Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Three Atlantic threat areas may develop; a record fire season for the U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:43 PM GMT on August 20, 2012 +59
A large tropical wave (Invest 94L) located about 1100 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands is headed west at 20 - 25 mph, and is showing increasing organization today. The storm is under light wind shear of 5 - 10 knots, and is over waters of 27°C. A large area of dry air lies just to the north of 94L, as seen on the latest Saharan Air Layer (SAL) analysis and water vapor satellite loops. This dry air is interfering with development, and this morning's visible satellite loop shows that 94L's heavy thunderstorm activity is sparse. However, the satellite loops do show that 94L has now separated from the clumps of heavy thunderstorms to its south, and a pretty well-defined surface circulation has developed. Heavy thunderstorms are now attempting to fire up around this circulation center, but are being hampered by dry air. The center of 94L was about 80 miles to the north of buoy 41041 at 10 am Monday morning, and the buoy recorded SW winds of 10 mph, confirming that 94L probably does have a closed surface circulation. The disturbance will have to build and maintain more heavy thunderstorms than it has now to be considered a tropical depression, though. The first hurricane hunter mission into 94L is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 94L.

Forecast for 94L
The latest 8 am EDT run of the SHIPS model predicts that wind shear will be low, 5 - 10 knots, for the next five days. Ocean temperatures will warm from 27°C this morning to 28.5°C by Wednesday morning, and the total heat content of the ocean will increase sharply during that period, as well. The main impediment to development will be dry air to the north, and the SHIPS model predicts the amount of dry air will change little over the next five days. I expect that 94L will continue to struggle with dry air through Wednesday, when it will probably have had enough time to moisten the surrounding atmosphere and protect itself against the dry air. The models have shown increasing unity in taking 94L through the Lesser Antilles on Wednesday, and I expect the storm will be a tropical depression or weak tropical storm with 40 - 50 mph winds at that time. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 94L a 80% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning. None of the reliable models predict that 94L will reach hurricane strength over the next five days, and it is unlikely that 94L will be able to organize quickly enough to become anything stronger than a 60 mph tropical storm before reaching the Lesser Antilles, given the storm's current struggles with dry air, and the lack of model support for intensification. However, once 94L enters the Eastern Caribbean, wind shear will be low, oceanic heat content high, and the storm should have had enough time to moisten the atmosphere to allow steady strengthening to occur. The main factor that might prevent intensification into a hurricane late this week would be a close pass by the island of Hispaniola. Our top models for long-range 4 - 5 days forecasts all show a path for 94L very close to the island.

Will 94L hit the U.S. mainland?
This storm is a long-range threat to the U.S., as historically, 16% of storms in 94L's location have gone on to hit the U.S., with North Carolina the preferred target (10% chance.) A trough of low pressure capable of pulling 94L to the north enters Western Canada Thursday night, and the exact timing and amplitude of this trough will determine the ultimate landfall location of 94L. The long range 7 - 14 day runs of the GFS model over the past three day have all predicted an eventual landfall for 94L in the U.S., though these long-range runs are notoriously unreliable. The predicted landfall locations have ranged from New England to Texas--which isn't much help. The past three runs beginning on Sunday afternoon have all taken 94L over Florida during the August 27 - 29 time frame, which I'm sure is making organizers of the Republican National Convention uncomfortable, since the convention is in Tampa August 27 - 30. However, 94L could miss Florida completely, as the average error in model forecasts going out 7 days is in excess of 500 miles. We can't rule out a North Carolina landfall, but the pattern we've seen so far this year is for landfalls in Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, so a more southwards path for 94L into the Yucatan is definitely a possibility. Also, we have that huge drought region in the Midwest, which tends to create its own high pressure bubble, which reduces the odds of storms making the turn and hitting the Central or Western Gulf Coast. If 94L makes it to the Western Caribbean, I see the two most likely options as a landfall in Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula (and then westwards into Mexico south of the Texas border), or recurvature into the Florida Gulf Coast.


