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Challenging Bill Proenza's QuikSCAT numbers
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:04 PM GMT on July 04, 2007 +4
A political storm engulfed the National Hurricane Center this week, with a majority of the senior hurricane forecasters calling for Bill Proenza's removal as director. The most visible issue revolved around the extraordinary focus on the aging QuikSCAT satellite. The public argument put forth by Mr. Proenza was that QuikSCAT data was so vital to hurricane track forecasting that without it, track forecast errors would increase significantly, leading to larger warning areas and increased costs for evacuation and emergency planning.

Focus on QuikSCAT--out of proportion?
On March 16th Proenza went public with the QuikSCAT concerns and associated statistics for the first time, stating that "two- and three-day forecasts of a storm's path would be affected. The two-day forecast could be 10 percent worse while the three-day one could be affected up to 16 percent," with the conclusion," that would mean longer stretches of coastline would have to be placed under warnings, and more people than necessary would have to evacuate." As a result of these comments, a perception arose in the public and among lawmakers that without QuikSCAT, NHC would not be able to provide accurate hurricane forecasts. Legislation was hastily introduced into both the House and Senate to provide an immediate replacement for the $375 million satellite.

Proenza's statements raised several questions: 1) Why the focus on track forecast errors in landfalling situations, when QuikSCAT was widely known to be used in intensity forecasting and for tropical cyclones too far at sea to be accessed by the Hurricane Hunters? 2) Could such specific and significant gains in track forecast error truly be attributed to QuikSCAT? Where did these numbers come from, and why was no uncertainty being attached to them?

Since QuikSCAT data became available, starting in 1999, average track errors for 48-hour and 72-hour forecasts have been reduced by 43 miles and 62 miles respectively. Fully one quarter of this improvement was being attributed by Proenza to QuikSCAT. This was an extraordinary performance increase to attribute to one satellite, and seemed doubtful.

We find out where the QuikSCAT numbers came from
In mid-June, Margie Kieper and I asked Proenza to comment on how he got his QuikSCAT numbers. He cited an unpublished study, "A Two Season Impact Study of Four Satellite Data Types and Rawinsonde Data in the NCEP Global Data Assimilation System", by Tom H. Zapotocny, James A. Jung, John F. LeMarshall and Russ E. Treadon. I contacted one of the authors, who informed me that the study was submitted for publication on January 26, 2007, and accepted for publication in the journal Weather and Forecasting on May 23, 2007. It will probably appear in the October-November time frame, according to the publisher. This raises an immediate problem, since only a privileged few are able to read unpublished research. This limits the possibilities for an informed debate on the issue, and basing important policy decisions on unpublished research is thus normally to be avoided. However, making accurate hurricane forecasts is important enough that such considerations can be excused. Proenza didn't give me any details on the study, other than the fact that QuikSCAT data improved 72-hour and 48-hour hurricane track forecasts by 16% and 10% respectively, for a select group of storms from the 2003 hurricane season. One of the authors graciously sent me a copy of the study, though, and after reading it, I had these observations:

1). The study looked at a very limited number of cases over a six-week period during 2003--only 19 cases were available for 72 hour forecasts. The 19 cases were not 19 storms, just 19 separate forecasts from the 4 hurricanes and 2 tropical storms that occurred during the 6-week study period. This sample is too small to draw definitive conclusions about the impact of the QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts. The two longest-lived storms during the test period were Fabian and Isabel, storms that spent the majority of their lifetimes far away from land. Since the quality of the observing network increases close to land, particulary when reconnaissance data from the Hurricane Hunters is available, it is reasonable to conclude that the impact of the QuikSCAT data for storms within 72 hours of landfall would be less than for the sample as a whole. The study was not primarily designed to study tropical cyclone track accuracy, so there was no separation out of the cases we really care about--storms 72 hours or less from landfall.

2). The study was done with only one model, the GFS. NHC official forecasts make use of several models, including the GFDL, UKMET, NOGAPS and ECMWF. Consequently, a change in the accuracy of a single model will have only a partial effect on NHC official forecast accuracy. As far as I know, there have not been studies done of the impact of QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts in the GFDL, UKMET or the ECMWF models. Past studies on the impact of dropsonde data from the Hurricane Hunters, however, show that the GFDL is less sensitive to these data than the GFS is.

