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TD 27 still battling strong shear
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 9:36 PM GMT on November 14, 2005 +0
Wind shear from strong upper-level westerly winds has disrupted Tropical Depression 27 this afternoon. The depression was probably near tropical storm strength for a few hours late this morning, but since that time, the center of circulation has become more exposed, and the deep convection has retreated to the southeast side. The spiral band that had formed to the south is gone now. Wind shear is continuing to drop, and is now in the 15 - 20 knot range. This shear is still high enough that there remains a 10% the depression will dissipate within the next 48 hours. If the storm can survive until past then, the shear will decrease enough to allow TD 27 to strenghen into a tropical storm and remain in a threat to the Caribbean for the rest of the week.

The eventual intensity of TD 27 is highly uncertain, and will be highly dependent on the track of the storm. If TD 27 can position itself under an upper-level anticyclone that is expected to develop by Wednesday over the central Carribean, the storm has a chance to attain hurricane status. Ocean temperatures are 28-29C--plenty warm enough to allow a hurricane to form. The GFDL model still predicts TD 27 will intensify into a major Category 3 hurricane by the end of the week. However, the other major intensity model, the SHIPS model, forecasts a strong tropical storm by the end of the week. There is no way to tell now which model is more likely to be correct.

The computer models agree on the basic idea that TD 27 will track westward over the Caribbean for the next five days, under the steering of a strong ridge of high pressure. By the end of the week, the models begin to diverge.
The GFDL and NOGAPS depict a stronger system and show a threat to Jamaica, while the GFS and UKMET have a weaker system farther south that is more of a threat to Honduras and Nicaragua. None of the models show the storm moving far enough north to get caught in the westerly winds prevailing over Cuba and getting recurved out to sea. It appears that the ridge of high pressure steering TD 27 westwards will continue to hold in place for at least seven days, making Honduras the most at-risk area for a strike. Remember, a lot can change with forecasts for the large-scale weather patterns five to seven days from now, and the future track that far in advance will depend heaviy on how intense the storm becomes.

The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to make their first flight into TD 27 Tuesday afternoon.

I'll be back with an update in the morning, unless TD 27 gets a name tonight. Incidently, TD 27 is only the 3rd tropical depression in history to form in November in the eastern Caribbean.

Jeff Masters
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51. leftyy420 2:55 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
wg thats what the ukmet shows as well
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52. yalie98 2:56 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
what does 1004 mb refer to? im a newbie
53. taco2me61 2:58 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
hey leftyy how are you doing ??? been a long time
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54. 8888888889gg 2:59 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
windnwaves ths storm up there in ak was a big one not for ca but up there in ak they had 90 mph winds a hurricane in ak but the storm is now over for them i may up bate my blog soon
55. leftyy420 2:59 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
thats the pressure. 1004mb is like what 30.00 or 29.98in something like that
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56. taco2me61 3:00 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Yalie the lower the mb=millibars the stronger the storm gets
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57. Skyepony (Mod) 3:00 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
The ukmet & gfdl has her doing that. The ukmet turns her north a little sooner. Watch the Gfdl take her across, near land then stop & move n.
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58. yalie98 3:01 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
thanks - if it is getting bigger then im getting worried again despite an email from Dr. M saying Central Pacific Coast of Costa Rica would have 2 bad days of rain at worst
59. taco2me61 3:02 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Hey Leftyy do you think that Gamma will get close to cuba or Fl keys???
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60. leftyy420 3:03 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
yeah i am back thouhg. told ya in nov i would be taking a little break with all the stuff i had to do
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61. 8888888889gg 3:04 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
1004 mb is 29.64in
62. leftyy420 3:07 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
any body interested i have my blog updated. if u want to stop in go ahead

lefty's blog
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63. DocNDswamp 3:24 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Before TD 27/Gammajamma can follow ANY of the models...it will have to get it's act together. Can't remember last time I've seen a more disconnected system... with a surface low so scared of T-storms it's run over 100 miles away from 'em.
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64. dcw 3:32 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Is anyone noting that the GFDL was initialized with TS winds?
65. tornadoty 3:35 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Our local news shows my area right under the triple point. Tomorrow is going to be a doozy of a day. There is literally going to be a superstorm crossing the midwest.
66. tornadoty 3:40 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Good night guys. I've got to get some rest.
67. SquirrelRJ 3:42 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
8888888888888, i'm sure it's been a realll long year for you, sitting safely in California and all.