Figure 2. MODIS satellite image of Hurricane Gordon taken on Sunday August 19, 2012, at 11:55 am EDT. At the time, Gordon was a Category 2 hurricane with 100 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Gordon hits the Azores
The eye of Hurricane Gordon passed over Santa Maria Island in the eastern Azores Islands near 1:30 am EDT this morning. Gordon was a Category 1 hurricane with 75 - 80 mph winds at landfall. Winds at the Santa Maria airport reached a sustained 49 mph at 3 am EDT, but the airport did not report winds during passage of the eyewall at 1:30 am. Reuters reported that Gordon caused only minor flooding and power outages. The hurricane is being sheared apart by strong upper-level winds, and the extratropical remnants of Gordon will not bring any strong winds or significant rain to Europe.

Disturbance 95L in the Gulf near the Texas/Mexico border
A region of disturbed weather (Invest 95L) has developed in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast, just northeast of Tampico, Mexico. The disturbance is due to a trough of low pressure and its associated cold front which moved off the coast over the weekend, but has been fortified via moisture from Tropical Storm Helene, which made landfall Saturday near Tampico. If 95L were to develop into a tropical storm, it would receive a new name. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 95L a 30% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone by Wednesday morning. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 95L this afternoon. Winds at Tampico this morning were light out of the northeast, which implies that no surface circulation is forming at this time. Radar out of Altamira, Mexico does show some banding to the precipitation echoes, though, which may be indicative of something trying to spin up. The computer models show that 95L should move little over the next few days.


Figure 3. Radar out of Altamira, Mexico at 9:45 am EDT August 20, 2012, shows some banding to the precipitation echoes in association with 95L.

Disturbance 96L off the coast of Africa
The tropical Atlantic is very busy this third week of August, and this is the week of the year that we typically see a major ramp-up of tropical storm activity in the Atlantic. A new tropical wave that emerged from the coast of Africa Sunday (Invest 96L) is headed west at 15 - 20 mph. This disturbance has a modest amount of spin and heavy thunderstorm activity, and is under a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 96L a 20% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone by Wednesday morning. This disturbance does not have much model support for development.


Figure 4. The new Suomi National Polar-orbiting Partnership satellite (S-NPP) carries an instrument so sensitive to low light levels that it can detect wildfires in the middle of the night. On August 17, 2012, the Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite (VIIRS) on Suomi-NPP acquired this image of the wildfires blazing in Idaho. The images were created with data from the instrument’s "day-night band," which sensed the fire in the visible portion of the spectrum. The Halstead Fire, centered about 18 miles northwest of Stanley, was sparked by lightning on July 27, and is burning in an area with large numbers of trees killed by the mountain pine beetle. As of Sunday afternoon, the fire had burned 92,000 acres was only 5% contained, according to InciWeb. The fire prompted the evacuation of the town of Featherville on Saturday night. Red flag warnings for adverse fire weather were posted in the region yesterday, and temperatures reached the low 90s with 16% humidity and winds of 10 mph. Image credit: NASA.

A record fire season in the U.S.
Massive fires continue to burn in Nevada, Idaho and California, and fires that are currently active in the Western U.S. have consumed over 1.3 million acres of land--an area approximately the size of Delaware. Thanks to widespread drought and unusually high temperatures over the past month, 3 million acres have gone up in flames since mid-July, and the fire season of 2012 now ranks in first place for the most acreage burned at this point in the year. According to the Interagency Fire Center, 6.8 million acres have burned as of August 19 this year, beating the previous record set just last year (6.5 million acres for the year-to-date period.) The Interagency Fire Center shows year-to-date records just for the past ten years. The 2012 fire season is well ahead of the pace of 2006, which was the worst fire year in the U.S. for total acreage burned in a year (records began in 1960). In 2006, 9.9 million acres burned, and 6.4 million acres had burned by August 19. With drought conditions far more widespread this year compared to 2006, and the latest forecasts calling for little drought relief over the coming two months, 2012 is likely to surpass 2006 as the worst fire year in U.S. history before the end of the year.


