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Little change to TD 7; 93L may develop off the coast of Africa
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2012 +27
Tropical Depression Seven continues westward across the central tropical Atlantic with little change in appearance. Looking remarkably like the tropical depression that became Tropical Storm Ernesto last week, TD 7 has a limited region of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. A large amount of dry air to the west and north is visible on water vapor satellite loops, and this dry air is interfering with TD 7's heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a light 5 - 10 knots, which is favorable for intensification. Ocean temperatures are 26.5°C, which is a bit on the cool side, but these temperatures are 0.5° warmer than on Thursday. Winds at the Middle Atlantic buoy 41041 peaked at 29 mph, gusting to 38 mph, at 1:50 am EDT this Friday morning, when the center of TD 7 passed about 40 miles to the south. TD 7 will pass about 60 miles south of buoy 41040 near midnight tonight. The first hurricane hunter mission into TD 7 is scheduled for Saturday morning.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of TD 7.

Forecast for TD 7
TD 7 formed about 400 miles east-northeast of where Ernesto became a tropical depression, as seen on our wundermap. Atmospheric and oceanic conditions are currently quite similar to what Ernesto experienced, and I expect TD 7 will struggle with dry air like Ernesto did. The SHIPS model predicts that shear will remain light through tonight, then rise to the moderate range on Saturday, when the storm will encounter upper-level southwesterly winds associated with a trough of low pressure. However, ocean temperatures will warm to 28°C, which may partially counteract the increase in shear, as far as maintaining a favorable environment for development. Dry air and shear may be significant enough to destroy TD 7 on Sunday, as predicted by the GFS and ECMWF models. These models tried to kill off Ernesto in a similar situation last week, so I am inclined to believe TD 7 will survive for the coming five days, but struggle. The official NHC forecast of a 45 mph tropical storm moving through the Lesser Antilles Islands Saturday night and Sunday is a reasonable one.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Invest 93L.

93L
A strong tropical wave in the far Eastern Atlantic that emerged off the coast of Africa Thursday night was designated Invest 93L by NHC. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 93L a 50% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Sunday morning. Satellite loops show a pronounced spin to the atmosphere at mid levels, but little in the way of heavy thunderstorm activity. The latest Saharan Air Layer Analysis from the University of Wisconsin shows that while the atmosphere immediately surrounding the disturbance is moist, there is a large area of dry air from the Sahara to the west and north. This dry air will be a significant impediment to development during the coming week. The ECMWF model shows some weak development of 93L over the coming week, and predicts a general west-northwesterly track. The storm may be something Bermuda needs to be concerned about in eight or so days.

I'll have a new post this afternoon.

Jeff Masters
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702. wunderkidcayman 7:25 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
wow looks like TD 7 is a stronger system it not even reached the bouy yet already seing pressure drop to 1012mb and still falling with wind at 19kts
bouy Station 41040 located at 14.477 N 53.008 W (14%uFFFD28'38" N 53%uFFFD0'28" W)

the TD is at 13.7N 50.9W

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703. HuracanTaino 7:26 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Agreed on both parts.
Might lose some of its punch while crossing the hostile zone, but would rise again like his predessor, good old Ernesto in the western Carobbean but in a more northern track of course...,
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704. tedauxie 7:26 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting barbamz:
Did you read his memories on Katrina? Impressive.
http://28storms.com/about/


I just read Jason's memoirs of Katrina. They are more than just impressive. I teared-up when I finished reading the piece.

