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Alma dies without causing a major disaster; tornadoes rip Midwest
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:03 PM GMT on May 30, 2008 +1
Tropical Storm Alma has dissipated over the high mountains of Honduras, and thankfully did not dump enough rain to cause a major flooding disaster in Central America. At 3pm EDT yesterday, Alma became the first tropical storm since records began in 1949 to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Central America. All previous Eastern Pacific storms have hit Mexico, which is considered part of North America. Alma came ashore in Nicaragua, near the Honduras border, as a tropical storm with 65 mph winds. So far, one person has been killed in Nicaragua, due to a fallen power cable. However, Alma has not dumped enough rain to cause widespread flooding--rainfall amounts in Nicaragua the past two day have been 3-8 inches. Costa Rica has had rains of similar magnitude, which have caused isolated mudslides that have blocked roads. Additional rain from Alma's remnants should total less than two inches in Costa Rica and four inches in Nicaragua. However, Honduras, El Salvador, Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula are likely to get 4-8 inches of rain over the next two days from this system, which could cause significant flooding and mud slides.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Alma's remnants.

There is a large area of disturbed weather that has developed in the Western Caribbean between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula in the past few hours, in association with a trough of low pressure extending from the center of Alma. This morning's 7:37am EDT QuikSCAT pass showed winds of up to 50 knots (58 mph) in this region, but no hint of a circulation or wind shift. It is possible that this disturbed area could start to develop on its own later today, as a westward-moving tropical wave currently near Jamaica interacts with it. This area should expand and spread into Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan by Saturday. However, I'm not expecting a major flooding disaster with heavy loss of life anywhere in Central America from Alma's remnants. The GFS model is predicting that moisture from Alma will eventually work its way north and bring heavy rains to Florida by June 7. No models are predicting a tropical storm in the Atlantic during the coming week.


Figure 2. Doppler radar winds from the Kearney, Nebraska tornadoes of May 29, 2008. Note that a twin set of vorticies appears in this image, denoting that two adjacent tornadoes may have hit.

Tornadoes rip the Midwest again Thursday; tornadoes expected today in Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri
Numerous strong tornadoes raked the Midwest last night, adding to the extensive damage already wreaked by one of the worst months of tornado damage in U.S. history. Last night's most significant destruction occurred in Jewell, Kansas, and Kearney, Nebraska. In Jewell, numerous businesses were destroyed and the town water tower toppled. In Kearney, multiple twisters hit, and a 90-car train was knocked off of its tracks. Wunderblogger Mike Theiss caught up to the Kearney tornado, and describes his experience in his blog today. All told, there were 55 tornado reports Thursday, but no deaths or injuries.

The Storm Prediction Center is calling for a "Moderate" risk of severe weather across Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri this afternoon---one level below their "High" risk level that was posted yesterday. Expect another significant tornado outbreak today. The Weather Underground Severe Weather page and Tornado page are good places to go to follow the severe weather. Also, tune in to the chase accounts and awesome storm photos from Wunderblogger Mike Theiss. Mike is in Tornado Alley this week, performing his annual chase efforts.

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551. severstorm 12:51 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
549. DITTO
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552. Stormchaser2007 12:52 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Well Im gone see yall later!! Keep on watchin that blob so It dosent develop! See yall tomorrow.
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553. JLPR 12:52 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
just use your ignore list =P
or simply ignore like I do =) any comment you dislike =)
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554. hurricane23 12:53 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
This blog has come a long way from 3 years back.
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555. Stormchaser2007 12:53 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Hmmm its rather quiet now since I exercised my IGNORE button.....I like it!!
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556. catastropheadjuster 12:54 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Stormyeyes you don't know what I lose and don't act like you know it all. I don't get on here and complain and have my feelings on my shoulder.
Would you like a little cheese with the wine?
Sheri
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557. nrtiwlnvragn 12:54 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
We may see many runs on this system as an invest. The 48 and 72 hour surface maps have it stationary in the lower BOC.

