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Warmer Water, SUPER HURRICANES
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:33 PM GMT on July 24, 2007 +5
The July 2007 issue of Scientific American has an article called "Warmer Oceans, Stronger Hurricanes" (referred to as "Warmer Water, SUPER HURRICANES" on the cover). The article is written by Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, and a lead author on the landmark 2007 climate report issued by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The article makes the case that "evidence is mounting that global warming enhances a cyclone's damaging winds and flooding rains." The article presents some solid evidence to substantiate that point of view, which I will share below. However, I was disappointed in the general tone of the piece, which was over-hyped and did not paint an objective view of the current scientific thinking on the global warming/hurricane issue.

The hype
First off, the reader is hit with a dramatic full-page artist's depiction of the global super-hurricane of the future--a massive 5000-mile diameter Caribbean storm the size of North America. The storm's 200-mile eye is wider than the Florida Peninsula! Whoa, I said when looking at the whopper "SciAmicane". No doubt many readers perusing the magazine, trying to decide whether to buy it, had the same reaction and plunked down their $5 to read about this grim threat. OK, lets talk reality here. The largest tropical cyclone on record, Supertyphoon Tip of 1979, had a diameter of 1380 miles--less than one third the size of the SciAmicane. A storm like the SciAmicane cannot physically exist on Earth unless the oceans were to super-heat to about 122°F (50°C). Only an asteroid impact or similar calamity could create such a hypercane. Even the most extreme global warming scenarios do not heat the oceans to 122°, so the SciAmicane is there to sell magazines, not to illustrate what global warming might do to hurricanes.


Figure 1. Comparison of sizes: the Earth, the largest tropical cyclone on record (Supertyphoon Tip of 1979, 1380 miles in diameter), and the recently discovered hurricane-like vortex on Saturn (the Saturnicane). The "SciAmicane" is about the same size as the Saturnicane--5000 miles across.

The article also calls attention to 2004, when "an unprecedented four hurricanes hit Florida, and 10 typhoons made landfall in Japan". I've erroneously made this statement, too, but the truth is that Japan was hit by only four typhoons in 2004. Ten tropical cyclones that were of typhoon strength at some point during their life did hit, yes, but six of these had decayed to tropical storm or tropical depression strength by the time they hit Japan. The article then refers to a "consensus explanation" emerging to explain recent hurricane activity patterns, and "that explanation forebodes meteorological trouble over the long term." I'd say that the issue is still very much under dispute. In fact, the consensus statement on hurricanes and climate change adopted by the World Meteorological Organization in December 2006, in response to the recommendations of a panel of 125 hurricane researchers was thus: "Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point." Trenberth's article gives a list of four publications to read in the "more to explore" section, but none of these include the recent articles that call into question the strength of the global warming/stronger hurricane connection. (I apologize for not reviewing the many excellent articles that have appeared on this subject of late!)

The good science
There's quite a bit of good science in the article, which is worth reading if one keeps in mind its biases. In particular, I like the discussion of how global warming has affected precipitation and atmospheric water vapor. The 0.6°C (1.0°F) rise in Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) globally since 1970 has increased water vapor in the atmosphere by 4%, thanks to increased evaporation. This in turn has led to an 8% increase in global precipitation. Trenberth makes the point that no given hurricane can be blamed on global warming, but one can say 8% of a given storm's rainfall is due to global warming. There's also a nice discussion about how weaker than normal trade winds over the tropical Atlantic in 2005 caused less evaporational cooling than normal, allowing the ocean to heat to record temperatures. Finally, the conclusion of the article is one I certainly agree with:

We would all be wise to plan for more extreme hurricane threats.

Both theory and computer models predict a 3-5% increase in hurricane winds per degree C increase in tropical SSTs, and there is concern that the actual increase may be much more than this.

Jeff Masters

For a technical treatment of hypercanes, see Dr. Kerry Emanuel's paper, Hypercanes: a possible link in global extinction scenarios.
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851. KoritheMan 8:13 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
MS doesn't want a Cat 1 or 2 even this season. Not that we ever do; but certainly not now.

That's true. I believe a Category 1 or 2 has a chance to be retired if it hits NOLA or Mississippi this year, due to more damage it would cause from storm surge, among other things.