Figure 5. Comparison of drought conditions between the previous record fire year in the contiguous U.S. (2006) with 2012. Drought is much more widespread in 2012 compared to 2006, and 2012 will likely finish ahead of 2006 for the most acreage burned since record keeping began in 1960. Image credit: U.S. Drought Monitor.

Global warming expected to increase fire activity in the Western U.S.
As I blogged about in June, the severe fire seasons of 2012 and 2011 fit the pattern of what we expect to see more of with global warming. Hotter heat waves dry out vegetation more readily, resulting in increased probability of more acreage burned. A study published in the Journal Ecosphere in June 2012 used fire models driven by the output from sixteen climate models used in the 2007 IPCC report and found that while 8% of the planet should see decreases in fire activity over the next 30 years, 38% should see increases. By the end of the century, 20% of the globe should see decreased fire activity, and 62% increased fire activity. In the U.S., the regions most at risk of increased fires are the tundra regions of northern Alaska, and the West, with Arizona and Colorado at particularly high risk.

Jeff Masters
hugh blanket of smoke (got2dogs)
blew in about an hr after my last upload here - I thought I was done for the nite, but this smoke was incredible! made for some awesome light - sooooo eerie!
hugh blanket of smoke
Smoke! What smoke ?? (saltydawgg)
12th Ave road South looking north. Nampa Idaho full of smoke from 7 fires at last count with more dry lightning on the way.
Smoke! What smoke ??
Temecula Fire (photoandy)
This is just two hours after ignition! It quickly became a PYROCUMULUS...
Temecula Fire
Categories: Hurricane Fire
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 2251 - 2301

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 77 | 78 | 79 | 80 | 81 | 82 | 83Blog Index

2251. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:32 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting hydrus:
I hope this does not become a major hurricane and wipe out some poor country that is still recovering from previous disasters.


wait watch and see
thats about all
we can do now
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40511
2252. GTcooliebai 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Alright, due to popular demand, here is my forecast track. I studied several different factors to come up with this. After the last forecast point, my forecast is very uncertain. I'll explain the reason later.

You got the Ridge building in?
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5177
2253. fmhurricane2009 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:
Had some powerful storms blow through there weren't any warnings but there is now reports of damage to homes not too far north of here in my county, and there is tree debris around my area, saw multiple power flashes, wind gust were just a couple mph here under severe criteria... But they might have very well been just to my north. I'm not sure why a warning wasn't issued.


I thought a special Marine Warning was issued for TPA Bay? I may be wrong though, I am from Fort Myers, so I haven't gotten anything today
Member Since: August 15, 2009 Posts: 3 Comments: 190
2254. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Oui, c'est evident. Oui, je tu comprends.

You have to excuse the omission of a few little dashes. I don't have them on he keyboard.


I have a hard time trying to find those when doing a french essay...
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2255. Dakster 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


I am fluent in 5, but I speak and understand about 6 others.


I don't think I could even name 11 languages... much less understand or speak them.

Good going grothar!
Member Since: March 10, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 4932
2256. Grothar 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


Seems like these two are tied. Atleast for now. GEOS-5 isn't even done with it's 18Z run. Closes 95L tomorrow at 15z. You can see the thin tie that binds & hampers both in the model & tonight. 94L is huge..




Skye, does this strike you as a unusually large system? The Field seems to be expanding, perhaps preventing consolidation. Any thoughts?
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 56 Comments: 19527
2257. wunderkidcayman 2:33 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


um they wont upgrade to 100% until 2am, which is when the next TWO is out

then to TD 9 at 5am likely

maybe

Quoting SouthDadeFish:
Invest 94L at 17:15Z earlier today:



And now at 02:15Z:



looks much better now

Member Since: June 13, 2009 Posts: 2 Comments: 5417
2258. Grothar 2:35 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I have a hard time trying to find those when doing a french essay...


You do quite well. It is not an easy language. My mother always told me French was easy, just don't pronounce the last 11 letters of a word and you will get it right. :)
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 56 Comments: 19527
2259. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:35 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
I'd posted this 4 hours ago...