3). When I attended the AMS hurricane conference in May 2006 in Monterey, I came across a poster presentation by Dr. Jim Goerss that evaluated the impact of QuikSCAT on the NOGAPS model. His study was far more comprehensive, and included 12 hurricanes, 5 typhoons, and 7 tropical storms from a 6-week period in 2004. The number of cases was 212 at 72 hours, eleven times as many as the study Proenza cites. Dr. Goerss found that QuikSCAT probably improved 24-hour track forecasts by 2.5% (90% confidence of this), but at all other forecast times (48, 72, 96, and 120 hours), QuikSCAT had no statistically significant effect (i.e., zero effect).

It is hard to compare the results from these two studies, since they used two different data assimilation systems. We do not know if they used all the data, or how they treated the vertical impact of the data. The uncertainties are high, and Proenza's simple statement that QuikSCAT data improves hurricane tracks forecasts by 10% and 16% is unreasonable, without at least making mention that these numbers are highly uncertain.

I believe that NHC official forecasts for landfalling storms in the Atlantic would not be significantly affected by the loss of the QuikSCAT satellite. I can't think of a hurricane scientist out there who would defend using a study with only 19 cases that didn't focus on landfalling storms, to make the case Proenza is making--particularly in light of the data from the unpublished Goerss study showing no effect of QuikSCAT data on NOGAPS model tropical cyclone track errors. Proenza should have at least attached some measure of uncertainty to his numbers, which he did not.

One could argue that the study cited by Proenza has undergone peer review, and is thus the only scientific study one can use to make arguments on QuikSCAT's effectiveness. The Goerss study has not been published in a journal, and has not undergone peer review. However, Proenza was making his QuikSCAT accuracy arguments in March, two months before the Zapotocny study he cited had been accepted for publication.

QuikSCAT misconceptions
The numbers pushed by Proenza have led to some potentially serious misconceptions about QuikSCAT. The Congressional Record has this to say about QuikSCAT:

"A single plane gathering data is like a tiny fishing line collecting data only along the single strand of the line. The satellite, on the other hand, provides rich, detailed data horizontally from one side of the storm to the other side, and vertically, from the ocean surface to the top of the storms swirling winds. The QuikSCAT is like a detailed MRI."

Well, QuikSCAT is not like an MRI, it just measures the ocean surface winds. In a letter written by Representatives Melancon and Klein in support of H.R. 2531, there are comments that data from the reconnaissance aircraft are inferior to the data from the QuikSCAT:

"Short-term options for replacing QuikSCAT include hurricane hunter aircraft, buoys, and foreign satellites--all of which will collectively produce inferior data."

There is not a hurricane forecaster anywhere that would trade hurricane hunter data for QuikSCAT. Lawmakers may start cutting aircraft reconnaissance with misconceptions like this. That would be a disaster.

I would hate to lose the QuikSCAT satellite, and have been calling for a replacement since before Mr. Proenza came on the job. QuickSCAT data is invaluable in identifying weak systems and in defining storm structure, particularly of outer wind radii of 34 knots and 50 knots. This is particularly true outside of the Atlantic, where there are no Hurricane Hunter flights, and in the Atlantic beyond where the Hurricane Hunters can reach. Track forecasts for tropical cyclones in the Pacific and Indian Oceans may benefit from QuikSCAT data, since Hurricane Hunter information is not available. QuikSCAT also helps identify when a tropical depression or tropical storm is intensifying.

Besides hurricanes, the QuickSCAT data is invaluable to the Ocean Prediction Center, which now issues hurricane force wind warnings for extratropical storms in the Atlantic and Pacific. Search and rescue missions, and the U.S. Navy also greatly benefit from QuikSCAT. QuikSCAT should be replaced, but not due to a rush knee-jerk reaction that will get us a replacement with old technology. NHC needs a "next-generation" scatterometer, one that has greatly improved capabilities to help tackle the structure and intensity problem. We should take our time, and deal with a gap in coverage, if it gets us an instrument that has higher resolution, higher saturation speed, and is not adversely affected by rain. Such a gap would not put the public at risk.

It greatly troubles me that the most visible and admired member of my profession has failed to use good science in his arguments for funding a replacement of the QuikSCAT satellite. The Director of the National Hurricane Center needs to be an able politician and good communicator, but being truthful with the science is a fundamental requirement of the job as well. Mr. Proenza has misrepresented the science on the QuikSCAT issue, and no longer has my support as director of the National Hurricane Center.

Other critical concerns--lost in the hubbub?
We strongly support many of the valid concerns Proenza has raised. Of particular concern are the slashing of critical research funding for the Joint Hurricane Testbed (JHT) from $1.7 million to $1 million, and the lack of adequate yearly increases to the National Hurricane Center budget. Both of these important concerns still remain to be addressed; they were quickly overshadowed by a frantic campaign by lawmakers to fund a new QuikSCAT satellite. The JHT provides the means for promising research to be tested in the NHC operational environment, usually resulting in a successful transition to an operational product at NHC. This program has been extremely successful, and its budget should have been increased, not slashed. As hurricane activity has increased dramatically over the last twelve years, NHC's budget should have increased accordingly, but it did not.

