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Another wild night in Tornado Alley
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:40 AM GMT on May 06, 2007 +6
The sirens sounded two more times in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, Kansas last night, as two more twisters tore through the county. However, both tornadoes missed populated areas, as did most of the approximately 75 tornadoes that touched down yesterday. The action should quiet down considerably today; the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) has placed most of Kansas and Nebraska under its "Slight Risk" area for severe weather. Sweetwater, Oklahoma received significant damage from a tornado last night, and we've saved 300 Kb animations of the radar reflectivity and Doppler velocities of the tornado.

It will take a long time for Greensburg to recover from Friday's tornado. To get an idea of the scale of devastation, see the aerial photos posted by the Wichita Eagle. Damage surveys are not yet complete on the tornado, but photos I've seen of the destruction show damage consistent with EF4 winds(168-199 mph). It is possible the storm was an EF5 (winds more than 200 mph). The nine deaths from the tornado bring the U.S. tornado death toll to 68 so far this year, two more than the toll for all of last year.

We've saved some extraordinary 1 Mb animations of the radar reflectivity and Doppler velocities of the tornado. I asked wunderground meteorologist and tornado expert Rob Carver to comment on what's going on in the animations, and here was his analysis:

This was likely an example of cyclic mesocyclogenesis. In a nutshell, the rear-flank downdraft surges out, wraps around and occludes the mesocyclone (Meso A for short). Meso A then veers to the left and dies, this is why tornado family members curve to the left as they dissipate. While Meso A is dying, a new meso spins up and becomes the dominant meso. Now, while I've seen plenty of simulated cyclic cases where the hook retreats when Meso A occludes, I don't think I've seen anything as dramatic.



Figure 1. Radar image of the storm that spawned the Greensburg, KS tornado of May 4, 2007, showing the clearly defined hook echo associated with the twister.

Coastal Carolina storm
The latest (8pm EDT) computer forecast models continue to show a moderately strong coastal storm developing several hundred miles southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, on Monday. The storm will be extratropical in nature when it forms. We'll have a lot of time to watch the storm, as it is expected to meander offshore for five days and gradually weaken. Water temperatures are 22-23 C off of the coast, which may be warm enough to allow the low to acquire some subtropical characteristics and become the season's first named storm. The models are hinting that the storm could remain over water long enough for this to happen, and I put the odds of a Subtropical Storm Andrea forming late this week at about 20%.

Wunderblogger Mike Theiss was out chasing yesterday and caught some of the storms; be sure to tune into his blog over the next few days to read his chase accounts. Stormchaser Dan Robinson posted some video stills of the Greensburg tornado.

Jeff Masters
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A big storm moved in on the 3rd. Wasn't as bad as it looked though.
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802. TheCaneWhisperer 2:46 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Evening all! Seems the models are pushing the low off the East Coast a little further south! Keep it coming, we need the rains down here!
805. Bamatracker 2:49 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
o...k... things are just getting wierd in here now.
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808. RL3AO 2:56 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Definatly a tornado on the ground in Pecos county.

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810. MZT 3:40 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
The Atlantic storm may still be a comma shape, but it's fattening up nicely on the shortwave loops.

Ya know, to be honest, I think it's starting to look a lot like Alberto on the infrared.
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811. Jedkins 3:50 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Rainfall total estimates are way below what they actually are in soth Florida, areas in south Florida(like Miami) that have rain guages reported totals as high as 3 inches when radar estimated only 1.5 maximum.

In fact Miami reported 2.90 inches in a half hours time, pretty darn heavy.
812. MZT 3:57 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Another storm that the Southeast "thing" looks like is hurricane Gordon from Y2000. Messy commas can be tropical...

Gordon 2000
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815. MZT 4:14 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Bouy 41013 is no slouch either... windspeeds are just touching 39 mph .. tropical storm boundary strength.

