All Users: UPDATE --- The KGWX Radar power supply parts are on order so will
be down until at least Friday and perhaps as late as Monday. EC


Why are you apologizing? did you break it? hahaha
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297. gordydunnot 8:13 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Yep Jed if you put the RGB Satellite in motion you'll see the spin coming of Honduras is going to get close to Tampa, I think. But looking at radar today as in the past Tampa has one helluva shield up.
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298. CybrTeddy 8:17 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:
The rain event for Central and South Florida I believe is being under advertised somewhat, and it looks like the heaviest rainfall from this could be for all the area that didn't get much from Beryl, very good news!


PWAT's will increase to between 2.0 and 2.3 inches, this combined with the favorable quadrant of a jet streak for widespread lift and increasing instability as well as the approaching cold front are all great signs for significant rainfall and thunderstorms for Central and South Florida, especially the coastal areas.


I'll believe it when I see it. I don't care if they're forecasting 100% chance of rain even.
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299. ScottLincoln 8:20 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Is this not in itself anthropogenic warming?


The urban heat island effect and position of land-based thermometers has been looked into time and time again, and been shown to cause only a marginal affect on temperatures. In fact, analysis by NOAA shows that thermometer ranked as "poor" in independent analysis by skeptics were shown to bias results colder rather than warmer.

Even if the urban heat island effect were having a major influence on the warming trend, it is caused by human activities, and thus would be an anthropogenic forcing.
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300. MTWX 8:22 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Why are you apologizing? did you break it? hahaha


No I didn't, but we had AC issues over the long weekend which stressed the equipment, so in turn, one of the power supplies failed.
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301. VAbeachhurricanes 8:22 PM GMT on May 31, 2012    
Quoting ScottLincoln:


The urban heat island effect and position of land-based thermometers has been looked into time and time again, and been shown to cause only a marginal affect on temperatures. In fact, analysis by NOAA shows that thermometer ranked as "poor" in independent analysis by skeptics were shown to bias results colder rather than warmer.

Even if the urban heat island effect were having a major influence on the warming trend, it is caused by human activities, and thus would be an anthropogenic forcing.


That why we need to just build some gigantic mirrors, put them in the Sahara, then BOOM. problem solves we are all millionaires.
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