Proenza also raised legitimate concerns about NOAA's effort to promote their "Corporate Identity" by renaming the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service. The new organizations would be called the "NOAA Hurricane Center" and the "NOAA Weather Service". He also justly complained about NOAA's plan to spend between $1.5 million and $4 million on a "bogus" 200-year NOAA anniversary celebration.

While wanting to take a neutral stand as to whether to call for Proenza's dismissal, Senior NHC Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avila clearly shares the concerns that have been put forth by the other senior forecasters Richard Pasch, James Franklin, and Richard Knabb, and former director Max Mayfield. Avila noted, "If I [was] the director of the hurricane center, I would not spend my time fighting for QuikSCAT--I would be fighting to make sure that the reconnaissance planes are always there." That leaves a vacationing Jack Beven as the only senior hurricane forecaster to not comment publicly on the issue. Max Mayfield has refrained from making public comments on the deteriorating situation these past months, but all of his comments in the Miami Herald article lend support for the hurricane forecast staff. Given his previous experience in the position of NHC Director and his successful tenure, his feedback counts tremendously.

With the busiest part of hurricane season just a few weeks away, expect a decision on Bill Proenza's tenure to be made soon.

Jeff Masters and Margie Kieper

Having lost the support of most of his senior forecasters, and having misrepresented the science on the importance of the QuikSCAT satellite on hurricane forecasts, it would be best for Mr. Proenza to step down as director of the National Hurricane Center.

--Jeff Masters

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201. CJ5 7:44 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
While Dr. Masters seems to be much closer to the situation than I, I have not read anywhere where the QuickScat should not be replaced. In fact, it was scheduled to be replaced in 2008 which is now 2016. Also, claims have been made that the new Sat will not have any better technology, I find that highly unlikely since there is no information about the technology being used. There are no public plans about the replacement at all. Dr. Masters takes exception to the data used by the Director to back his claims for the need of the a QuickScat, and I agree he may have cited better information, but even Dr. Masters says the Sat is vital and I am sure he would not have a probelm with a newer more tech advanced one being a replacement. My opinion, just on this one aspect of the problems of NHC Director is this; If everyone believes a newer sat would save lives and better increase prediction reliablilty and if eveyone beleives that the current Sat is 6 years past its design life and operating on luck and a wish then why are they shooting the messanger? His comments may not be politically correct but they seem to me to be reasonable. 2016 is a long time to sit around and wait for a new Sat.
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202. nolasoci 7:45 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Does anyone have the new models for 96L???
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205. redavni 7:45 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Speaking as just an interested observer, I really don't understand the flack Proenza is getting at all. They need a new satellite, and he is trying to get one. Who cares if his numbers are a bit inflated? The basic premise that a new satellite is needed isn't wrong. If telling Congress that a new satellite will lower teen pregnancy rates along the Gulf Coast gets the job done, I say more power to him.

Even if they don't get the new satellite, Congress may be willing to compromise and give more money for reconnaissance flight's. This may even be Proenza's entire strategy. Based on the info I have read (not a ton) if I was Proezna, I'd be thinking about firing a couple of the forecasters who are obviously trying to get their boss fired through the media.

206. stormybil 7:46 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
96l has been a fighter and will be around for a while . the dry air seems to be moving faster west now now it will have a chance to form stay tuned !
207. Drakoen 7:47 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: JoshNHurricanes at 7:45 PM GMT on July 04, 2007.

Drak you got mail, and another question, by the way thanks for the educational lessons im getting from you....is it me or is 96L leaving the old convection behind to create a hole new area of convection?


if it wants to disorganize it self.
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208. nolasoci 7:48 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
anyone have new models for the track of 96L????
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209. Drakoen 7:49 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
theers only 5-10kts of winds shear over the system.
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210. ConeofUncertainty 7:49 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Speaking as just an interested observer, I really don't understand the flack Proenza is getting at all. They need a new satellite, and he is trying to get one. Who cares if his numbers are a bit inflated? The basic premise that a new satellite is needed isn't wrong. If telling Congress that a new satellite will lower teen pregnancy rates along the Gulf Coast gets the job done, I say more power to him.

Obviously, you've never been in a position of leadership. Bill P's exaggerations speaks to his credibility, and if he isn't credible, what does that say for his ability to secure future funding? If I were a Congressman in charge of allocating funds, I'd be very hesitant to give this guy any money at all, knowing his proclivity to exaggerate claims.