Even bouy 41012 off the coast of northern FLA is registering 9 foot waves and 30 mph winds. Tropical or not, this is a strong storm.
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816. MZT 4:29 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Hmm, getting easy to spot the center of circulation now...

-Dang- it's workday tomorrow. Guess I'll check up on it in the morning, to see what happened overnight!
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817. Skyepony (Mod) 4:41 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Not only has this year's tornado fatalities surpased last year's total it has surpased the 10 year average of 62 & the 30 year average of 54 & we're not even 1/2 through the year yet.
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819. HIEXPRESS 5:29 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Statement as of 12:07 PM CDT on May 07, 2007
The National Weather Service in San Angelo has issued a
* Tornado Warning for...
southern Irion County in southwest Texas...
* until 1245 am CDT

Radar
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822. strong 5:51 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
I'm no expert at weather, but from what I have seen ,a jet stream over a thunder storm
will give you much higher odds of a tornado manifesting, and on the other hand, a thunder
storm with no jet stream with in , lets say 500
miles will have a slim chance of producing a tornado! is this a fairly true statment?
824. franck 6:34 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
What about the wave heights??!!
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825. Starwoman 6:38 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    

Significant Wave Height (WVHT): 32.2 ft
Swell Height (SwH): 28.9 ft
Swell Period (SwP): 14.3 sec
Wind Wave Height (WWH): 13.5 ft
Wind Wave Period (WWP): 5.9 sec
Wave Steepness (STEEPNESS): AVERAGE
Average Wave Period (APD): 9.9 sec
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826. StoryOfTheCane 6:47 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
buoy reading 48kts, 60kt gusts. 29.69in/.05 (Rising). a lot of spin in there but not a whole lot of convection, its sucking in a bunch of dry air.

827. Starwoman 8:25 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Would the dry air hinder the development?
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828. GetReal 8:38 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Star the dry continental air entraining into the system will hinder the development of heavy convection. Consequently the system will be less likely to become a true tropical system... Sub-tropical maybe with time... It currently has the look of a cold core low (Gale center).
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829. Starwoman 8:42 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Thanks, GR. I thought something like that would happen but wasn't sure (as I'm new to forcasting).
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830. StoryOfTheCane 8:49 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
check out the Southern Caribbean around May 14th on the GFS:MSL:Tropical Atlantic:18z, could affect the islands before heading out to sea
831. TayTay 8:56 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Doesn't look like it will even become subtropical. It's just a gale.
832. StoryOfTheCane 9:23 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
who knows what it will be, just take note that a disturbance is in the forecast
833. lilmax 10:17 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Hello everyone. Those 7 hours of sleep really did me well.
834. BahaHurican 10:21 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Morning all,

Would u believe it's barely rained here? That blob just fizzled out as it crossed the Gulf Stream. However, I just heard a bit of thunder, so perhaps later this a. m. we will get a bit of rain. Meanwhile, the temperature has really dropped; it feels almost 10 degrees cooler out there than it did yesterday morning around this time . . .

I'm out for the day. Have a good one! (hope nobody gets hit with another tornado)
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835. lilmax 10:27 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Yeah, sure looks like it might have a tough time becoming fully sub-tropical. With all that dry air, nah.
836. lilmax 10:40 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
40 KTS gusts being recorded on Cape Hatteras.
837. StormJunkie 10:44 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Morning all.

If the SE coastal low is to start becoming tropical or sub tropical it would likely not start happening until later tonight. That being said, it will have to get rid of that dry air if it has any shot. Will still be interesting to watch the evolution of this low either way though.