LATEST UPDATE ON 94L...significant northward shift now bringing the storm through the major Caribbean Islands...

Gordon is out of the picture since it's post-tropical...

Note: Wind intensity could be more or less 5 mph... it obviously can't be accurate


94L Summary:

Some latest runs take 94L a little northward taking the storm over the Leeward Islands, near PR and Hispaniola or very close to. Just like with Irene (It really didn't happened though) if the storm goes through the high mountains of the island, the storm could die or significantly weaken depending on its intensity and movement, now the storm is moving at a pretty fast pace but it's expected to slow down within the next days.... the passage over this area is critical because it determines what can the storm do after.

If Isaac does not weaken as much it could re-intensify faster since it's better organized and move now towards the north and completely miss the GOM...meaning heading towards the US East coast in response to the big through over Canada at the time...doubt that it could just make a sharp turn out to sea w/o any impact on the coast...

OR If Isaac weakens considerably it would take more time to organize and intensify here 95L could pull it towards the Gulf and eventually threaten the people living in the gulf states. Tamaulipas, Mexico is also included in the threat..

FOR NOW a more likely scenario is that the storm could directly make an impact on Florida as a Cat 1-2 hurricane...

IT ALL DEPENDS HOW STRONG THE STORM LEAVES THE HIGH TERRAIN OF HISPANIOLA IF IT CROSSES THROUGH.
A southern/northern track could mane Isaac a dangerous hurricane for either MX/GOM and US East coast

Here is my graphic,


iI'll take any comments from anyone interested

for larger pic... Link
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2260. GTcooliebai 2:35 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Jedkins01:
Had some powerful storms blow through there weren't any warnings but there is now reports of damage to homes not too far north of here in my county, and there is tree debris around my area, saw multiple power flashes, wind gust were just a couple mph here under severe criteria... But they might have very well been just to my north. I'm not sure why a warning wasn't issued.
Yep, my lights were flickering on and off and I had to drive through it on Walsingham Road, for a second there I was driving by instinct as I could not see from the torrential rain and wind.
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5177
2261. Grothar 2:37 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Dakster:


I don't think I could even name 11 languages... much less understand or speak them.

Good going grothar!


I grew up with most of them so no big thing really. I only learned a few from the beginning later on. It was hard.
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 56 Comments: 19527
2262. Hurricanes101 2:37 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
I'd posted this 4 hours ago...

LATEST UPDATE ON 94L...significant northward shift now bringing the storm through the major Caribbean Islands...

Gordon is out of the picture since it's post-tropical...

Note: Wind intensity could be more or less 5 mph... it obviously can't be accurate


94L Summary:

Some latest runs take 94L a little northward taking the storm over the Leeward Islands, near PR and Hispaniola or very close to. Just like with Irene (It really didn't happened though) if the storm goes through the high mountains of the island, the storm could die or significantly weaken depending on its intensity and movement, now the storm is moving at a pretty fast pace but it's expected to slow down within the next days.... the passage over this area is critical because it determines what can the storm do after.

If Isaac does not weaken as much it could re-intensify faster since it's better organized and move now towards the north and completely miss the GOM...meaning heading towards the US East coast in response to the big through over Canada at the time...doubt that it could just make a sharp turn out to sea w/o any impact on the coast...

OR If Isaac weakens considerably it would take more time to organize and intensify here 95L could pull it towards the Gulf and eventually threaten the people living in the gulf states. Tamaulipas, Mexico is also included in the threat..

FOR NOW a more likely scenario is that the storm could directly make an impact on Florida as a Cat 1-2 hurricane...

IT ALL DEPENDS HOW STRONG THE STORM LEAVES THE HIGH TERRAIN OF HISPANIOLA IF IT CROSSES THROUGH.
A southern/northern track could mane Isaac a dangerous hurricane for either MX/GOM and US East coast

Here is my graphic,


iI'll take any comments from anyone interested

for larger pic... Link


um there hasnt been a "significant shift" in either direction in the last few days really
Member Since: March 10, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 6902
2263. fmhurricane2009 2:37 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Alright, due to popular demand, here is my forecast track. I studied several different factors to come up with this. After the last forecast point, my forecast is very uncertain. I'll explain the reason later.