But a tropical storm isn't bad, and I am just waiting for when one does hit, for people to panic and the media to overhype it. Just wait.
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852. cajngranny 8:23 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Yesterday morning, I saw a sheer map. I think it showed low sheer in the western Gulf. The map was posted in the blog, probably on one of the first couple/three pages.
I'm another one watching the Gulf very closely. Family stretches from the Corpus Christi area all the way to just west of New Orleans area. And that's not mentioning the ones that work in the Gulf.
paula
854. cajngranny 8:28 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
The map was on the very first page.
It's the current 250-850mb Mean Wind Analysis...
paula

856. sullivanweather 9:37 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
WSI's Crawford added that wind conditions due to the lack of an El Nino event were less conducive to formation of tropical storms


These people give weather forecasts?!
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858. sullivanweather 10:02 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
JP, can you believe the reasoning for WSI reducing (by one) their hurricane season forecast?
Makes one wonder...
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862. FloridaRick 10:40 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Does it seem that the NHC is being a little more conservative this year in identifying areas of interest? It just seems to me in years past that they would have been identifying these areas in the TWO.
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863. stoormfury 10:54 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Good morning,
I am in total agreement that the NHC has been very cautious in idetifying areas of interest as they used to do in the past, in their TWO.
That being said there are a few areas of interest. BOC and the eastern ALT.
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865. stoormfury 10:59 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
NHC HAS MOVED FROM 48HRS NOW TO 72 HRS IN THEIR TWO
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868. IKE 11:15 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Today is Wednesday...Saturday is 3 days away...that is 3 days or 72 hours.....

That gets it thru July 28th without tropical development....
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869. IKE 11:26 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: WiSHcAsTeR392 at 5:55 AM CDT on July 25, 2007.
000
ABNT20 KNHC 250857
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 AM EDT WED JUL 25 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH SATURDAY.

$$
FORECASTER RHOME


392...why does it actually say this....


"Statement as of 5:30 am EDT on July 25, 2007

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...

Tropical cyclone formation is not expected during the next 48 hours.

$$
Forecaster Rhome"......

and why would you change it?
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872. sporteguy03 11:41 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
JP,
Another Troll in the day of Paradise, how do they let guys like wishcaster on here?
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874. MrNiceville 11:49 AM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Morning All;

re: BoC

I noticed in the visible loop that it pulled in the low level clouds from the NE of it in the last few hours.

haven't had time to look at the forecast and data products yet - have to go get a tire patched this morning.

It may just be "funny convection", but it looks to be building around something to the NW of the large blob of convection and it appears (as I said - I haven't looked at the data) to be developing minor outflow to the SE, E and NE

Thoughts?
878. IKE 12:02 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: WiSHcAsTeR392 at 7:00 AM CDT on July 25, 2007.
NAM = Not Accurate Model


WiSHcAsTeR392...why did you change the wording of the tropical weather outlook?
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880. IKE 12:06 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Yup.
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884. emagirl 12:10 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
good morning everyone....well i see the blog has a troll this morning.....which i will ignore.........so what is going on with the tropics this morning.......
886. FloridaRick 12:11 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Progessive dude, If you can't talk weather or facts you should hit your internal mute button. I bet you beleive Bush cuased hurricane Katrina.
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888. stoormfury 12:15 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
let's get on with weather.
it is childish and irresposible behaviour for anyone to change the official wording of a reputable organisation just have fun. sic!
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891. melwerle 12:32 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
I don't believe that anyone could be so concerned with the BOC when Lindsay Lohan was arrested again yesterday...
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893. melwerle 12:38 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Morning JP - doing well. (hope no one took my commment SERIOUSLY...)

Anything to watch out for this morning or same old same old?
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894. Drakoen 12:39 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Morning everyone...
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895. eaglesrock 12:39 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
The BOC blob has a chance, if it can develop a surface low. Satellite imagery already shows some rotation in that blob. Shear is low enough, and SSTs are hot enough for a cat. 5, so I wouldn't be surprised if this became TD 3 or even TS Chantal.
896. stoormfury 12:40 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Eastern ALT wave looks quite large and surrounded by lots of moisture. It will be interesting to see what evolves during the course of today
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898. Drakoen 12:42 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
I don't see any rotation on the area in the BOC. It might run out of time before it can develop into anything significant.
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899. Drakoen 12:42 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: jphurricane2006 at 12:40 PM GMT on July 25, 2007.

scroll down a bit Mel, you will see a comment I made about that


morning Drakoen, you get to take the reigns now Im at work lol


lol ok.
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900. melwerle 12:43 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
ok everyone - i guess it's kind of slow - back to painting the house. I'll check in later. JP and all - have a great afternoon.
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901. borlando 12:44 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
that blob that looks like it's part of the front.... NE of the BOC blob. everyone sure it's part of the old front? i know shear is modest...

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