The ends can never justify the means.
211. Drakoen 7:49 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: nolasoci at 7:48 PM GMT on July 04, 2007.

anyone have new models for the track of 96L????


10 min.
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212. stormybil 7:51 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
does anyone think the new track will be further north than the last one ?
213. NorthxCakalaky 7:51 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Link

2 Severe Thunderstorm Watch and 2 Tornadow Watches.Theres tornadow warning in the Severe Thunderstorm Watch Box,and Severe Thunderstorm Warning in the Tornadow Box.
214. Drakoen 7:52 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: stormybil at 7:51 PM GMT on July 04, 2007.

does anyone think the new track will be further north than the last one ?

well the models ahve been shifty so this run may tell us a bit more as the models get a better grasp on the highly disorganized system.
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215. IKE 7:52 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: stormybil at 2:51 PM CDT on July 04, 2007.
does anyone think the new track will be further north than the last one ?


If it is...that's where the shear is worse. It needs to stay south...around 11N...maybe 12.
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217. IKE 7:54 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: JFLORIDA at 2:53 PM CDT on July 04, 2007.
I think there is a lot of stuff associated with that wave still in the area.

For some reason 96l looks better, weaker and lacking in strong convection -- but, way more organized.


If you look at the wide view of the central Atlantic...it's a rather large circulation.
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218. MississippiWx 7:54 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Might want to watch the Gulf this weekend...

Here's why:

NWS Jackson, Mississippi:

MEDIUM RANGE MODELS AGREE ON BUILDING A SUBSTANTIAL MID-UPPER RIDGE
ACROSS THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC BY NEXT WEEK WHICH ACTIVATES THE ELY WAVE
RAILROAD THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN INTO THE GULF. THE DISCOUNTED NAM
MODELS APPEAR TO SPIN UP A TROPICAL LOW AS EARLY AS THIS WEEKEND IN THE
NERN GULF OF MEXICO. THIS LOW DRIFTS WWD TO NEAR 88W 28N AND DEEPENS
TO 1012MB(00Z RUN) AND 1009MB(06Z RUN)...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR JUST IN
CASE SINCE GULF WATERS GENERALLY ABOVE 85F NOW.

NWS New Orleans, LA:

NAM IS INDICATING A SURFACE REFLECTION OF UPPER LOW PRESSURE
SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO TO TAKE ON A
LIFE AND MEANDER OVER THE WARM LOOP CURRENT FOR THIS WEEKEND.
SYNOPTICALLY SPEAKING...THIS IS A FAVORABLE PATTERN FOR SUCH A
SITUATION...BUT THE NAM SEEMS TO HAVE THE DOWNWARD TRANSLATION
MISPLACED TOO FAR NORTH FROM CURRENT SATELLITE INDICATIONS. GFS
AND NGM SHOW SOME WEAK SURFACE FEATURE MOVING WESTWARD ACROSS THE
FLORIDA PENINSULA INTO THE EAST GULF BUT DOES NOT ENHANCE THE
FEATURE AS MUCH AS NAM DOES. THIS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED OVER
THE NEXT FEW DAYS FOR LOW CONFIDENCE PROSPECTS OF POSSIBLY
DEVELOPING INTO SOMETHING MORE MEANINGFUL. COL CURRENTLY OVER THE
EAST GULF WOULD MAKE ANY DEVELOPMENT SLOW TO OCCUR BUT WARM AND
DEEP HEAT CONTENT OF THE LOOP CURRENT GARNERS SOME RESPECT.

NWS Mobile, AL:

BY EARLY NEXT WEEK BROAD TROF LIFTS OUT TO THE NE AS UPPER RIDGE
AXIS TO THE WEST SHIFTS OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF. THIS PATTERN
SHOULD GIVE WAY TO SLIGHTLY DRIER WEATHER FOR THE BEGINNING OF NEXT
WEEK WITH SLIGHTLY WARMER AFTERNOON TEMPS. THIS SOLUTION IS
DEPICTED WELL WITH GFS...WHILE THE NAM SPINS UP A SFC LOW OVER THE
EASTERN GULF BY THU AFT. COULD NOT SEE ANY REASON TO LEAN TOWARDS
THE NAM SOLUTION FOR NOW.
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220. NorthxCakalaky 7:55 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Hey just to let everyone know.We are having a Severe Weather OutBreak in the U.S.Tune in to the weather channel for all the wacthes and warnings.
221. Drakoen 7:56 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
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222. Drakoen 7:56 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
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223. Drakoen 7:59 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
the BAMS ideal for weaker system takes it to Haiti. WNW.
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225. ridesthestorms 8:01 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
I know everybody ask a 1000 times here comes 1001 could someone please post the links to the models!!! Thank you I lost all my weather links and info.
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226. Drakoen 8:02 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: JoshNHurricanes at 8:00 PM GMT on July 04, 2007.