Debby (2000) Much?
Member Since: August 15, 2009 Posts: 3 Comments: 190
2264. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:37 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


You do quite well. It is not an easy language. My mother always told me French was easy, just don't pronounce the last 11 letters of a word and you will get it right. :)


11??? what do you mean..
Im in level 3... the taking sometimes really trows me off specially doing the correct french pronunciation of the r, and eu...
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2265. StormJunkie 2:38 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Skye, does this strike you as a unusually large system? The Field seems to be expanding, perhaps preventing consolidation. Any thoughts?
It is a big big system.  And if Skye says it is, then that's as good as anyone's word on here.  There are a few people that I always read their entire post and even take extra effort to try and understand in order to further my knowledge.  Skye and nrti.  They can come up with the most obscure data, help you find some tidbit of information that would have taken hours to try and find on your own, and are always helpful.  Thanks to both of you!

That said, I think the lack of consolidation is not a problem...It just doesn't have the convection due to dry air, forward speed, and whatever the connection to 96 is that Skye just brought up.
Member Since: August 17, 2005 Posts: 26 Comments: 15218
2266. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:38 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
I LOVE THE FACT THAT THIS YEAR MANY PEOPLE HERE TAKE THE TIME TO COME U WITH THE IDEA OF THE FORECAST FOR A STORM...LIKE 94L???
GOOD IMPROVEMENT...FIRST TIME I SEE IT...
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2267. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:39 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting fmhurricane2009:

Debby (2000) Much?



popular demand...? lol
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2268. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:39 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


Seems like these two are tied. Atleast for now. GEOS-5 isn't even done with it's 18Z run. Closes 95L tomorrow at 15z. You can see the thin tie that binds & hampers both in the model & tonight. 94L is huge..


everything moves in tandem
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40511
2269. MississippiWx 2:39 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
You got the Ridge building in?


I see that as a bigger possibility now than I did earlier. I'm just not liking the 500mb pattern being shown by the GFS now. Looks to be a very iffy pattern whether a large enough weakness will exist to the north to pull 94L (Isaac) all the way up the East Coast. I think the 18z GFS is very plausible. I've been saying East Coast the whole time, so I'm going to stick with it for now. However, my cone splits the difference and gives both possibilities a chance.

500mb pattern for Day 8:

Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 13 Comments: 8559
2270. CaicosRetiredSailor 2:39 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting pottery:

They will probably refuel in the Islands anyway.
They often fly out of Barbados, but this time maybe Antigua?


....From comments under RandyB's blog when they were flying to Ernesto....


The Hurricane Hunters area of operation, as defined by the National Hurricane Operations Plan, includes storms from 55W in the mid-Atlantic to about 155W in the eastern Pacific. As a storm approaches 55W in the Atlantic, NHC will task the Hurricane Hunters to begin flying. St. Croix is considered a forward opoerating location for storms in the mid-Atlantic. If a storm threatens St. Croix while they are operating there, they often evacuate to either Barbados or Homestead, FL.
Member Since: July 12, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 5123
2271. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:40 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
1. A WELL-DEFINED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS LOCATED ABOUT 800 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. WHILE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN
SOMEWHAT LIMITED NEAR THE CENTER...ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY COULD RESULT IN THE FORMATION OF A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION TONIGHT OR TOMORROW
. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...90
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS
AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 20 TO 25 MPH. TROPICAL STORM WATCHES COULD
SOON BE REQUIRED FOR THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...AND INTERESTS IN THOSE
ISLANDS SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE.

that's not happening TONIGHT... TOMORROW saved them...
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2272. Dakster 2:41 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


I grew up with most of them so no big thing really. I only learned a few from the beginning later on. It was hard.


Yes. I would imagine so... But it is something to be very proud of. Although going to Canada this year, I found it almost easy to read French. It is closer to English than I thought.

