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Disturbance 90L brings heavy rain to Puerto Rico; major pollution in California
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:05 PM GMT on October 25, 2007 +3
A surface low pressure system (90L) just east of Puerto Rico is moving to the west at 5-10 mph. This low is entangled with an upper-level low pressure system that is bringing about 30 knots of wind shear, so no development is likely today. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico shows bands of heavy rain hitting the islands and surrounding waters, but these bands are not well-organized. Satellite loops show most of the heavy thunderstorm activity is to the northeast of the low's center of circulation, and high wind shear is keeping this thunderstorm activity disorganized. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 90L.


Figure 1. Latest satellite image of 90L. Image credit: NOAA.

The surface low is expected to separate from the upper level low tonight and move west-southwest or southwest across Puerto Rico, bringing the threat of heavy rain and flooding to the island. Recent rains have left large areas of interior and western Puerto Rico at or near saturation, and mudslides were reported yesterday in Utuado. Flooding problems and mudslides are likely across Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands Friday and Saturday, and this is shaping up to be the most significant rain event of the fall wet season thus far for Puerto Rico.

On Friday and Saturday, 90L will move westward along or just south of Hispaniola, bringing heavy rain, flash flooding, and possible mudslides to that island. The ECMWF and NOGAPS models predict that wind shear will drop to 10-20 knots by Friday night, which may allow some slow development of the disturbance if the center remains over water. The GFS model keeps wind shear 20-30 knots through the period, and does not develop 90L. By Saturday, the storm will near Jamaica, and the ECMWF and NOGAPS models predict a tropical depression will form by Sunday. Steering currents grow weak on Monday, and the storm could stall out for many days in the Western Caribbean, in an area of low wind shear and high heat content waters. This may allow the system to intensify into a hurricane. The eventual fate of this system is highly uncertain, since steering currents will be so weak. Those of you planning to travel to the Western Caribbean next week should keep a close watch on this system. NHC has not scheduled any flights into 90L yet.

It is possible that wind shear and passage over the islands will sufficiently disrupt this disturbance so that it does not develop. However, surface pressures have fallen 2-3 mb over most of the Western Caribbean the past two days, and there is a good chance that a new area of disturbed weather will develop. One such disturbance formed yesterday south of Haiti, but has since dissipated. Unsettled rainy weather can be expected to affect much of the Western Caribbean over the coming week.

California's fires
Surface maps show that the high pressure system that brought this week's strong Santa Ana winds to Southern California has now moved east and is over Colorado. The Santa Ana winds have ceased over California, and only light winds with afternoon sea breezes are expected today and for the next seven days. No precipitation is expected for at least the next week. The combination of light winds and lack of rain will make for a serious air pollution hazard in the region, until the fires are extinguished. There is still plenty of smoke over the ocean waters (Figure 2) that will get blown back over land by afternoon sea breezes over the next week.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image at 1:45 pm PDT Wednesday October 24, showing a huge area of smoke over the Pacific Ocean. Some of this smoke is being blown northward (top of image), and is expected to move over northern California and northern Nevada over next two days. This northward-moving smoke is being lifted by the flow around an approaching low pressure system, and is not expected to affect air quality near the surface. However, the smoke just offshore San Diego and Los Angeles will remain near the surface, and some of it will be pushed back over land by afternoon sea breezes. Image credit: NASA.

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351. extreme236 9:18 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Looks better organized

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352. tiggeriffic 9:19 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
hey all, only got a sec, have to go back to work to decorate for the kids halloween party tomorrow...however, ex hubby is in san diego and part of the evac effort with the military, have some first hand info to share later if interested.
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353. jpritch 9:19 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
I'm wondering about the persistent circulation that's exiting the Guatemala coast into the Caribbean. It's the same one that crossed from the Pacific into the BOC, where it contributed to the oil rig disaster. Now it's made another crossing. There's not much left of it, but then there wasn't the last time either.
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354. extreme236 9:19 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
BBL
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355. jpritch 9:21 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
I meant to say Guatemala/Belize coast - sorry.
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356. ShenValleyFlyFish 9:22 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
InTheCone

I prefer mine free range
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357. Floodman 9:22 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
343. InTheCone 4:12 PM CDT on October 25, 2007
Not a chance Shen!!

This bunch here grows 'em to keep up with demand!! I have a VERY LARGE aviary on my premesis just to keep up w/ my own personal consumption - lol!!

I'm just waiting for the official WunderCrow Cookbook - :o)



I'm working on the Crow Cookbook as we speak...I'm currently on the recipe for Crow Tartar...by the way, did you know that a nice Zinfandel goes well with crow?
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358. Drakoen 9:23 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
little contradictory to the 5:30 update in terms of track, but this shows the potential for tropical cyclone development.
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359. JLPR 9:23 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
so could we have a td soon or will it take awile to develop better
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360. rareaire 9:26 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
JLPR how is everything down there?
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361. InTheCone 9:27 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Shen & Flood -

Free range is tasty - a bit more gamey - but with my large demand I'd have to spend all my time hunting the wily buggers, leaves no time for blogging!!

Zinfindel is excellent w/most anything - in large enough quantities - lol!!
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362. JLPR 9:28 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
rainy
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363. TampaSpin 9:32 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
FloodMan istead of Bird i'm having Blackened Salmon on the grill.....sounds better than a black bird huh.
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364. TampaSpin 9:32 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Did anyone take names for Floodmans cookbook......lol
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365. Floodman 9:35 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
364. TampaSpin 4:32 PM CDT on October 25, 2007
Did anyone take names for Floodmans cookbook......lol



Jerry's Jammin' Crow Flambe (Cover art by Peter Max)
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366. CaribBoy 9:40 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Rain in sight!