Posted By: Drakoen at 5:51 PM GMT on July 04, 2007.

96L is dealing with the dinural min phase so it quite natural. It still has one more dinural max phase before i think it will die. If it can organize then its still 96L. The dust decreases as the system moves to the west and the SST increase.

drak..therefore it will intesify


Possible, but the way it look now thats a no...
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227. PensacolaBuoy 8:03 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
The Weather Channel's just trying to make it sound dramatic. There doesn't look to be anything unusual going on. Just a few scattered severe cells in a typical summer number.
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228. Drakoen 8:04 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
models:Link

Link

cyclone phase diargrams:
Link
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229. TheCaneWhisperer 8:04 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
I agree JF. Impressive circulation, toss in some sustained convection and it just may skip the TD phase, winds are already at or very close to TD without T-Storm activity.
230. nolasoci 8:04 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Weather channel down playing a lot of things lately
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231. NorthxCakalaky 8:05 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
232. Drakoen 8:05 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
TWC wants some more viewers lol. I always here them stress "keep it here with the weather channel...."
Desperation?
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233. ridesthestorms 8:06 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Thank you darkeon
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234. PensacolaBuoy 8:07 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Anytime I have a tornado warning in my area, I tune to the Weather Channel to hear "Storm Stories" or see Jim Cantori parasail.
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235. IKE 8:07 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: nolasoci at 3:04 PM CDT on July 04, 2007.
Weather channel down playing a lot of things lately


TWC does a shi**y job on their tropical update. They don't spend enough time talking about the tropics. They broad brush it in about 60 seconds to go to their next Head On commercial.
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236. CFLSW 8:09 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
I think 96L Is a dieing. I could be rong, we will see.
237. katadman 8:09 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Please, will some of you more technical types take a moment to address the possibility of the storms entering the gulf off the coast of Texas organizing (with a little explanation aimed at a layman)? Seems to me that if that were to occur, it would pose a greater, or at least more immediate, threat to the US coast than invest 96L. Thanks for any response.
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238. Ivansurvivr 8:09 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
96L won't (if at all) do squat until either moves west into the carribean or west-northwest into the bahamas i.e. katrina/rita or turns northward out to sea. It's too early and the environment is too hostile in the eastern atlantic. If it were later in the season, it would be something to worry about. However 96L is pulling moisture northward off S. America, gradually ripening the environment for the Cape Verde season to get going in late August/September as the early tropical waves often do. Right now I'd be watching the Texas
low or even the stalled front over Florida before 96L.
239. LouisC 8:09 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
On the Miami Herald's Web site, there is an interview with Bill Proenza that presents his take on the controversy. http://www.miamiherald.com/779/story/10148-a159751-t4.html
240. Drakoen 8:09 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
true IKE. it can't be helped. Usually i look forward to Steve Lyon in PM edition hes fast but he states the main points. The other METs just look like they're reading from a script and then tell us to keep it tuned with the weather channel after a sloppy update.
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241. NorthxCakalaky 8:10 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
They dont talk about the tropics because there is no T.D.Do you think viewers will not what a 96L is?
242. Drakoen 8:10 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
they can explain what 96L is NorthxCakalaky.
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243. Headstone 8:12 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Is 96 L dead! ?
244. Drakoen 8:12 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
the coc continues to push away from its life support. The HWRF and the BAMS seem to be in agreement in where the storm will go.
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245. NorthxCakalaky 8:12 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Well they dont wont people to get worried about something that hasnt developed fully.
246. Drakoen 8:12 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
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247. moonlightcowboy 8:13 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: Headstone at 8:12 PM GMT on July 04, 2007. (hide)
Is 96 L dead! ?



lol...the irony of the post(er)!
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248. Drakoen 8:14 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
dinural min really took at toll on the system.
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249. NorthxCakalaky 8:15 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
What time do you think it will refire?
250. IKE 8:16 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: NorthxCakalaky at 3:10 PM CDT on July 04, 2007.
They dont talk about the tropics because there is no T.D.Do you think viewers will not what a 96L is?


But their the weather channel. They should spend more time talking about what they promote all of the time.
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251. JLPR 8:17 PM GMT on July 04, 2007    
it looks terrible
it may have tthe circulation and the winds but no convection and the dry air seems to be killing it

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