Member Since: March 10, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 4932
2273. Gorty 2:41 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Who thinks we can have three more named storms before August ends? The three current invests right now.
Member Since: November 8, 2008 Posts: 11 Comments: 1058
2274. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:41 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Dakster:


I don't think I could even name 11 languages... much less understand or speak them.

Good going grothar!


I know and speak 5 languages pretty well...
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2275. opal92nwf 2:42 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting congaline:

Wow, I guess i kicked the hornet's nest with that one, oops. What does your post mean? You want to kill me? My post was just what passed through my mind as I thought about the name Isaac and where he is predicted to make landfall, and the monumental timing of that possibility. There actually is occasion on a weather blog to mention political issues sometimes. For instance, I honestly don't understand serious Weather people supporting Republican candidates, since to me their continued denial of global warming kind of seems something weather professionals, students, and hobbyists might have some trouble with. Sincerely I wonder about this. Also aren't there issues about Republicans wanting to cut funding to Hurricane Hunter Missions? Yes, yes, talk about whether 94L will be named Isaac, how soon, and where it will go, but never mention the obvious.

I'm sorry that was sort of overkill. I myself am not a huge in your face political person, I was just sort of trying to find a post to use that clip to quote with.
Member Since: May 12, 2012 Posts: 4 Comments: 331
2276. Gorty 2:42 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
1. A WELL-DEFINED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS LOCATED ABOUT 800 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. WHILE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN
SOMEWHAT LIMITED NEAR THE CENTER...ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY COULD RESULT IN THE FORMATION OF A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION TONIGHT OR TOMORROW
. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...90
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS
AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 20 TO 25 MPH. TROPICAL STORM WATCHES COULD
SOON BE REQUIRED FOR THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...AND INTERESTS IN THOSE
ISLANDS SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE.

that's not happening TONIGHT... TOMORROW saved them...


It's gotten better organized... even more thundersotrms by the center. But yeah, not enough to call it a TD. I can see sometime tomorrow we will have a TD.
Member Since: November 8, 2008 Posts: 11 Comments: 1058
2277. ProgressivePulse 2:42 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
JSL showing 94L getting antsy.

Member Since: August 19, 2005 Posts: 5 Comments: 4326
2278. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:43 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Gorty:


It's gotten better organized... even more thundersotrms by the center. But yeah, not enough to call it a TD. I can see sometime tomorrow we will have a TD.


betcha that tomorrow when I get up I'll find TD 9
Member Since: April 23, 2011 Posts: 32 Comments: 7890
2279. WxGeekVA 2:43 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    


Actually looking better than it has in a while, banding on the west side of the circulation and convection building over the southeast part of it too.
Member Since: September 3, 2011 Posts: 13 Comments: 3316
2280. pottery 2:44 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:


....From comments under RandyB's blog when they were flying to Ernesto....


The Hurricane Hunters area of operation, as defined by the National Hurricane Operations Plan, includes storms from 55W in the mid-Atlantic to about 155W in the eastern Pacific. As a storm approaches 55W in the Atlantic, NHC will task the Hurricane Hunters to begin flying. St. Croix is considered a forward opoerating location for storms in the mid-Atlantic. If a storm threatens St. Croix while they are operating there, they often evacuate to either Barbados or Homestead, FL.

Yes, St. Croix is a 'first choice' for obvious reasons. No personal documents needed to leave the airport etc .
But Barbados is sometimes used, depending on how far south the system is.

Dr. Masters flew out of Barbados when he went into Hugo, for instance.
Member Since: October 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20708
2281. Jedkins01 2:44 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting TXHuRRicanE:


everything goes to FL on this blog..



Of course everything goes to Florida.


Seriously though, thank God not everything comes to Florida.