If the lad ever tires of met, he could have a helluva future as a writer.
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706. Msdrown 7:30 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
156 PM CDT FRI AUG 10 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
HANCOCK COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF DIAMONDHEAD...
SOUTH CENTRAL PEARL RIVER COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 245 PM CDT

* AT 152 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN
EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG



22/TD


Yes, as you say its been booming here all morning and my weather alert has been going off every 5 min.
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707. BahaHurican 7:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


LOL cause it bashes a liberal its nonsense? I love how thats uncalled for, but if you come in here and bash Romney and Bain its fair game and no one peeps about it.
Actually, I don't need any of it here... lots of wx to talk about these days.
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708. kwgirl 7:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting BahaHurican:
This was the place in the Keys, right? Think I read a Nnevada Barr novel set there....
Fort Jefferson is in the Dry Tortugas, about 70 miles west of Key West. It is a National Park, but the Government doesn't have the money to repair it. One of the curtain walls is falling down. They get hit with a lot of hurricanes out there. It is beautiful. Google it!
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709. Jedkins01 7:44 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
I finally got my first good storm since Monday, got nailed with plenty of heavy rain and most of all a great light show with numerous hits close to me.

Despite the fact that below average coverage was expected into to the weekend, I guess we are finally going to be headed back to where we should, which is great because August has started way too dry after having so much rain in June and July over much of the area
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710. Jedkins01 7:47 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting CrozetDutch:
Fox News : masters in psychology to snow millions of viewers. Propaganda channel superieure with mixes of lies and half-truths (selectively chosen) to beat democrats to pulp and idolize rightwing tea baggers and "republicans" 24/7. The most malignant cancer ever on the airwaves. One cannot call it journalism. No surprise as the boss is Roger Ailes, decades long GOP propagandist-in-chief.


Stop fussing about politics and stick to weather, the other major sources are no better, just from a different end of the political spectrum.

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711. BahaHurican 7:53 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
The big problem with political trolls is that some of them are "tropical experts" that likes to discuss politics as well. I just can't put them on ignored list in the case that this person is legal and not a troll.
[-] the posts. Works most of the time.

Quoting LargoFl:
..ive been watching that for days now, its a tropical wave that stalled there for what seems like a week now, there IS a watch for it there..still purple so far
It's only been there for a couple days, no matter how lonw it seems... lol

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Last year "they" were saying they were excellent to eat... Now I have heard "please be careful eating them"
I thought they were poisonous...

Quoting xtremeweathertracker:
My forecast of TD7....NOT OFFICIAL!!!
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How come it's only wrong to forecast a storm getting close to the Caymans when you're from the Caymans???

uh...
just sayin?
...
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712. MiamiSurvivor 7:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting kwgirl:
Fort Jefferson is in the Dry Tortugas, about 70 miles west of Key West. It is a National Park, but the Government doesn't have the money to repair it. One of the curtain walls is falling down. They get hit with a lot of hurricanes out there. It is beautiful. Google it!


When I was a kid (early teen) I spent a week down there, camped on the beach, the Fort was my playground, the ocean my swimming pool. I understand they have roped off a lot of it now, for many reasons, to protect it. It is a very special place, and it would be a shame if the storms damaged it.
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713. wunderkidcayman 7:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
I say TS watches for the Islands of Barbados, St. Vincet, St. Lucia, Martinique, Dominica and Guadeloupe at 5pm advisory
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714. wunderkidcayman 7:56 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting BahaHurican:
[-] the posts. Works most of the time.

It's only been there for a couple days, no matter how lonw it seems... lol

I thought they were poisonous...

How come it's only wrong to forecast a storm getting close to the Caymans when you're from the Caymans???

uh...
just sayin?
...

you know so when I forecast it its wrong I don't think so
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715. kwgirl 7:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Last year "they" were saying they were excellent to eat... Now I have heard "please be careful eating them"
Like any reef fish, they could have cigutera (SP?), which is very painful if you ingest fish with the bacteria (I think it's a bacteria). You can get it from snapper, grouper any reef fish. Mostly in the Caribbean, people get it from Barracuda. They prey on reef fish so they accumulate more. Just eat the little fish.:)
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716. hericane96 8:03 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
found this on the weather channal explaning whats in the western caribbean.