See y'all later

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838. Thundercloud01221991 10:49 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
If the storm can cut the dry air off it could become tropical very fast does anyone have a link to the latest models
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839. Thundercloud01221991 10:52 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Here is a link to the 28 indicators for classifying tornadoes

Link
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841. Bamatracker 11:22 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
WESTERN ATLANTIC...
ATTENTION REMAINS FOCUSED ON THE STRONG LOW PRES SYSTEM OFF THE
CAROLINA COASTLINE....ANALYZED 998 MB NEAR 33N72W. A BACK DOOR
COLD FRONT IS PROGRESSING SWD FROM THE LOW TO SOUTH FLORIDA.
SCATTERED SHOWERS WITH ISOLATED TSTMS WITH THE FRONT ARE MOSTLY
WITHIN 60NM EITHER SIDE OF THE FRONT...THOUGH MIAMI RADAR AND
LIGHTNING DATA DEPICT TSTMS ARE MORE SCATTERED BETWEEN SFL AND
THE SE BAHAMAS. THE MAIN IMPACT WITH THIS SYSTEM IS THE STRONG
WINDS AND LARGE SEAS AS A VERY TIGHT PRES GRADIENT HAS SET UP
BETWEEN THE LOW AND STRONG HIGH PRES OVER THE NORTHEAST STATES.
A STORM WARNING HAS BEEN POSTED FOR THE FAR NW PORTION OF THE
AREA AS DESCRIBED IN THE HIGH SEAS FORECAST. IN ADDITION TO THE
ALREADY VERY IMPRESSIVE FETCH...AS THE STORM MOVES SSW IT WILL
PROMOTE A CAPTURE FETCH TOWARDS THE BAHAMAS AND FLORIDA. THIS
WILL FURTHER ADD TO THE VERY LARGE N/NE SWELL EVENT. HIGH SURF
ADVISORIES HAVE THUS BEEN POSTED FOR MUCH OF THE SOUTHEAST
COAST...SEE STATEMENTS FROM LOCAL FORECAST OFFICES FOR MORE
DETAILS. FARTHER E...A 1008 MB LOW LOCATED NEAR 29N62W ATTACHED
IS EXPECTED TO DISSIPATE OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. SCATTERED TSTMS
ARE MAINLY E OF THE LOW N OF 26N BETWEEN 53W-61W.


7am central NHC discussion
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842. dnalia 11:40 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
So what does that mean in layman's terms?
843. GetReal 11:54 AM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Dnalia it means that it will not be a very good beach day for swimming in the surf, unless your are a surfer!!!
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844. StormJunkie 12:05 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Thundercloud, you can find the models from that link I posted a couple of posts back.

Morning GR and Dnalia
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845. GetReal 12:07 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Good morning SJ... I have to run the kids to school will BBL.
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846. Skyepony (Mod) 12:11 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
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847. dnalia 12:13 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Good morning StormJunkie.

We're finally getting the rain we so desperately needed. I just wish it didn't come with the weather we got last night. I was driving back up to Kendall from Homestead and saw lots of cloud to ground lightning (I'm sure this sparked off a few brush fires out in the Everglades), and the sky had a bit of a green tinge. by the time I got home the sky was black. Then I got the tornado warning for our area. It was a wild night.
848. StormJunkie 12:14 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Looks like it is trying to cutoff the dry air skye. Will be interesting to see if it can manage it during the daytime heating.
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849. StormJunkie 12:14 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Back to work. See y'all later ☺
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850. SPRINKLEBOTTOM 12:24 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
LEGITIMATE BLOB #1 IS HERE. MY SPIRIT SISTER ALTANTICA OCEAN IS WARM AND INVITING. SHEARING WINDS HAVE QUIETED TO LISTEN FOR THE COMING STORM. MOTHER EARTH HAS THROWN DRY AIR AT IT AND STILL IT COMES. IT HASN'T WARMED TO THE OCCASION, IT HASN'T AWAKENED AS THE BEAR DOES TO THE WARMING DAYS OF SPRING AND MAY NOT, BUT AS THE SERPANTS WHO'S BELLIES TRAVERSE THE DUST, WHERE THERE IS ONE THERE ARE MANY! - SPRINKLEBOTTOM
851. rxse7en 12:25 PM GMT on May 07, 2007    
Hope we get TD1 and it just dumps rain over Jax for a couple of days. So dry here.
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