I'm a little concerned that my area( Tampa Bay) may run out of time soon( sort of like oil) and the worst case scenario hurricane will finally hit and this area will never be the same. It has been so long that eventually the weather patterns will line up for us to get the big strike. No, don't worry
I'm not saying our little disturbance in the Atlantic will be one to hit us( there's obviously no way to know at this point).
Member Since: August 21, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 5333
2282. GTcooliebai 2:45 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I see that as a bigger possibility now than I did earlier. I'm just not liking the 500mb pattern being shown by the GFS now. Looks to be a very iffy pattern whether a large enough weakness will exist to the north to pull 94L (Isaac) all the way up the East Coast. I think the 18z GFS is very plausible. I've been saying East Coast the whole time, so I'm going to stick with it for now. However, my cone splits the difference and gives both possibilities a chance.

500mb pattern for Day 8:

Okay help me understand this chart, does the blue represent troughs and upper level lows, red represent ridges, and what does the pink represent?
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5177
2283. StormJunkie 2:45 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    

Quoting Gorty:


It's gotten better organized... even more thundersotrms by the center. But yeah, not enough to call it a TD. I can see sometime tomorrow we will have a TD.
Possible, or it could be longer...honestly, the second it gets a significant burst of convection, which could be an hr from now or 24hrs from now...It will get its renumber.  And possibly a renumber even without it if it gets much closer to the islands.
Member Since: August 17, 2005 Posts: 26 Comments: 15218
2284. HurricaneHunterJoe 2:45 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    


Typhoon Tembin forecast to hit Taiwan as a possible Cat4 and the PRC as a Cat3 or 4.Could be very very bad for both. I gotta go look and see how many times The China's have been hit this year. Anybody know off the top of their head?
Member Since: September 18, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 2690
2285. Gorty 2:45 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


betcha that tomorrow when I get up I'll find TD 9


Luckily we have all this dry air and even some shear, these things can get going quickly if we didnt have those inhibiting factors.
Member Since: November 8, 2008 Posts: 11 Comments: 1058
2286. wunderkidcayman 2:46 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
lookinag at 94L/TD9 satelite it continues to get better orgainised and developing convection every hour just gets better and better I'd say Advisorys start either 2am or 5am thats my final word on that for now
Member Since: June 13, 2009 Posts: 2 Comments: 5417
2287. canehater1 2:46 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
This is why GOMEX has to be watched when fronts

stall out.....Link
Member Since: September 8, 2008 Posts: 1 Comments: 675
2288. sunlinepr 2:47 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Member Since: August 2, 2010 Posts: 19 Comments: 8445
2289. Grothar 2:48 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Dakster:


Yes. I would imagine so... But it is something to be very proud of. Although going to Canada this year, I found it almost easy to read French. It is closer to English than I thought.



Just remember, simple everyday words are basically similar to German. Words of emotion, feeling, abstract though and words ending in tion have French cognates.
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 56 Comments: 19527
2290. yqt1001 2:48 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


Typhoon Tembin forecast to hit Taiwan as a possible Cat4 and the PRC as a Cat3 or 4.Could be very very bad for both. I gotta go look and see how many times The China's have been hit this year. Anybody know off the top of their head?


5 typhoons:
Vicente, Saola, Damrey Haikui and Kai-tak

Can't say off the top of my head how many tropical storms though.
Member Since: November 19, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 1184
2291. StormJunkie 2:48 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    

Quoting pottery:

Yes, St. Croix is a 'first choice' for obvious reasons. No personal documents needed to leave the airport etc .
But Barbados is sometimes used, depending on how far south the system is.

Dr. Masters flew out of Barbados when he went into Hugo, for instance.
Still sort of weird to think that a few days later I was on the ground in the middle of the night looking up and seeing stars through the eye wall that almost took his plane down. 
Member Since: August 17, 2005 Posts: 26 Comments: 15218
2292. Dakster 2:49 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
If it doesn't form soon, the John Hope Rule may apply...

Comments?
Member Since: March 10, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 4932
2293. SFLWeatherman 2:49 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
TS coming to WPB
Monday
Mostly cloudy with thunderstorms. High of 91F. Windy. Winds from the SE at 30 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 80% with rainfall amounts near 1.8 in. possible.
Member Since: May 23, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 2876
2294. Gorty 2:49 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
If El Nino wont really be getting going until sometime in Sept. then I can see way less activity in the ATL by late Sept.
Member Since: November 8, 2008 Posts: 11 Comments: 1058
2295. pottery 2:49 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting StormJunkie:

Still sort of weird to think that a few days later I was on the ground in the middle of the night looking up and seeing stars through the eye wall that almost took his plane down. 