Lesser Antilles radar

Strange..the sky is turning yellow/orange
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367. Floodman 9:41 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
366. CaribBoy 4:40 PM CDT on October 25, 2007
Rain in sight!

Lesser Antilles radar



keep your powder dry, CaribBoy
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368. TampaSpin 9:42 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Flyin High and Dark Char with Jerry......lol
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369. Floodman 9:44 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Dark Char?
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370. Floodman 9:46 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Okay, out for a while...BBL
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371. Tazmanian 9:47 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
wind shear is too strong overe 90L
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372. Cavin Rawlins 9:48 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Overcast, threatening clouds here in St. Kitts
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373. TampaSpin 9:49 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Shear Tendency
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374. ShenValleyFlyFish 9:51 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
A Friend of the Dark Bird is a Friend of Mine
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375. TampaSpin 9:55 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
374. ShenValleyFlyFish 5:51 PM EDT on October 25, 2007
A Friend of the Dark Bird is a Friend of Mine


They do tend to flock together.....lol

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376. TampaSpin 9:55 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Hi Shen.
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377. IKE 10:04 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Navy site has the coordinates of 90L at....

19.0N
64.2W.....

It's moved WSW since the earlier coordinates.
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378. Tropicaldan 10:08 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Been raining steadily here for 40 minutes now - a few rumbles of thunder too.

Dan
Orient Bay
St Martin
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379. CaribBoy 10:08 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Overcast, with fast moving low clouds, thunder and ligthnings, but still no rain here in St Barths.

Also, while low level clouds were coming from the southwest earlier today, they are now coming from a more easterly direction...what does that mean?
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380. Drakoen 10:14 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
rainfall rates.
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381. Tropicaldan 10:16 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Good evening CaribBoy..

I see you are a neighbour - if you click on my name you will see I have quite a few shots of St Barths taken from my balcony which overlooks Orient Bay in St Martin.

Still raining here by the way - guess its only a matter of time before you get your share.

Dan
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382. GBlet 10:17 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Here in the boonies we use cream of mushroom. Works the same for prairie dogs as well as crow.
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383. IKE 10:18 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
CaribBoy 5:08 PM CDT on October 25, 2007
Overcast, with fast moving low clouds, thunder and ligthnings, but still no rain here in St Barths.

Also, while low level clouds were coming from the southwest earlier today, they are now coming from a more easterly direction...what does that mean?


It sounds like it's moved to your west.
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384. Drakoen 10:21 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Model Plots.
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385. GBlet 10:25 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
There was a post a couple of days ago showing an ice storm first wk of Nov for the K.C. area, any more info on this situation?
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387. Drakoen 10:26 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
JFV, the consensus is that the system will enter the Caribbean. One way or another...
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389. Drakoen 10:35 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
388. JFV 10:33 PM GMT on October 25, 2007 Hide this comment.
Ok and Then from that point on forth, watch out right drakoen???


watch it regardless.
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390. FloridaScuba 10:38 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
385. GBlet 6:25 PM EDT on October 25, 2007
There was a post a couple of days ago showing an ice storm first wk of Nov for the K.C. area, any more info on this situation?


oooo, i'm from there. that's one BIG reason why i'm now here!
391. Patrap 10:40 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Late October early November has brought many a Bang for the Buck,..will be interesting to see the next week play out with this one.
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392. CaneAddict 10:42 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Good evening folks, Im think a depression will from from 90L Tomorrow at the latest. 90L has done a good job throughout today organizing and consolidating.....Tomorrow by 11 AM if this keeps up i expect a depression to be declared....
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393. GBlet 10:45 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
It was 28 this morning and will be colder tomorrow morning. Anybody up for matercicles?
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394. cchsweatherman 10:46 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Good evening all. Looks like 90L has become better organized throughout the day and convection has persisted for at least the past 24 hours. I have to agree with some people in saying that we will have a TD by tomorrow night.

Forecast track will be very interesting to watch. I have a feeling that South Florida needs to watch this system. Take that statement for what its worth.

Another interesting thing to note is the activity in the NW Caribbean. I have been watching this all day and I think we may have a separate entity develop in this area sometime this weekend. There is obvious rotation although it is mainly in the mid to upper levels.

Comments.
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395. CaribBoy 10:46 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
381. Tropicaldan 18:16 AST le 25 octobre 2007 Hide this comment.
Good evening CaribBoy..

I see you are a neighbour - if you click on my name you will see I have quite a few shots of St Barths taken from my balcony which overlooks Orient Bay in St Martin.

Still raining here by the way - guess its only a matter of time before you get your share.

Dan


Good evening Dan!

Beautiful pics from your balcony ;)

And yes, you were right, the rain has just started and it is becoming HEAVY here in St Barths!!
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396. cantoriesnumber1fan 10:49 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Tazmanian 9:47 PM GMT on October 25, 2007 Hide this comment.
wind shear is too strong overe 90L

Good thing you don't work for the NHC Taz! We'd all be screwed.
397. utilaeastwind 10:50 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
It looks to me like the disturbance at 18.9 83.0 is getting very interesting. The shear is going down and it looks like an LPC wants to form.
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398. ShenValleyFlyFish 10:54 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
Hi Tampa you were right about the rain
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400. JRRP 10:59 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
CARIBBOY HOW IS THE FORCE WIND IN THE ISLAND????????????
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401. HurricaneGeek 11:00 PM GMT on October 25, 2007    
JFV.
I would wait to TD then see. They will have a better handle. Also, I live in WestPalm/LW. But MOST defentialy WATCH WATCH WATCH!!! also make sure u have everything NOW so it wont be a rush when it comes....IF it comes. No one knows yet
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