Try living in the path of all these hurricanes, then you can tell me it's a long year.
68. EllistonVA 3:45 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
good luck tomorrow tornadoty. be safe.
69. 8888888889gg 3:52 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
SquirrelRJ yes it has i think evere one in this blog needs about 6 mo off of no hurricane out there
70. DocNDswamp 3:52 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Nite torn...stay safe. It's gonna get rough from Midwest to the Gulf coast next 36 hrs... I'm sure we'll see a few more Nov. tornados as it passes.
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71. dcw 3:54 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
"windnwaves ths storm up there in ak was a big one not for ca but up there in ak they had 90 mph winds a hurricane in ak but the storm is now over for them i may up bate my blog soon"

Thankfully, I speak lack-of-grammarese. The translation:

"There was lots of wind and waves in the big storm in Alaska, not big for CA, but in Alaska they had 90 mile per hour winds - a hurricane in Alaska! The storm is now over for them, I may update my blog soon."
72. EllistonVA 3:57 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
The cat is telling me it's time to go to bed. Good night all and we'll be praying for no tornadoes tomorrow.
74. taco2me61 4:02 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Hey Doc, I do agree with you we will for sure have some rough weather starting tomorrow nite and they say we will have some high winds and hail...
This is our ranny season and we normaly have very bad weather this time of year...
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75. 8888888889gg 4:04 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
dcw STOP IT NOW
76. taco2me61 4:06 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Sorry for the spelling error I'm hook on phonics LOL

:-)
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77. DocNDswamp 4:17 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Hey taco2, ..been viewing darn TD 27 too much, should be concentrating more on this front...w/ or w/o the twister potential, lot of severe stuff coming...yeah, after being so dry our area will go into rainy pattern...now that everything's dead and dried up...can't win.
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78. theboldman 4:19 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
be cool all
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79. theboldman 4:21 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
we might have to get some brothers in here to rough you all up a bit ya know what im saying g
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80. taco2me61 4:22 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
well everybody have a great nite and I will chat tomorrow, be safe out there and for the gulf coast be ready for the cold weather that we will get starting on Wed... The high for us will be only around mid 50's and the low will hit mid 30's...


Good Nite All

:-)
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81. theboldman 4:23 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
night taco
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82. taco2me61 4:25 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
I here ya Doc... What is dead will come down now and I will have even more clean up...

I just hope what is left of my roof will stay on untill the insurance gives me money to fix it if you know what I mean...
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83. taco2me61 4:28 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Nite all I have to give a class tomorrow. :-(

you too Boldman I will chat tomorrow if I have power that is...
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84. DocNDswamp 4:29 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Nite Elliston,
Nite Taco2,...I wont be on long myself...yeah that front will be a welcome cool down but we'll have to pay w/ some violent storms 1st.
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85. weatherluver18 4:30 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
hello whats up hows this storms doing
86. 8888888889gg 4:42 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
theboldman you got mail
87. theboldman 4:47 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
replied to it
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88. dcw 5:26 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
FAQ for newer trackers and hurricane enthusiasts: Link
89. Trouper415 9:33 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
What are the chances Gamma turns into a major cane?
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90. dcw 11:04 AM GMT on November 15, 2005    
Fairly low, Trouper. It is a possibility, but given that it failed to strengthen tonight my intensity forecast will be revised downward.

Or not. Just saw IR loop, its finally getting together.
91. tornadoty 12:23 PM GMT on November 15, 2005    
OK folks, my area was upgraded to a moderate risk overnight, with a high risk south of us. Violent (F4-F5) tornadoes were mentioned in the outlook. Keep the midwest and midsouth in your thoughts and prayers today!

Tony
92. mouseybabe 2:48 PM GMT on November 15, 2005    
dcw,

now you sound like you work for the NWS !! just kidding, of course...

i really feel like a crystal ball would be as good as anything else at this point...

in the meantime, i'll just keep watching 27 and hoping it falls apart... i am not ready to cope with another cane in so fl until i get my mobile home reset on its blocks and the tie-downs tightened...

hope everyone in the north and midwest will all be safe with the fronts coming your way...

mouse

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