Corrected to 48 and 72
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558. JLPR 12:54 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
well I am almost a year old here and even thought the trolls are annoying I like this blog =)
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559. Stormchaser2007 12:55 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
554. Yeah I joined in April 06 and back then none of this stuff went on as I can remember....
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560. DocBen 12:55 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
An observation about Arthur bin Alma: It seems that the thing sort of jumper Central America even with all its mountains. Now I notice some flaring up on the NW coast of the Yucatan in the BOC. Might this thing muddle its way across into the BOC and then get interesting? There aren't any mountains this time.
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561. HadesGodWyvern 12:55 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
90LINVEST.30kts-1005mb-169N-875W

I've seen some invests in the Atlantic with 30kts and the NHC never upgraded to tropical depression
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562. JLPR 12:56 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
I joined in July when troll and tropical activity was picking up =P
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563. Skyepony (Mod) 12:57 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Last of the sun on the RGB. Looks like it may make landfall around Belize probibly by morning, perhaps as a tropical storm.
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564. Drakoen 12:57 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
557. nrtiwlnvragn 12:54 AM GMT on May 31, 2008
We may see many runs on this system as an invest. The 24 and 48 hour surface maps have it stationary in the lower BOC.


The 72 hr keeps it in the BOC as well. It will need to gain some latitude.
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566. Stormchaser2007 12:57 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Hades do you think this thing has a chance since Extreme says this thing has 12 hours left?? It looks like a weak TS already.
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568. JLPR 12:59 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
ok just a questions : how fast is it moving?
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569. Skyepony (Mod) 12:59 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
DocBen~ Another showing in the BOC is totally in the realm of possibilities, i'd say top of the list.
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571. atmoaggie 1:00 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
so if you didn't
lose a family member you don't know how
it feels...


Well, I do. Also, my 78-yr-old grandmother had to be hauled out of a window in Slidell and go to a 2-story and hang out in the heat for 5-days. But you know what? I am not looking for a reason to post a lot of blogs. I don't have your zeal for seeing my many handles posted many times over.

Extreme's comment was not offensive...it was funny. And the notion that a cat 5 will someday hit NOLA is absolutely correct.

You are hitting the ignore, too, which is amazing for me as I only had 1 name on there. You 3 or 4 need all agree on a blog where your tude might be appreciated...shouldn't be too hard to figure out in a single skull.
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572. stormyeyes 1:00 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
556....I was not just talking about my family,
there are lots of people that were affected by
katrina and their statements were out of line.
Sorry if you don't understand...I am only here
to learn about the storms and not childish statements from grown people with no feelings
for others.
573. moonlightcowboy 1:01 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Nice looking spin coming together at the last visibles of the day. LOOP
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574. JLPR 1:01 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
also are the steering winds weak?
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575. Tazmanian 1:02 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
WONT41 KNHC 302348
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI MAY 30 2008

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS OF FORMER
EASTERN PACIFIC TROPICAL STORM ALMA...IS CENTERED OVER THE GULF OF
HONDURAS ABOUT 50 MILES EAST OF THE COAST OF BELIZE. DEVELOPMENT
OF THIS SYSTEM APPEARS UNLIKELY DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS IT
MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE SOUTHERN
YUCATAN PENINSULA. NEVERTHELESS...LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINS AND FLOODS
ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS OVER PORTIONS OF
HONDURAS...EL SALVADOR...GUATELAMALA...BELIZE...AND SOUTHEASTERN
MEXICO. FUTURE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENTS WILL BE ISSUED ON
THIS SYSTEM AS NECESSARY. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR
AREA...PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS FROM YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE
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576. severstorm 1:03 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
st2007,jlrp i joined early 2005 was a great blog then and still is if ya just ignor the crap lots of great information to be seen here.
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577. HadesGodWyvern 1:02 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
The NRL best track on the system has it barely moving, it might develop.

it moved a little north since 2245 UTC
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578. amd 1:04 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
the navy website is showing winds for 90L at 30 kts or 35 mph.

Any significant increase in convection around the center of 90L, and this invest could become a td or ts before hitting Belize.