An upper-level trough which brought heavy rain to the northern Caribbean islands, and whose strong high-altitude winds "sheared" the remnants of Florence, has now, on its southern periphery, contributed to the formation of a concentrated area of convection (thunderstorms) over the western Caribbean. Satellite loops show that cluster of tstorms spinning, i.e. what meteorologists call a "mesoscale convective vortex" (MCV) has formed, which can sometimes lead to surface low pressure forming. That's what happened with the recent tropical storm wannabe in the Bahamas and Florida. On the other hand, such features can dissipate after a few hours. We'll watch to see what this one does.
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717. ncstorm 8:08 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
two surface lows near florida
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718. ncstorm 8:08 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
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719. jascott1967 8:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting CrozetDutch:
Fox News : masters in psychology to snow millions of viewers. Propaganda channel superieure with mixes of lies and half-truths (selectively chosen) to beat democrats to pulp and idolize rightwing tea baggers and "republicans" 24/7. The most malignant cancer ever on the airwaves. One cannot call it journalism. No surprise as the boss is Roger Ailes, decades long GOP propagandist-in-chief.


Do you know what that term means, or could mean? I'm only asking because one definition of it is a vulgar slur that could get you banned from this site. I won't report you (I still believe in freedom of speech) but others may and have the right to try because of the site rules.
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720. jascott1967 8:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:


Stop fussing about politics and stick to weather, the other major sources are no better, just from a different end of the political spectrum.



+1000

Quickest way to get banned from this site is by talking politics. jrweatherman should not have started this garbage.
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721. redwagon 8:16 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting ncstorm:
two surface lows near florida

If we could beg, borrow or steal a decent anti-cyclone over the GOM it would make use of all the moisture thrashing about. Anything for even clouds, if we can't have rain....
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722. HurricaneHunterJoe 8:48 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
Quoting washingtonian115:
I don't want to discuss politics on a WEATHER BLOG!!!!!.Their is plenty other blogs to discuss this.I want to talk about weather.I have to hear my husband,dad,mother,and brothers and sisters discuss politics on the regular bases along with my co-workers.So please take it some where else.....We know politics affect us.But this isn't the place to discuss especially when their's several tropical entities out there...


Here Here Im with you on this one!!

+1000
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723. aspectre 9:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
10August12pmGMT's 13.7n480w was re-evaluated&altered at ~1pmGMT
10August06pmGMT's 13.6n48.6w-13.7n50.9w are now the most recent positions
(Vectors and straightline projections have been corrected from the previous mapping)
Derived from (NHC) ATCF data for TropicalDepressionSeven for 10August6pmGMT:
MinimumPressure remained 1009millibars
MaxSusWinds held at 30knots(35mph)56km/h
Vector changed from 270.3°West@25.8mph(41.5km/h) to 272.8°West@25.8mph(41.5km/h)

POS-Trinidad :: GND-Grenada :: BGI-Barbados :: SLU-St.Lucia

The easternmost dot on the connected;omes is where 92L became AL07
The next dot to the right is where AL07 became TD.7
The easternmost dot on the longest line is TD.7's most recent position

The longest line is a straightline projection through TD.7's 2 most recent positions to its closest approach (within 18miles or 29 kilometres) to a coastline
9August6pmGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over GrantleyAdamsInternationalAirport (bottomBGIblob)
10August12amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over Bathsheba (middleBGIblob)
10August6amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over HighCliffPoint (topGNDdumbbell)
10August12pmGMT: 10August12pmGMT: TD.7 was heading for passage over LittleBay (topBGIblob)
10August6pmGMT: TD.7 was heading for passage over LinnisPoint,Dennery(town) in ~23hours from now (when this comment was posted)

Copy&paste pos-10.595n61.023w, bgi-13.09n59.457w-13.198n59.488w-13.31n59.579w, gnd-12.191n61.602w,slu,axa, 13.7n41.7w-13.7n42.9w, 13.7n42.9w-13.7n44.6w, 13.7n44.6w-13.6n46.3w, 13.6n46.3w-13.6n48.6w, 13.6n48.6w-13.7n50.9w, 13.6n48.6w-13.89n60.883w into the GreatCircleMapper for a larger-scale map and other information
The previous mapping for comparison
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724. yoboi 10:38 PM GMT on August 10, 2012    
storms are headed south bond into setex/swla
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