That's a weird one....
Member Since: October 24, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 20708
2296. Skyepony (Mod) 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Skye, does this strike you as a unusually large system? The Field seems to be expanding, perhaps preventing consolidation. Any thoughts?


Dr Masters brought this up this afternoon in a comment, about looking at it on the Central Atlantic view instead of the floater. I think it fully sunk in with this OSCAT pass earlier. Look how big the center area of weak winds is..& an OSCAT swath is huge only a little over 1/2 the storm fits in there. It looks like it's trying to pull alot of moisture & energy from behind it enlarging it.
Member Since: August 10, 2005 Posts: 144 Comments: 29312
2297. DDR 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
94L moving wsw now?
Member Since: April 27, 2007 Posts: 13 Comments: 1475
2298. RTSplayer 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


Typhoon Tembin forecast to hit Taiwan as a possible Cat4 and the PRC as a Cat3 or 4.Could be very very bad for both. I gotta go look and see how many times The China's have been hit this year. Anybody know off the top of their head?


They'll be alright.

When they have mandatory evacuations, it really is mandatory.
Member Since: January 25, 2012 Posts: 27 Comments: 875
2299. Dakster 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


Just remember, simple everyday words are basically similar to German. Words of emotion, feeling, abstract though and words ending in tion have French cognates.


Ok so you got me into being able to kind of read French and German. Any tricks for the Asian languages?
Member Since: March 10, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 4932
2300. stormchaser19 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
I'd posted this 4 hours ago...

LATEST UPDATE ON 94L...significant northward shift now bringing the storm through the major Caribbean Islands...

Gordon is out of the picture since it's post-tropical...

Note: Wind intensity could be more or less 5 mph... it obviously can't be accurate


94L Summary:

Some latest runs take 94L a little northward taking the storm over the Leeward Islands, near PR and Hispaniola or very close to. Just like with Irene (It really didn't happened though) if the storm goes through the high mountains of the island, the storm could die or significantly weaken depending on its intensity and movement, now the storm is moving at a pretty fast pace but it's expected to slow down within the next days.... the passage over this area is critical because it determines what can the storm do after.

If Isaac does not weaken as much it could re-intensify faster since it's better organized and move now towards the north and completely miss the GOM...meaning heading towards the US East coast in response to the big through over Canada at the time...doubt that it could just make a sharp turn out to sea w/o any impact on the coast...

OR If Isaac weakens considerably it would take more time to organize and intensify here 95L could pull it towards the Gulf and eventually threaten the people living in the gulf states. Tamaulipas, Mexico is also included in the threat..

FOR NOW a more likely scenario is that the storm could directly make an impact on Florida as a Cat 1-2 hurricane...

IT ALL DEPENDS HOW STRONG THE STORM LEAVES THE HIGH TERRAIN OF HISPANIOLA IF IT CROSSES THROUGH.
A southern/northern track could mane Isaac a dangerous hurricane for either MX/GOM and US East coast

Here is my graphic,


iI'll take any comments from anyone interested

for larger pic... Link


The system needs to have at least 65 mph winds, to survive the topography of hispanola...Hurricane David entered in the island as a cat.5 and get out as a weak cat.1 that is a example of how destructive is this terrain


Member Since: June 20, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 1357
2301. GTcooliebai 2:50 AM GMT on August 21, 2012    
Quoting Dakster:
If it doesn't form soon, the John Hope Rule may apply...

Comments?
How does that rule go again, isn't it if a system doesn't form by the time it reaches the dead zone it has to wait until 75 west to form?
Member Since: August 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 5177

Viewing: 2251 - 2301

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 77 | 78 | 79 | 80 | 81 | 82 | 83Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity