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Grading NHC's Tropical Weather Outlook
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:33 PM GMT on June 06, 2007 +4
The National Hurricane Center's Tropical Weather Outlook (TWO) is a text-only product that rates the potential of disturbed areas of weather to turn into tropical depressions or tropical storms. The outlooks are issued four times daily, at 5am, 11am, 5pm, and 11pm EDT. I've found them to be an excellent guide to what to watch out for. But how accurate are these outlooks? To find out, Jamie Rhome and Dan Brown, who are two of the hurricane specialists that write the Tropical Weather Outlook, verified the accuracy of all the outlooks issued in 2005 and 2006. They used a three-tiered classification of threat based on the following language appearing in the TWO:

High: "A tropical depression could form tonight or the next day."

Medium: "Some slow development is possible."

Low: "Tropical storm formation is not expected."


These forecasts were then graded by looking at the "best track" database of Atlantic hurricanes and seeing if a tropical depression formed within 48 hours of each TWO issued. The results, shown below, reveal that for the Atlantic in the years 2005 and 2006:

-When the TWO said, "A tropical depression could form tonight of the next day," a depression formed within 48 hours 53% of the time.

-When the TWO said, "Some slow development is possible," a tropical depression formed within 48 hours about 20% of the time.

-When the TWO said, "Tropical storm formation is not expected," a tropical depression formed within 48 hours only 3% of the time.




Figure 1. Verification of the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific Tropical Weather Outlooks issued in 2005 and 2006. Image credit: Jamie Rhome and Dan Brown, National Hurricane Center.

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1002. stormybil 4:59 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
looks like the wave in the carribien has the most promise for today does anyone think it might develope thanks
1003. SLU 5:04 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
That new wave off Africa could be designated as invest 93L as early as today!

However I refuse to believe that it will develop because afterall it's June 9th.

Only 2 tropical cyclones have formed in June in this part of the basin since 1886. Hurricane #1 in 1933 and TS Anna in 1979. So the odds are against it inspite of the "seemingly" favorable conditions ahead of it.
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1005. WPBHurricane05 5:06 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Only 2 tropical cyclones have formed in this part of the basin since 1886

Do you mean in June??
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1006. RL3AO 5:06 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Yeah, well we just had a Cat 5 Cyclone in the Arabian sea so its hard to say anything in the tropics is surprising anymore.
1007. stormchasher 5:09 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Yeah, well we just had a Cat 5 Cyclone in the Arabian sea so its hard to say anything in the tropics is surprising anymore.


Good point.... wont be surprised if we see 93L today or tomorrow.
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1008. SLU 5:11 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Posted By: WPBHurricane05 at 5:06 PM GMT on June 09, 2007.

Only 2 tropical cyclones have formed in this part of the basin since 1886

Do you mean in June??


Yeah sorry, in June.
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1009. WPBHurricane05 5:11 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
This thing off Africa will be poof by tomorrow.

There is nothing in the tropics that show any signs of development.

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1010. Thundercloud01221991 5:12 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
we may have 93L and 94L today or tonight
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1011. stormchasher 5:13 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
we may have 93L and 94L today or tonight


Little aggressive are we now..... but still possible.
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1012. RL3AO 5:14 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Wasn't there supposed to be another canned blog put up yesterday?
1013. stormybil 5:15 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
the wave off africa or the blob in the caribiean where will 93l form my pick is the blob in the caribien look at the blow up now . next
1014. WPBHurricane05 5:15 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
There is nothing in the tropics that show any signs of development.

Although there is an area around Panama. This is most likely thunderstorms and shear is around 15-25 knots.
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1015. Thundercloud01221991 5:16 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Afica
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1016. snowboy 5:17 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
the wave off Africa looks as impressive as any I've seen in a long while, but yes odds are it will dissipate - it is very far south to develop..
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1017. WPBHurricane05 5:18 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
I won't start talking storm development until i see something on this page Link
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1018. RL3AO 5:22 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
or here
Link
1019. stormybil 5:23 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
wp you guys always call it first many times before its up at the navy site thats what makes this the best place to get first hand info . and fun in predicting stroms .
1020. snowboy 5:25 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
that having been said, the blob in the Caribbean is also looking feisty!
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1021. WPBHurricane05 5:27 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
But the NHC is official.
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1022. snowboy 5:30 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
I hear you WPB, and I agree that's the first "offical" confirmation we'll see - nonetheless it is presenting impressively on sat. images..
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1023. stormybil 5:31 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
yes wp for sure but where is the caribeian blob headed if it does develope into anything looks pretty good at this hour
1024. WPBHurricane05 5:33 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
I think the Caribbean blob is just an area of scattered t-storms.
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1025. Hellsniper223 6:01 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Haha... Wouldn't it be something if we had another two storms this month?
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1026. Fl30258713 6:05 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Does anyone know what is going on with the Quikscat web site?
http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/qscat_storm.pl

I haven't been able to access it for two days.
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1027. stoormfury 6:33 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
The area of concentrated showers in the sw caribbean shows no signs of immediate organisation. although the area is under low wind shear, 5-10 knots and reasoable low pressure, 1010mb in Panama city. the area has to sit there for a day or two , if something tangible were to take place. all said and done the area does needs watching.
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1028. seminolesfan 6:35 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
There is no way that wave off of Africa will get named a TD or invest without it showing persistance for 36-48 hrs...therefore it is not possible for it to get either designation today.

Come on now people, get a grip...LOL
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1029. louisianaboy444 6:37 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
the african wave will not form though its too far south and i have seen many waves of that strength and even stronger just disappear by the next day....dont get carried away here....now the panama blob is looking strong i dont think this will develop but it still could use some watching!
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1030. HurricaneFCast 6:40 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
There are currently Two areas of concentrated convective activity in the Western Atlantic Ocean Today. One of them is an area of convection over the Bahamas which has limited potential for development. The other is a very impressive product of the InterTropical Convergence Zone that shows better potential for Development, however, you have to figure it is a Product of the ITCZ, therefore, outrageous convective activity is expected. The question is how long will it hold on to its deep convection? IF the "blob" holds on to its deep convection as it moves into the warm Caribbean waters we could see Tropical Storm Chantal. However, the latter scenario is not very likely as the majority of the Caribbean is not forecast to become favorable for any development until at least 5 days from now, if not longer. Therefore, I give this blob a 20% chance at becoming our next Tropical System. As time progresses, I'm sure that percentage will change. However, based on the data I have now, that seems like an appropriate percentage.

For the Full Tropical Outlook, including data, several images, and an extremely close-up look via satellite at the blob, please visit my forums :Tropics Forum
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1031. seminolesfan 6:48 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Considering the topic of this blog; the NHC has a pretty good grasp of TC formation up to 48 out, especially when they say it prob ain't gonna happen!

So I think the estimated guess of 20% possibility for the Panama Blob should be down-casted to more like 3% at the most.
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1032. stormchasher 6:56 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
What do you call this.........it looks like an invest !! Link
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1033. hurricane23 7:01 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
A TROPICAL WAVE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE 12Z SFC MAP OFF THE COAST
OF AFRICA ALONG 14W/15W S OF 13N ESTIMATED TO BE MOVING W 15-20
KT. THERE IS NOT MUCH DEBATE ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OR PSN OF THIS
WAVE WITH A LARGE AREA...ABOUT 10-12 DEGREES OF LONGITUDE...OF
WELL DEFINED LOW TO MID LEVEL CYCLONIC TURNING EVIDENT ON
SATELLITE IMAGES AND TO SOME DEGREE IN QSCAT DATA. THERE IS ALSO
A POSSIBLE LOW ALONG THE WAVE NEAR 7N WHICH MAY BE ADDED TO THE
18Z ANALYSIS. SFC OBS...MOSTLY STATIONS OVER AFRICA...CLEARLY
INDICATE THIS FEATURE WITH 24-H PRES DROPS IN THE 2-4 MB RANGE
IN DAKAR AND SURROUNDING CITIES. CONVECTION HAS DECREASED SOME
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS BUT SCATTERED MODERATE STILL EXISTS
FROM 4N-8N BETWEEN 13W-19W.



As noted by the NHC this wave has very nice mid-level circulation with it but iam also noticing a decrease in convection the past couple of hours.
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1034. seminolesfan 7:02 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Looks like a vigorous tropical wave that just transitioned off the African coast.
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1035. stormchasher 7:04 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Hey Adrian whats your brake down on the East Atlantic wave?? Should i be watching this or i am i just wasting my time.
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1036. hurricane23 7:14 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Stormchaser this wave has definately gotten my attention and it does have a very decent mid-level circualtion but also notice its lost some convection as its moves westward which is no surprise.persistence is key here but keep in mind most waves this time of the year once they get separated from the monsoon trough they begin to struggle and fade fast.

Here is a very recent visible image...

wave
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1037. G35Wayne 7:19 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
yeah but the convection is taking a poop.
1038. stormchasher 7:20 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
True.... Very True....... well thanks alot for that break down.....will keep one eye on it though.
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1040. clwstmchasr 7:25 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
If this were 30 days from now that wave off of Africa would really get my attention. It is just too early for this to develop. I must say that it is an impressive wave for so early in the season.
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1041. RL3AO 7:25 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
It look like it has banding features.
1042. seflagamma 7:29 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
dr master's is trying to set up a new blog...
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1044. Alec 7:33 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
If this were 30 days from now that wave off of Africa would really get my attention. It is just too early for this to develop. I must say that it is an impressive wave for so early in the season.

I agree.....freak things happen though but aren't the norm.....
1045. RL3AO 7:34 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
BTW, what are the SSTs and shear off the coast of Africa?
1046. kmanislander 7:36 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
repost coming
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1047. Patrap 7:36 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
10-Day Atlantic WAVETRAK Link
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1049. Patrap 7:38 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Water Vapor
GOES-East, METEOSAT-8, & MTSAT
Atlantic Region
Link
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1050. Alec 7:38 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
sst's are mainly in the upper 70s off the coast of Africa and according to the Penn state maps there is a good amount of shear out there....

Oh and BTW, systems have trouble forming when they are at a low latitude because the coriolis force is weaker...
1051. Patrap 7:39 PM GMT on June 09, 2007    
Latest Available
850 hPa Vorticity
North Atlantic
Link
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