Saying that, this system is so diffuse that it will probably run out of time to organize into a td or ts before it makes landfall.
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579. HurricaneKing 1:05 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
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580. JLPR 1:08 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
well if the system just sits there for awhile it may have a chance to develop into something before moving w towards land. who knows there is never a no in meteorology with lots of maybe =)

and yes severstorm this blog is very informative excluding all the cr&%p, the little I know about weather I have learned it here with: drak, storm, weather456, Adrian, JP, extreme and many others =) O and taz cant forget taz =)
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581. Drakoen 1:08 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
567. jphurricane2006 12:57 AM GMT on May 31, 2008
organization is not there yet

or persistence

Persistence I can understand but the organization is there. There already number reports south of the circulation center reporting westerly winds indicating a closed surface low. Also the system already has a high pressure outflow aloft. Also microwave imagery shows bands of organized convection.
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582. Tazmanian 1:08 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
90L came out of no where
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583. atmoaggie 1:09 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
I see you guys talking about the missing QuikSCAT data. If it were current anywhere, it would be here NASA/JPL ftp site, and it is not.

Last update yesterday. I hope the old satellite did not finally die (it is 7 years beyond design life). That would be bad news for anyone hoping for a skillful TC model run.

This is partly what got Max Mayfield canned. He knew it was that old and that a replacement was not high on NOAA's or anyone's budget priority list, but he might have been a little too vocal about it.
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585. Cavin Rawlins 1:10 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
I was looking forward to 2008 hurricane season but with all this going on the blog....its just is becoming no fun. But I think its pathetic how some people go through so much trouble to bring down others, create other handles to appraise themselves and force their opinion on others. I'm just gonna hang on the down-low.
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586. TexasGulf 1:12 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
So far this season, the GFDL appears to be the most accurate computer model. It correctly projected T.S. Alma moving to eastward, emerging into the Carribean briefly, then moving back to the west over land.

The other models had similar trends, but were way off on position.
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587. Tazmanian 1:12 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
why do you think we have the Ignore on here ???


that will be put in a vary good ues this year
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588. HadesGodWyvern 1:12 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
its coming together but it may run out of time, the NHC may not find any point to make it a TD or TS for one advisory

shame for them.. the JTWC does it all the time lol

one advisory and its extratropical before the next six hours XD
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589. Drakoen 1:13 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
584. jphurricane2006 1:09 AM GMT on May 31, 2008
its still broad and diffuse

its coming together but it may run out of time, the NHC may not find any point to make it a TD or TS for one advisory


I agree with that. Just something to monitor tropics wise lol. Its either this or bickering though over the past few days there has been a blend of both.
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590. stormkat 1:13 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
jp you finally agree with me...the blob does not have a closed circulation and it will die in the mountains....stormkat
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592. Skyepony (Mod) 1:15 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
aggie~ that would be Bill Proenza, not Max. I swear sometimes it's just black outs. 2006 about anything started near land quikscat & the buoys page would go down.

JP~ I'd say maybe TS. The bigger the hot towers get over the BOC ~ less the chance but it's also night so convection could get heavy. Where's the MJO?
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595. nrtiwlnvragn 1:17 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Central Region Headquarters is haveing problems with their web server. I saw somewhere that QUICKAT data went through Denver. Maybe that is the problem.

000
NOUS73 KBCQ 302006
ADMCRH

FROM: CRH
TO: ALL CR WFOS/RFCS
SUBJECT: CR WEB ISSUES

***** PLEASE SHARE WITH THE STAFF ***

CRH IS EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR WEB SERVERS. THEY ARE
CURRENTLY TROUBLESHOOTING
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596. atmoaggie 1:18 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
Another thought about 90 L. Some number of years ago, and do not mean many, NHC would not even consider making this a TD or TS (even if it were to have another 12 to 24 hours to landfall). That is exactly why we cannot use historical TC records for seeking out a trend showing anything of value.

Look up some of Chris Landsea's recent work. He makes a very good case is this.
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597. HadesGodWyvern 1:19 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
MJO should over EPAC/ATL last I looked
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599. Drakoen 1:20 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
585. Weather456 1:10 AM GMT on May 31, 2008
I was looking forward to 2008 hurricane season but with all this going on the blog....its just is becoming no fun. But I think its pathetic how some people go through so much trouble to bring down others, create other handles to appraise themselves and force their opinion on others. I'm just gonna hang on the down-low.


I agree. Really such a disappointment with the 6 year olds running the blog. I'm thinking about going to someone else's blog for this season.
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600. atmoaggie 1:21 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
aggie~ that would be Bill Proenza, not Max

Dang, busted. Knew I should have checked. I am so bad with names.
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601. moonlightcowboy 1:22 AM GMT on May 31, 2008    
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